can't believe it, i felt like the flex went horribly and i considered cancelling every day.

thank you 7sage (3 good luck to everyone in july/aug, you guys are going to kill it!!(/p)

Hello All,

I have received my score, 149. This was my third time taking it. The first and second time I have no previous studying. For the third take I took the course and took about 6/7 months to study. I was scoring 164/165 on the newest PT's. However, on test day everything crashed and burned and received a score 20 points below my PT average. I freaked out on LG, which ironically was my strong suit and bombed that section. I was wondering if it would be wise to re take the LSAT in August and figure out what went wrong (I had test anxiety) and try to bring up my score on actual test day. If so, this would be my fourth time taking it. I am wanting to apply to Fall 21 or maybe Spring 21 depending where I would be able to go. Going to law school is my dream but I am not a good test taker. 7Sage is such a big and understanding community and I really would appreciate it, if y'all could give me some insight.

Thank you

I wanted to share a resource which has helped me and a few others gain a better understanding of logical reasoning. The Wireless Philosophy Youtube channel has a 35 video playlist on what they call Critical Thinking. These videos address what arguments are, fundamental principles of reasoning, and common fallacies. I especially like the fallacy videos because they are a bit outside of the normal "cookie cutter" flaws that we think of but nonetheless are heavily used on LR questions. Many of these fallacies slap a label or term on reasoning patterns that we all know "feel" wrong but can't always articulate.

I did not watch these videos in order. I watched a couple a day to supplement and break up my studies. I think there is much value in thinking about arguments and the LSAT from many perspectives. Hopefully these videos help something click for someone out there!

Here is the Link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtKNX4SfKpzX_bhh4LOEWEGy3pkLmFDmk

So I was setting up the rules for Game/Preptest 44, sec 3 game 3.

Game stem: A tour group plans to visit exactly five archaeological sites. Each site was discovered by exactly one of the following archaeologist - F,G,O and each dates from The 8th,9th, Or 10th century. The tour must satisfy the following conditions:

There was this rule that stated: Exactly one of the sites was discovered by Gallagher, and it dates from the tenth century.

2)How do I know G and 10 are not a Block, I’m sure many people create it as a false block. What modifier in the statement let’s me know it’s conditional ?!?

3)when it does state “exactly”- is it implying that G is in the game ONLY once Since the game stem isn’t requiring all variables to be present, but that ALL sites be occupied by once the archeologist and when G is Summoned it’s carrying the century Variable with it ?

Scored in the 98th percentile on June Flex thanks to JY and 7sage!

HI everyone! First post on here. I found out this morning that I scored significantly lower on my June LSAT-Flex than my PT average. Just signed up for 7Sage Ultimate+ to keep practicing, but I am feeling SO discouraged. What I thought would be my safety schools are now barely target schools. I am scheduled to retake in August - I know this is a quick turn around, but I want the option to apply early. Does anyone have advice for improving my score and/or getting my confidence back up?

Just took my first LSAT in June and received a 170. I had been consistently scoring 172s on practice tests and sometimes hitting 174. Timing was never an issue for me and I usually scored -0 on LG. Any advice for retaking it in August? Do you recommend redoing the curriculum or just sticking to taking practice tests?

Hi everyone, I really want to improve my LR score, so I am currently working through the Loophole book. I'm trying to learn how to do CLIR-ing properly, but I'm not sure if the loopholes I am finding for argument stimulus-types are correct. Does anyone have any tips for dealing with this/or any insight on how this strategy helped them improve in LR? Thank you so much in advance!!

Hello, I have been struggling with necessary assumptions for a surprisingly unnecessary amount of time and still I cannot totally understand the concept as I have received seemingly conflicting methods to solve this question stem. Let me start with a simple question: if You negate a statement, and that statement makes the conclusion MUST BE FALSE, then that statement before its negated is the necessary assumption? If a statement is negated and the conclusion is COULD BE FALSE, then the statement before it was negated has no bearing on the argument and is not a necessary assumption? I really need help strengthening my firm understanding of this concept because it has been hit or miss for me. I sometimes would get most of them right in a PT and get most of them wrong in another PT, 50-50 right in another PT. Please help

Is the correct negation for (B), “The leopard magpie moth does have the speed or agility to escape from SOME of its predators”? And if so, does this hinge on the fact that it contains the word “any”, which is treated like “all”, and therefore negated as “some is not”, and the added “not” creates a double negative which turns “does not” into “does”? If this is the case, I would like to know if this is a hard-and-fast rule we can apply every time we see the words “any”, “all”, “every”, “some”, or “most” anywhere in the answer choice of a necessary assumption question. I usually don’t have trouble negating these words when they are at the beginning of the sentence, as in “all swans are white”, but I had never negated an answer choice in this way when the quantifier was in the middle of the sentence. Consequently, like others, I thought the negation for this was “the leopard magpie moth does have the speed or agility to escape from ANY of its predators, which in my eyes, does undermine the argument. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Same with this one question like before...

A park contains at most five of seven kinds of trees- firs, laurels, maples, oaks ,pines, spruces, and yews - consistent with the following conditions.

If maples are in the park,yews are not

if firs are in the park,pines are not

if yews are not in the park, then either laurels or oaks but not both, are in the park if it is not the case that the park contains both laurels and oaks, then it contains fir and spruces.

If the firs are not in the park, then which one of the following must be true.

A) Maples are not in the park

B ) Spruces are not in the park

C) Yews are not in the park

D) Pines are in the park

E) Spruces are in the park

i understand why A would be the right answer, however, can't D be true because if firs are not in the park then pines must be in the park as well..? The contapostive. why isnt the answer D

Okay so I understand the question just confused because two answers seem right to me! Maybe this will help someone with practices well?

Zeno's unfunished Furniture sells exactly four types of Furniture - Footstools, hutches, sideboards,tables,and vanities. Irene buys just four items, each of a different type, and each made of entirely of one kind of wood. Maple, Oak, Pine, or Rosewood. The following conditions govern Irene's Purchase.

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4.if Irene buys a footstoll, she also buys a table made of the same wood.

5.Irene does not buy an oak tree

6.Exactly two of the items sge buys are made of the same kind of wood.

If Irene does not buy an intem made of maple, then each of the following must be true EXCEPT

A. Irene buys a footstool

B. Irene buys a pine hutch

C. Irene buys a rosewood sideboard

D.Irene buys exactly one item made of oak

E. Irene buys exactly two items made of pine.

I thought the answer was D not B because if she doesnt buy an item that is made of maple then she cant but a vanity which means she buys a footstool and if she buys a footsool then she buys a table made of the same wood..right? so that means if she buys one that is one type of wood then the other needs to be made of the same type of wood and the table cant be oak so that means she can't buy the footstool and table becaue its the same wood so wouldnt that make D false? Since they have to be the same?

Hello Community,

I'm drilling SA questions (because I suck at them) and I came across this "gem" that really shook what little confidence I DO have on these question types.

I picked out the conclusion and premise with no trouble but then when I went into the answer choices, I was thoroughly confused. I scratched off B early on as it's restating a premise and conclusion we already have, but this turns out to be the right answer. I thought this was a trap and was sure it couldn't be right, but nothing else looked good either. Can anyone give me some insight as to what the heck I'm missing? Is it just because of the matching conditional structure? Any help and explanations (super dumbed-down for this old lady) would be greatly appreciated!

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I have been studying my butt off for LG, but I cannot for the life of me break 14/2x when I PT. I only have 2 months left to study, starting to feel hopeless. Any tips other than the repetition one? Cause that is not working for me (obviously haha). Please help!

I set up my time zone in GMT+8, but the time slots were still shown in CST. Did anyone experience the same problem? For sure I can calculate the time difference by myself, but the email that the LSAC sent me says the test date available to me is 4am-5pm on 7/17 (ET). But I was able to pick 8:30pm CST on the website. I think something must have gone wrong. It makes me anxious. And it seems that the website is not functioning anymore and there is no response from Proctor U support. Did anyone encounter the same problem?

Do we have to change the "temporary password" given by LSAC for ProctorU?

Hi!

I was doing moderately well with the cc until I hit Sufficient Assumption questions. I cannot for the life of me figure them out. I know they are supposed to be freebies but I stare at them without having any idea where even to start mapping out the stimulus. Does anyone have any tips or tricks to really being able to conquer these questions?

Thank you!

Hi everyone! I finally received my first 100% on a timed LG set. Before, I would consistently get 100% under blind review, but was unable to perform under the clock. If anyone is struggling to close the gap between BR and timed LG score, message me. I am willing to tutor someone for free in LGs. My best LG type is In/Out.

What’s everyone think the chances are that October becomes flex?

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, could any of you guys point me to actual LR Preptest questions that have circular reasoning as the flaw? i.e. - any questions that have "presupposes as evidence the conclusion that it is trying to establish." Preferably questions from before Preptest 39 would be really great! Thank you so much.

Hi,

Can you please explain why answer choice D is considered incorrect? I know the correct answer is B, but would like further explanation!

Thank you!

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#help

Whenever we are given [P→C] argument. I tend to see [C→P] as a correct strenthening answer choice. I understand that such answer choices try to a create connection between P and C, but isn’t this a negation flaw?

So in almost every PT I've taken, I do better on the first LR section than the second one.

I'm talking 3 wrong answer choices in LR1, and like 6-8 wrong answers on LR2.

is LR2 harder, am I just burnt out by section 3, or am I just insane?

I have an incredibly difficult time understanding a stimulus that is science-based or involves numbers. I found that PT5.S1.Q12 gave me an incredibly hard time due to not understanding the stimulus. I ended up having to draw out pictures, to truly understand what the stimulus was saying (https://ibb.co/5GKKtHY). Once I drew it out I was able to figure it out. Under timed conditions, I know that I would not have had time to draw it all out.

I am wondering if anyone else has had trouble with quickly understanding a science/number-based stimulus, and if so what you all have found to be the most successful way to overcome this?

Thanks in advance!

Why was the answer C, instead of B?