I don't remember seeing Eval in the CC and can't find it either in the CC. JY explains 'toggling' for the ACs on PT 79.1.17 and I have no idea what he means by this. I am assuming he means looking for a vacillation between strengthen and weaken per AC? Not sure how to approach this Q-type.

Can someone let me know where I can get some study material on evaluate the argument as I read they are more common on the recent LSATs.

Thanks.

Hi, everyone. I am taking the LSAT-Flex on August 29th, and I was wondering if anyone has any tips for how to improve on LR fast. I have made great strides in LG, but it seems like I am getting worse scores on LR now that I am better at LG. Any tips/advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

looking for advise on this:

LG isn't a problem for me considering I usually average -0~-4.

RC is an issue since it fluctuates, but there's only so much I can do for that aside from reading more and working on the CC recs.

LR is an issue. A big one. I'm averaging -10~-14 on average and I can't bring it down. My best score is a 161 on PT 70 with -8 which is great (RC was -10)...but I can't break back into the single digits for LR. I'm not saying that score isn't good considering I started in May with a 141 diagnostic, but I'm aiming for 165+...so: aside from just drilling LRs (which I'm doing right now with PSets and LSAT Demon), what's another approach? Is it just going to click one day?

Looking for some wisdom on this~

My LR score has been fairly consistent in the 60s and 70s. I thought I improved from going -5 to getting between -1 and -3 on LR sections.

But I recently took PT 82 and scored -7 on an LR section. I'm taking the August LSAT and obviously this is kinda freaking me out.

The language seems more convoluted and I find that the arguments harder to understand.

Has anyone else experienced this and if so, how did you deal with it?

Hey everyone! I was wondering what you guys are doing about misc games for the LSAT flex? I'm not sure how much time I should spend on fool proofing them... would love some opinions/how you guys are approaching this! I don't want to waste my time on these if there's a very small chance of them appearing but I also don't want to be caught off guard. And worst case scenario, there won't be more than on misc game at a time right?

I'm not sure how easy it is to write a low res summary on the tablet? or if we'd do that on the scratch paper?

Hi,

Majority, if not all, of my misses on LR come from the backend of the section: 17-25. Does anyone have any advice to get over this hump?

I studied full time for three months and scored 160 after a PT Avg of 167 and BR 171. The official score was just a point above my diagnostic. I really believe I can break 170, but this is pretty disappointing. Should I re-take in October or November?

For this question, I believed that answer D was the correct choice. I reviewed this question three times and cannot understand how E, "Many people in the US regard the social responsibility of big business as extending beyond providing consumers with fairly priced goods and services" is the correct answer choice?

#help please!

Does anyone find any substantial benefit of reading just passage A first and immediately going into the questions before reading passage B? I have adopted that strategy, but I sometimes feel like I'm just wasting more time having to go through the questions twice than I would otherwise. I know it's different for everyone and we all have our preferences, but is there any general consensus on which strategy works best for most people?

Hello!

I've gotten fully immersed into most of the LR lessons and have been working through problem sets for practice. I'm finding it challenging to identify when to use lawgic (ie. when it will be helpful vs when it's not really a great use of time). For example, the MBF question, I did not use lawgic to identify the correct answer choice. It probably would have taken me much longer to work through using lawgic, whereas I identified the AC in like 30 sec without it. So, I'm wondering if anyone else is struggling with when to use lawgic in questions, or if anyone has any suggestions or strategies they use when reading questions that they can quickly interpret whether using "lawgic" will be helpful vs not helpful?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/reproduction-without-sperm-mbf-question/

Also, another lawgic question: In the MBT question below, the lawgic threw me off with the second sentence. When I watched JY's explanation, he says the "whether or not..." sentence is irrelevant and therefore we don't need to pay attention to it. I feel like I'm missing something about lawgic, because I couldn't determine what to do with that sentence. Because it threw me off when I was trying to sort out the lawgic, it took me a good 5 minutes to solve without it. Is there a way to know confidently which sentences to eliminate and which are important to keep when solving these question types using lawgic? Or does it just come with practice?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/horrific-monsters-mbt-question/

I have been consistently writing down explanations of LR questions I got incorrect (and many I got correct) in an attempt to improve my speed and understanding. I’ve been working on this for a over month, and I just cannot seem to finish a section on time with accuracy. I almost always score -4 going 5 minutes over time (working through the 50’s and 60’s PT sets). Ideally, I would like to be scoring -2 with a few minutes to spare, and I’m concerned that I won’t be able to get there in time for the October LSAT. Any tips or advice would be highly appreciated 😔

Hey guys!

So I have been studying for awhile and have seen increased scores/improvement with my RC and LG sections. However, I don't know what it is about LR, but I just can't seem to do well on those sections :( I literally always get -10 on every LR section I do without fail (it is definitely my worst section), and I don't know why I feel like something just isn't clicking. I really want to get down to -5 before the October exam. If anyone who does consistently well in LR is willing to work with me or also needs help/wants to figure this out together, hit me up! I'm getting a little discouraged, but I wanted to try this forum out to get my motivation back up haha

Thanks for helping ya girl out 😊 🙏

I’m taking the October Flex and I have a hard time on RC on the computer reading on the screen and not being able to write any notes on the passage. I currently am practicing on the Problem Sets which I printed out and am doing much better than I have done on RC sections on practice tests. Is this a good sign that I’m getting better, or would it be more beneficial if I practiced on the computer since that’s how the test will be?

Hey fellow 7sagers,

Does anyone know whats the mastery lesson JY is alluding to in this video explanation: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-4-question-20/

I'd be very curious to know how we can go from:

/P ---> B C to /P + B ----> C

Cheers,

KTC

hello -- looking for someone to consistently BR with me a few times a week. Maybe 3-4 times. I'm aiming for a 172+ and currently scoring in the160s. Pls reply or DM if interested!

So I took the July LSAT and did not do well...like 4 points before my average not well. I am signed up for the August LSAT and I’ve seen a decline in my scores over the past 2 weeks. I know this is all in my head and related to seeing that bad score, so I’m looking for advice on how to overcome this and possibly a tutor to work with in the next week to help with confidence, especially in reading comp. Anything is helpful. Thanks!

I keep on seeing a trend for myself that I keep on getting inference questions specifically the MSS ones wrong. I think my first issue is that while I identify its an inference I don't realize its MSS and lean towards more of a MBT questions. Anyone have any advice on how to identify and approach these questions? Thanks!

Can someone draw the diagram for this?

LR has been one of the hardest sections for me to get a solid understanding of. I went back through the CC and redid all the lessons on conditional logic and it helped immensely. Since then, I have been going back through the different question types in the order of the CC syllabus. I have printed out problem sets by question type from PTs1-35. I do try to add variety to my problem sets. For example, I'll do 10 strengthening, 10 MBT, 10 SA , 5 SA, and 5 MSS on one day. I have been doing all these problem sets untimed. I will spend as much time as needed to answer the question. Once I am 100% confident, I will go ahead and check the answer. If I get it wrong, I write out a detailed response on why I got it incorrect. I have found that my accuracy and speed have started to get better with 1,2, and 3 star questions. However, the 4 and 5 star questions take me a long time. I can spend upward of ten minutes on a single 4/5 star question. I have found that the language of the stimulus for a 4/5 question is incredibly convoluted. At this stage, should I drill 4/5 star questions? How do you get better with these harder questions? For those who have done untimed drills, at what point did you start to incorporate time? Finally, how would do you determine whether or not you're ready to drill full LR sections?

Thanks in advance!

I need help, LR in the 80's absolutely destroying me. I have gone from averaging -4 to -8 and I really don't know what to do. cn anybody help

Can anyone help me with translating this statement into a conditional?

"The purpose of art is to cause experts to debate ideas"

JY (and the world) translated it as: "cause debate" --> "purpose of art"

I translated this as: "purpose of art" --> "cause debate"

My rationale was from experience with translating "is" statements: i.e, cows are cool = cows --> cool; the meaning of life is 42 = the meaning of life --> 42

I understand context matters, but here I thought context still allowed me to read the statement as purpose of art is [X], therefore purpose of art --> X. If my reasoning error is misreading the context, then what parts of the stim leads you to read it as X --> purpose of art? If my reasoning error is logical, please point out my oversight!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-1-question-12/

I was recently granted 50% extra time, and I've been adjusting to the time difference by doing 53-minute-long sections. With LR in particular, I am finding that I am left with a lot of extra time after I finish a section (I usually finish with about 20-23 minutes remaining). This is obviously a huge amount of time on the LSAT, but I feel like I am not using it properly since I am still scoring -4 or -5 on most LR sections. Does anyone have any recommendations on how I should make use of this extra time? Is it worthwhile to go through the entire section again and try to redo it? Or should I just focus on the couple hardest questions in the section?

Hello,

I have been mastering the LR and LG sections but my main issue is with RC ! Can't manage to get less than 9-10 mistakes per section.

I need tips and help please !!!!

I loved that book as an overall guide and as a resource for RC and LR (my strengths) but I have not found its method (skill > memorization) to work for me in LG. I'm consistently running out of time by the third game and sometimes don't even make it to the third. Anyone been in my shoes?

I started with 7Sage like two days ago because I'm desperate to improve my LG and have started doing the 'fool proof' method of just repeating the same games or game sections over and over. Not sure if this will work but I'm giving it a whirl. I signed up for the August LSAT flex and have about two weeks left. My best PT is 161 and my goal is ~168.

Need advice on best ways to improve Logic Games!