My hunch tells me that this is supposed to be B-->A.

However, my buddy tells me that this is A-->B, which also sounds right.

I have another buddy who tells me that this is A(--)B because

(1) A accompanies B is B-->A

(2) Always is a sufficiency indicator, which means A-->B; ergo, A(--)B

In case you guys are wondering, this is PT51 Section 3 Number 20 Choice (A). This has nothing to do with the answer, but I still want to know :)

Could you guys help me with this?

Hi,

The title says it. To put into numbers, here are recent PTs I did.

PT75 RC: -6/-5(BR)

PT73 RC: -5/-3(BR)

PT76 RC: -7/-4(BR)

PT77 RC: -6/-6(BR)

I started preparing for LSAT about 10 weeks ago. My diagnostic with PT72 was RC: -4/-6(BR). I don't really see improvement.

I am going to write June 2019 test. Should I just forget about RC in the last 3 weeks of study?

Thanks.

Hi! I'm wondering if any high scorers have any tips for me during this final stretch of studying to sit on June 3. I've always felt fairly comfortable with RC in general (not that it's easy, but it doesn't freak me out), and I've gotten to (-1) or (-2) on each passage. The problem is when the 5-minute warning comes, I've only just begun the final passage. I never feel like I'm getting bogged down or struggling during the first three. I feel like I'm doing fine, kicking butt, but clearly I'm NOT because in order to finish the final passage I'd have to give myself 5 extra minutes, which of course, will never be an option during the real test. I know the wisdom claims that timing is never the real issue - that it's just a function of not being at the right level of understanding. OK, fine. So what should I do over these next few weeks? Take a ton of timed RC sections and BR them? Take some timed RC sections where I only complete 3 passages and strive for (-0)? Take some untimed RC sections? Please advise!! Thanks in advance :)

I’m going back to untimed RC drill, and am wondering if I should follow CC or just do sections.

Either way I’ll do four passages, but I haven’t done any problem sets.

So far I’ve drilled by section after CC, and am done with RC from PT1-11.

What’s the criteria for the RC problem sets? Is there a benefit to doing CC problem sets?

Hi everyone! I’m retaking the LSAT and reading comp is by far my hardest section to improve on. I used the 7 sage curriculum and in the process developed my own strategy. I wanted to share to see if it’s helpful or if I’m doing this all wrong.

I basically read each paragraph and underline the main idea in each paragraph before moving to the next. At the end I do a quick scan of all the underlined main ideas.

I find it’s helpful to do this in order to track the general thread in the passage and I can do the low resolution summaries in my head.

Is this wasting time and I should eventually do it in my head?

#help

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I don't know if I'm just getting worse at the LR timed sections or if the LR sections have changed, so this is normal. I was scoring -1 to -4 in the 30s.

Test 40: -6; BR:-2 and -9; BR -3

Test 43: -6; BR:-2 and -4; BR -2

Test 44: -10; BR:-3 and -6; BR -4

Test 45: -10; BR: -6 and -8; BR -1

Test 46: -8; BR -2 and -9 with BR -3

What is going on? From scoring -5 or less consistently to dropping to -10. Ugh I am so upset.

hi guys! so i'm a rising senior at boston university (gpa: 3.33) and i had done some review on here since last summer, but i officially started studying properly the beginning of this week to sit the september test. i have the ultimate+ and i'm trying to get through the core curriculum so i can get as much practice and PTs as i can to be ready by then. i know JY and all of you say that take the lsat when you're ready and not plan around an lsat date, but i have 4 months of absolutely nothing to do but to study so i was hoping i'd be ready by september. i'm thinking of doing 25 hours a week would be good (around 5 hours a day, 6 times per week), and i'm hoping to be done with the CC by the end of june (the CC is extremely long so i have no idea how long it would take me to finish and it's really worrying me), and i'd have around 2.5 months to do PTs. do you guys think that would be doable? i did extremely bad on the diagnostic (137) so i am extremely discouraged, but i am very motivated. i want to get to 170 at some point. i know some of you are gonna say that it's a reach and that i can't improve by that much, but i was not at the best mental state when i took the diagnostic so i don't think it's what i would have scored at my best potential. what way do you guys suggest i study or split my time to reach my goal? september lsat is non-negotiable because i'm applying in the fall and i'm doing ED to northwestern. i reckon that 4 months of only LSAT studying should suffice, no? i don't work or anything this summer. any advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated! i'm really anxious about the whole thing, like i'm getting a daily anxiety attack thinking about studying and finishing on time reaching my goal. i know this is extremely lengthy so i apologize, i just needed to rant and get this off my chest, and if you made it this far into the post i thank you and any words of wisdom from you would go a long way. thanks guys!

Hey I plan on taking the LSAT in September. If anyone is interested in setting up a study group inbox me. I live in Brooklyn, but work in the city. We can meet in person Thursdays or Sundays or we can Skype or video chat any day during the evening.

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

LSAT PT 31

JUNE 2000

section 3 Question 14

Main Point

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-3-question-14/

PLEASE HELP. I am confused about why the conclusion is what it is. When I saw the word "since" I knew it was going to introduce a premise. Then I saw the word "because" and thought it introduced another premise. so I thought the main conclusion was the sentence about "when relatives of the patient who die simply because they were given the less expensive medicine" because the last sentence does say "must ALSO be weighed..." assuming there is extra information being included. But then again as I am typing this I think I was just think "too deep" about it because as I am reviewing the passage it does a lot simpler. However, I didn't think it was the conclusion when the previous question had the sentence "what must ALSO be taken into account..." was considered the premise and not the conclusion. which can be found in the same PT but in section 2 Question. Does all this make sense?

How can I differentiate between the premise and conclusion if it has the world ALSO?

Anyone know similar games?

Hi:

Hope everyone’s studies are going well. I’m hitting a low in confidence and motivation. I was drilling sections (PT 30s and 50s) for a good two months and felt like I was starting to understand LR a little better. I wasn’t scoring crazy high in the sections, however, it was considerably higher than what I started with. (-3/5 at my best) I’ve been redoing the questions I did wrong in addition to reviewing them with JY’s video explanations. I usually get over 20 correct when I do BR. Timing has always been an issue for me.

However, in the last week, I’ve moved onto the newest PTs: PT 70s and 80s (skipping around) and I’ve noticed a huge plunge in my LR and even RC sections (which were never that low). My LG is fine which at least I can hold on to that...

My LSAT is June 3. I’m trying not to succumb to pressure and stress but it’s very disheartening to see my progress dip so low a month before the exam.

Does anyone have any LR studying tips? I have roughly four weeks left until my exam. I was thinking of drilling question types I’m weak on.

All as any input is welcome, thank you and good luck everyone!

-N

Hey all,

Can someone point me in the direction of the lesson that explains the process by which he came to the conclusion he found at around 8:40 of this instruction video?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-2-game-3/

I've gone through his conditional logic tutorials but I haven't been able to find the lesson where he explains either/or rules in relation to in/out games. Why is it that at least one of L or M must be assigned to the "in" group in this sub-group, while the other is free to float?

Thanks!

Hi all!

I just have a question regrading And + Or in the SC and NC and what happens when you Satisfy the SC through Valid Argument Form #1 and Deny the NC through Valid Argument Form #2. Here is where my thinking is at right now if any of you can correct me please do!!

Or in the Sufficient Condition

Valid Argument Form #1: Satisfying the Sufficient Condition

A or B --> C

Because it is an or statement there are three ways that can you can possibly satisfy the Sufficient Condition and conclude C.

Valid Argument Form #2: Denying the Necessary Condition

A or B --> C

When you deny the Necessary Condition by saying /C you can end up with 3 possibilities.

And in the Necessary Condition

Valid Argument Form #2: Denying the Sufficient Condition

A --> B and C

When you say /B and /C you conclude /A because B and C are jointly necessary they must both be denied.

LR is my lowest scoring section by far! I'm getting really concerned about this. Are there any tips you guys recommend that will help me improve this section??

Should i just be practicing over and over again? or is there a better technique or trick for some questions that will ensure I get the right answers?

Anything helps! Im getting anxiety about this.

Freedom of speech is the only rational policy for this government to adopt.

Is this a biconditional sentence?

I know there is an answer to this question out there, but I am really confused on the conditional logic here. If someone can break that down for me, it would greatly help me understand when the other answer choices are wrong and further help me see why D is right.

#help

Hi everyone,

I tried searching in the discussions and the CC but wasn't able to find what I'm looking for... feel free to redirect me if there's already a lesson/thread that covers this.

Can anyone provide me with an example of a Flaw type problem where it mistakes a necessary condition for a sufficient condition as well as a problem where it mistakes a sufficient condition for a necessary condition?

I conceptually understand what mistaking one for the other looks like when written in lawgic but would like to see how this looks like in an LSAT problem.

Thank you!

I just wanna clarify something. So i will start the LG section soon.. do you guys recommend i start fool proofing games during the CC or afterwards? and i do have access to PTs 1-35 so i can get the LG bundle.. can you guys tell me when and for what reason should I do the bundle? is that where i start fool proofing? I would really appreciate it if someone can clear this up for me.

FYI i will take the July test so maybe i should go with a different strategy?

THANKS IN ADVANCE! :)

Hi everyone I have been struggling with finding the strengthens but mostly the weakness of an argument? Any tips on how to master it? Because I been practicing and practicing and still struggling with the section. :(

I am struggling very much with most strongly supported questions. Sometimes I will do problem sets and get 4/5 and then sometimes I get 2/5. I've noticed that reading carefully and looking for key words are a good technique but what other strategies do you have for MSS questions? Thank you.

Hi guys,

I want to make an argument and delete LSAT 25, S2, Q10 from the problem set because the answer choice is poorly written.

Without diving too deeply what the question is saying, it is about some spider webs that emits UV and conclusion is that the insects get attracted because of the pattern.

Naturally, after reading the question, the weakest spot from the argument that I had naturally draw without reading the answer choices has to do with this specific pattern and maybe it connects with "food or mating".

And the answer choice E, which is the correct answer choice because it proves that okay insects are attracted to the UV. But that is entirely restating the premise. The answer choice is made correct because we got A, B, C irrelevant and answer choice D being 180. SO answer choice E, which doesn't do anything that sort of just rephrase the premise, being the right answer.

Please let me know how you feel. And if you feel that the answer choice certainly strengthens I be very honored to hear your reasoning because I just don't see how answer choice E is different from confirming the premise and the gap still leaves untouched.

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I've done some number crunching and determined the rest of my schedule for leading up to the June 2019 LSAT (~27 days away). I am studying full-time currently. I am currently fool-proofing logic games and have about 90 hours of logic game study left. This makes my study schedule as follows:

Now until May 22nd: Logic Games fool-proofing

May 23rd to June 1st: 6 full-length practice tests (one full day for a test and one full day for each review)

June 2nd: rest day

June 3rd: LSAT

Does 7Sage think I should change my schedule up leading up in June LSAT?

Okay, so I eliminated D right away and was stuck between answer choice B and E. Is D correct because Mayor Tyler said "in 1982 when I first showed how the building would relieve the overcrowding we were experiencing" and Councillor Simon said "Roseville has saved by not having to maintain an underutilized courthouse for 10 years"?

Hi All. I am curious to know some techniques or strategies on how people have been studying. Are you doing ALL the problem sets directly after the lessons? For example for MSS questions, are you doing all the problem sets in a row? Saving some for later days? What have you found helpful in regards to this? I hear from people the best way to get better is to continue to do problems; However, my worry is that by the time I get to the Logic Games or reading comprehension, I would have already completed all the problem sets for the logical reasoning. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Thank you.