I am starting a study group for people who are aiming over 170s.

We would be taking 2 to 3 prep tests every week.

Ideally, I would want about max 6 people in the group and those who have been scoring around mid 160s.

If anyone is interested, please comment down below.

Hi,

For the tags in the logic games section on the drilling page, there's one for 'grouping with sequencing' and one for 'sequencing with grouping'. Does anyone know the difference between the two?

If there is a difference, then should I do SeqGrp games whilst I'm target drilling GrpSeq/InoSeq games as well?

Thanks!

Any tips for timing yourself on RC section? RC is always hit or miss for me depending on the difficulty of the passage. Sometimes I have to read sentences a few times to really understand them and then I short myself on time for the other passages leaving me either 1) completely guessing at the end or 2) quickly reading the passage and not fully understanding it therefore, getting questions wrong anyway.

Hey all was reviewing some MC conclusion questions and stumbled upon 2 structurally similar stimuli in exam PT 85 S2 10 and PT 73 S4 11. At a glance they are near identical with a claim endorsed by the author, followed by an opponent view which is then rebutted by the author. I find it hard to distinguish how the MC in 73 would be the rebbutle versus how 85 would say the MC is the original claim up top.

I feel like the answer and difference to this question has to do with how in 85 all premises and such would link back to the first sentence as the main conclusion whereas in 73, the first sentence is unsupported as nothing suggests that the company will develop weaknesses. However, it's kind of challenging to internalize that difference, everyway I view one of them I could easily apply to the other. Wonder what the rest of you guys think.

I don't understand why B is the right answer. I chose E. Could someone #help me?

So here is the sentence:

All men and women are merely players.

I know it should translate as: men and women➡️ merely players.

And the contrapositive should be: /MP ➡️/men or /women.

But why it shouldn't be translated separately? In this sentence, "men and women" is not some kind of combination, I think they are separate conditions. You don't need to be men and women at the same time to be merely players. Just being men or women can activate the sufficient condition. I mean the "and"here, is actually an exclusive OR.

So I think it should diagram as: men or women ➡️ merely players.

And the contrapositive should be: /MP ➡️/men and /women.

If you find me made any silly mistake, please point it out. I am really confused right now. Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone! I have been reading quite a few posts about difficulties with proctors. I was wondering if anyone had any advice to make sure things go smoothly on test day. I know every second of this test counts, and I would hate to lose precious time because of a miscommunication with a proctor. Thanks in advance!

Are we able to use the Ctrl-F find tool on the Sept 2022 LSAT? I just want to make sure no rules have changed.

For PrepTest February 1997 - Section 3 - Question 25, what is the difference between C and D and what makes D correct? Super confused

What works best for blind reviewing logic games?

Just wanted to hear how the august re-testers feel about the test!

I had 2 LR and found the 1st was much easier so hopefully that one is the real one

I found RC to be very challenging and the last logic game was very confusing

Normally I only get around 1-2 LG wrong but that last question probably bumped that up to about 4-5

Any one else feel the same?

So, I'm having a hard time with LR averaging -5 through -10 every section even after BR. My main problem is that the question types that I'm getting wrong seem to be scattered all over the place. It's not just like weakening and assumptions, for example, but rather a little bit of everything that I'm getting wrong. So now I'm not sure how to proceed. Should I just continue drilling LR sections for practice or should I take a step back and continue learning about the fundamentals of all LR questions before more drills? (Currently reading The Loophole in LR & PowerScore LR Bible but not finished with either).

Hello, can someone please explain how answer choice C supports the conclusion and how D does not?

I chose (E) as my answer because "Selfish individualism" which was suggested as a menace to the integrity of society is not necessarily equivalent to the concept of selfishness, a fundamental motivator of human actions throughout the history (at least in this passage). There is a missing link which remains unexplained to bridge the gap between these two. I thought it was a snake-oil seller tactic switching terms in the vicinity with no proper justification. (A) is improper as there would have been no reason to defy the relevance of that argument in this passage iff he/she had offered us a coherent concept of excessive self-interest. Instead of reducing one of the social ills that epitomized the decade to "Selfish individualism", the author could have said "selfishness". Then, the whole passage can adhere to one particular theme with congruity. (B) is not germane to the argument because no numeric data is demanded whose absence can dismantle the validity of the argument entirely. It could undermine or weaken its cogency at best. (C) is the opposite of the argument. The writer perceives it as a chronic condition ailing our humanity from Day one. (D) is a nut job since we do not need to look into the case of other species to beef up the case against our unconditional/uncalculating benevolence. If humans are born to be driven by their own lust and lucre as part of basic instincts, then any author should channel all of one's efforts to cull out instances related to that hypothesis. The rest would be a dog-and-pony show. Thus, I opted for (E) as my final answer choice. According to the first half of the passage, the innate desire of humans to reveal their true blood even at the cost of damaging others was a culprit putting our society's harmony in jeopardy in the 1980s. Then, the second half of it has a different selling pitch: selfishness in the human history. This ever-lasting character lets him/her question the nature of good will by mankind in general. What I failed to see was the connection between them. What do you think about this? Do you mind sharing the rationale behind ur decision?

During the problem set, this game really stumped me, because it doesn't use any typical gameboard setup and I had a really hard time finding an effective way to successfully visualize and toggle all the variables. JY's explanation (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-1-game-4/) had an okay game setup, but I still didn't like how it didn't represent the 2 vs 3-day possibilities or the distribution of the tasks over the days.

While I did only mediocre during my timed take of this game, during blind review I went back to the beginning and brainstormed ways to set up the board to fully and effectively represent all the variables, and I came up with this: (not sure the imgur embed is working so pls copy and paste this link into your browser) www.imgur.com/a/DKBdjxB https://imgur.com/a/DKBdjxB

This setup accounts for all possible gameboards (since the boards are determined by the Day and Task divisions) and there are only 5 (I realized the 5th possibility after I made the imgur link and cant be bothered to do it again, but it's a Day 1: FWT, Day 2: S, Day 3: P gameboard). I wrote the possible Crew Members next to each task in subscript, and kept rule 3b (Max 1 task/CM/Day) HEAVILY in mind. With this visualization of the game, the questions don't take much time at all!

For Q'S 19 and 21, I went down my second column and eliminated any answers that didn't have either I or K, then elim any without L or O, then any without L or G, etc. Made these Q's way faster than when I did the set timed, and with this info setup these questions took only 20-30 seconds each.

For the other 3 questions, you have to kind of blunt force them, but because you have all possible game boards you can kind of blunt force them in your head if you choose. This is where you want to keep rule 3b heavily in your mind, but be aware it can get jumbled in your head bc you're trying to track so many things.

Just wanted to share my game board set up because it made this game a thousand times easier, and I hope other people can benefit from this.

Hello...I am wanting to start PTs and am nearing the end of the LG curriculum. Toward the end, I am struggling with the games. I have made a pile of the games I am really lost on. Before I start PTs, should I BRUTE FORCE understanding on all of the games in my pile? Or start PTs and brute force one game a day while PTing? I haven't taken a diagnostic and have been studying since March/April. #help

Hi! I’m having a bit of trouble approaching my method of review w this section of the LSAT. I’ve been going through the curriculum and doing all the practice sets each section provides. I cant help but think that the best way to approach testing myself it to do drills repeatedly with with specific question types but I remember the advice they gave us saying that we should not exhaust all our study resources too quickly AND to not do one question type over and over again… does anyone have any advice on how to approach improving each question type?

I've gotten good at getting -0 or -1 in LG unless I run into one of the really old misc games. Does anyone think it is worth my time to review them? Every time I go to watch an explanation video, J.Y. says something along the lines of "I don't think you'll see this on a modern LSAT," which is really discouraging me from putting in more work to get them down. Thoughts? Is anyone else running into this issue?

Hello.....I've noticed that sometimes questions can purposefully be time sinkers. Does anyone have any tips on how to identify time sinkers that we should skip and come back to? Thank you #help

Hello 7Sage community,

I'm in the process of gearing up for Oct. LSAT and I wanted to bring to your attention June '22 LSAT LG specifically.

I'll get straight to the point: Did anyone find the LG section unusually hard?

I mean I went through the games in pt.1-92 three times before taking the test but I still answered barely 5 questions in total probably. There could be many reasons why I did so poorly on the section but one thing for sure that I felt while attempting the games was that on 3/4 games, I didn't know how to set up the game- They seemed

nothing like the ones I had tried except for the circular game which I ran out of time on.

If anyone did well on June LG can you share your tips?

It'll be much appreciated! Please help 🙏

Ahh, ok- so some popcorn takes longer than 3 minutes, I get it now. I think?

I understand in-person study groups may not be recommended by 7sage for different reasons.

In my humble opinion there is nothing like in-person college-like cramming where different people may come together and assist in what others find difficult to comprehend & vice-versa.

I was wondering if there are any in-person study groups near SouthbBay area in a public, quiet place (I.E. a Library's study room). If not, would there be people willing to participate in one?Alternatively a Zoom Group would be good enough. LMK!

I have created a survey to get something concrete going on person or through ZOOM, as I've not been contacted by authors of other discussions. Feel Free to Complete Interested, since I haven't been contacted -I've done a survey for those interested. If so feel free to complete so that there's something concrete going. https://forms.gle/kZLjU8VVny6Nrv4w7

I am currently in the midst of a cold streak with logical reasoning. I understand the steps 7Sage has prescribed and attempt to review them, but every practice set and blind review leaves me feeling frustrated and with no progress whatsoever.

I was wondering if any of you have found a method to take a step back from Logical Reasoning and reevaluating your methods and have seen improvement. No amount of blind review or practice questions seems to be yielding a positive gain in my abilities. Thanks!

Okay, can somebody please explain how B is correct. I understand why it is on some level, and why the others are wrong, partially because what all of the wrong answers have in common is basically that the new calendar doesn’t mess with their schedule, but it still isn’t fully clicking to me why B is 100% objectively correct. After reading through the stimulus many times, I still don’t understand the implications of the days before January 1st mixing up so that the group in AC B will eventually run into problems. I’m just really confused. Thanks a lot in advance.

Does anyone know when we are supposed to receive the email for choosing our test date, and if that email will have an option to select our test time as well? I believe the email is supposed to come from ProctorU.

I am also wondering if we will need to download any software before the test date - I assume the email will have more detailed instructions. Thanks, and good luck to all taking the September LSAT!