Would like to hear some of your approaches to navigating through more difficult logic games. The thing I struggle with the most is knowing the right time to move on from game-board setup to the first question. I find that I'll consistently move on too early to avoid the feeling of lost time and knowing that there's probably an acceptable situation question first sometimes makes me want to move onto the questions prematurely. So basically what I'm wondering if you're stumped by a game should you spend the more of your time on a detailed setup or keep pace and move through the questions for potential inferences.

I am aggressively bad at the reading comprehension. Sometimes I get like a 9/27 on the reading (I know, that's terrible) even when I feel confident. Does anyone have any tips that helped them score better on reading comprehension?

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I'm highly concerned as I did not note shifting in meaning of the word 'anarchy' to be a flaw in this question stem. I am trying to understand why exactly the key word's shift in meaning weakens this argument? I realize that it shifts in the main conclusion when they use it as an example of chaos but how exactly does that make it vulnerable?

My thoughts: if the author shifts in this meaning maybe we can't trust the author in general? ( sorry if that sounds stupid I'm just trying to understand why so I can get inside the LSAT writers heads.(/p)

Thanks to anyone who helps me out!

Would really appreciate an explanation on why E is the correct answer choice. The use of math in the stimuli always kills me:/

Can someone please explain to me how B weakens the argument and not D?

So I'm about halfway through my RC section, when my screen goes completely blank. I'm thinking "what just happened?". I reach out to my proctor -- they say something along the lines of "just reconnect". I refresh the page and it reconnects. I've lost time. I ask my proctor for time back and they shoot back "continue".

I try to collect myself and deal with the situation. A few minutes later, my proctor interrupts me saying they need to take control of my computer to reconnect the video. This takes a while. Once again, time ticks away and I don't get it back. This was my 2nd section. I was absolutely shook. I barely finished on time and had to guess on questions. As you can imagine, the 3rd/next section didn't go so well.

I've already filed a complaint with LSAC. Does anyone know what they usually offer as a remedy? I took the test a while ago (May 2019) and I've been studying for months. Would score preview be on the table despite having taken the regular LSAT before? If push comes to shove, I can take it in January. Obviously not ideal, but I still have plenty of material and PTs. Please advise.

For those of you who've read Ellen Cassidy's The Loophole -- I know that she strongly recommends reading the stimulus and designing the CLIR before reading the question stem, but I personally find that it's a better strategy to read the stem first, as I tend to overanalyze/overlook parts of the stimulus. Also for questions like main point or argument part, I feel like it's a waste of time to be analytical about the argument (not necessarily during blind review but at least under timed conditions) when all you need to do is identify the conclusion/role of a sentence in the stimulus.

Do you guys find value sticking to her advice of reading the stimulus first, or is it okay to use her CLIR method yet read the stem first?

Ive written the LSAT before and scored a 150. I am writing in Jan 2021. Last time i studied, I felt like I knew the concepts decently well. I was pting about 160 and even got up to a 168 at one point. But I was being very lenient with my self on time. Come test day I completley freaked out and my anxiety took over me resulting in a 150.

I am BR-ing at about 160 currently. Its taking me some time to refresh some concepts in my mind but I am not necessarily worried about knowledge. I am looking for some help with strategies to deal with the timing aspect of it and not freaking out. Even when I sit down for practice tests I get super anxious and I can't think straight, let alone get through a test. Any advice would be super helpful! :(

For reference, I reside in Canada and have applied to Canadian law schools. My gpa is solid so I really only need around a 160 to get into the schools of my choice.

LG I would say is my strongest.

LR is decent, average about -7

RC is my worst. I have thought about just doing the three passages and trying to do them well ensuring i get the most possible questions correct and then if theres time remaining make educated guesses on the last passage. I would do this to make sure im doing the passages with the most questions first, and with the assumption that im doing well on my other sections. Do ypu guys think this a good strategy or do you have any other tips?

Any help is greatly appreciated!! :)

I have not gotten an email about it being online yet. When i log into my Official LSAC account, it says that I have a seat reserved at a testing center but they have not determined which one yet. Wouldn't it automatically register me for the Flex if that's what it is?

Hi Guys, I am going through the LSAT trainer and came across diagramming drills using "only if" and I am having a hard time understanding the answers. I would really appreciate it if someone could help explain?

My thought process: this is basically two statements in one (one for "if" and the other for "only if"

A. H will go before J if H is after M: M-H--J

B: H will go before J only if H is after M: I get the same answer as the one above, which means my thought process in interpreting "only if" is probably off. The correct answer is J-H-M but I don't understand how. I know that "only if" statements should result in the opposite diagrams as those of "if" statements, but this is a rule I have only memorized and do not necessarily understand. Please help and thank you in advance!

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We will be using questions from the free diagnostic LSAT test provided on the LSAC website. This session will be helpful for students that recently completed the RC CC, or are in the PT phase of their studies and is struggling with RC questions.

If this session goes well, I'd be open to hosting more free sessions! Please let me know what topics you'd like to discuss at a future session in the poll below. See you there!

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Can "is" be a group 2 indicator like "must"? E.g. X is Y = X->Y

JY seems to treat it as such in 60.1.17

Hello, I have been trying to improve my reading comprehension. Someone recommended reading harder passages for practice. I looked into JSTORE and tried to find articles/papers on law, science and art. Do you guys think this is suffice or does anyone have any recommendation where to look for?

Thank you

Hey everyone, I'm starting to Fool Proof games to really get a better feel for these. Do you suggest I start at 1 and go to 35 that way or should I go by easiest Sequencing, In/Out, Grouping etc. and fool proof by those groups and then work my way up from easiest to hard? I feel like the first way is better but any feedback would be great. Thanks everyone!

Hi everyone, I recently took the lsat flex in November. Based on numerous practice tests I have taken, my intuition is telling me I didn’t achieve the score I had looked for. I’m in a weird position because I have one absence on my record due to an illness on test day. I also took the lsat in June and I got a 153. If I cancel the November flex will it look really bad? Those who I have talked to said things happen in regards to the absence, but I am worried if I cancel this November flex it will look bad on my application. I also believe my score is less than a 153 so I think a lower score would look worse than a cancellation. Some insight would be great. Thanks.

Feeling quiet overwhelmed. I am preparing for the January and Feb LSAT and I cannot for the life of me understand exisential quantifiers and sections after that. I feel like I can't move on without understanding those sections but time is also dwindling down. Should I skip this section for now and work on the LG and RC portion of my syllabus and then revisit?

If you know, you know. I just want to say: fuck this game. I will go back to crying now.

Here and I see it on Spotify too so I assume everywhere else as well.

-8 base! No love for Goya I hear though. Giving it a listen now.

Edit: -7 base... but every RC gave you a point so -8 for everyone. One more point to -9 if you had the Museum/Scholarships games set.

So I tried to do my flex through proctor u yesterday and was not able to write, so they are moving it friday.

Context:

I absolutely hate proctor u. I patiently waited at my desk at 5pm, my exam was at 540pm, and ended up not being able to do my test or fixing any issues at 8. The impression from yesterdays customer service and technical support was actually horrible. This was not because of wait times but because they seemed to not have any organization, their chat people would not responded after 40mins of inactivity trying to “fix my issue” when I checked in if they were there, I was hung up on 3 times, the chat support passed me on around 4 times before being like “okay, lets actually move this dude to tech support”.

Anyways, ya end rant. I was very upset by the whole experience.

I don't understand why the answer to this is not D. It says in the prompt that insectivorous plants can survive in soils that are too low in minerals for non-insectivorous plants. Is the issue the word "different"? Insectivorous can survive in at least 1 more environment, (low in soil minerals) than non-insectivorous. I see why E is the answer but I want to know the reason for eliminating D.

Hi 7Sage!

I have been foolproofing all logic games from PT 1-35 the past 2 months now. I am currently on PT 19 and foolproofing until mastery just like the other logic games. I am doing this because logic games is my weakest section and I continue to take around 15-20 min on a normal game averaging 1 or 2 missed questions. Logic games and puzzles in general have always came a bit slow to me. Hopefully if I keep practicing i'll improve on logic games.

That being said, my question is: how many logic game sections did it take you to where you became comfortable with the logic games and were scoring well in the section?

Like I said, i'm on PT 19 and I still have timing issues, hit roadblocks here and there to where I just don't understand the rules and how they are worded, and still get a few questions wrong.

Hope this makes sense, thanks 7Sage!

How do you guys determine which games you're going to fool proof? Use the sets from my most recent PTs? Or sort by type? Something else?

Hi,

I have been struggling a lot with recent resolve questions (those from PT 50s~). Even after trying tips I learned from the CC and from other sources, this type of question still gives me a hard time.

I would like to beg you for a favor: I want to know how do you usually approach the Resolve questions, specifically:

i) what's your expectation (the key information you look for) for this type of question?

ii) do you have any steps for this type of questions?

iii) if you are going to teach me this q type, what would you tell me?

Thank you very much.

Leon

I get why B is correct but it's impossible to eliminate D. What am I missing here?

Let’s imagine we have 4 graduates, Eva, John, Jerome, and Henry- Our only graduates across the country.

Premise 1: While only Eva and John consider work environment an important factor in choosing a job, Eva, John, Jerome AND Henry consider salary an important factor.

Premise 2: While Chad and Michael, consider stress and important factor due to their veteran status, Eva, John, Jerome AND Henry consider vacation policy an important factor.

Per this outline and sticking to D, Eva, John, Jerome and Henry (all the people who consider vacation and important factor), also consider salary. Per our first stimulus, all 4 consider salary as well.

I’m really starting to feel stupid.

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For those who have taken an LSAT-flex, does the command F key come in handy during the test?