Does anyone have an example of this type of Flaw as an actual LSAT question.

The flaw is something like ~The argument explicitly goes against what author stated previously. Not sure if I'm coming across clearly but if you know what I'm talking about can you direct me to an LSAT questions where this flaw is used.

Hi all,

I've been struggling to understand this question for quite some time.. What is clearly given in the stimulus is a one way conditional:

IF Authors blah blah... --> A work counts as being interpreted

But the right answer.. basically relies on negating the sufficient conditions given, to reach the conclusion that it can't be interpreted. So it seems to me that the question is assuming that the reverse (so biconditional) holds. I tried to justify this answer by saying that MSS inference questions aren't as strict as MBT, but I'm still a bit puzzled by the inconsistency, as in other questions, we were able to/meant to rule out wrong answers on the basis that it was a mistaken reversal.

Is it something about the wording in this stimulus that necessitates understanding of the "IF" here as a bi-conditional? I'd appreciate any insight into this question!!

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So I've been studying for the lsat for about a year now, and I can honestly say I've improved alot in each area from when I started. However, I took the Dec 2017 lsat and the one yesterday and still feel I didn't do well. I'm feeling hopeless and I feel like I'm watching my dreams crumble right in front of me. I'm worried to retake it again and get the same result because I know law schools look down upon too many takes. I've never worked so hard for something in my life. I've went through every prep tests and it just seems like the scores I get are not reflective of how much I studied. I blind review extensively and did every logic game 10 times each. Reading comp has always been my weak point but I've definitely made improvements. I just don't know why the progress I make when I'm studying is not showing on the actual test. If anyone has been in a similar situation and has any particular advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

What is a major premise and a sub conclusion? Also what are other terminology words that I will need to know in relation to logical reasoning questions?

Attention test takers- please please send an email to lsac on how horrible our proctors were today. The talking, cellphone going off, eating wrapped candy etc. please please!!!!

I'm registered for the September test and am starting to freak out about it. I am ~4 years out of college and work a pretty demanding full time job, and have been studying as much as I can for about the last 9 months. I had not starting doing PTs except for my diagnostic a while ago which I scored a 163. I did my first PT since then over the weekend, and my score dropped to 160 after months and months of studying! I'm feeling discouraged because my target is 170. With only 12 weeks until the test, I've planned out realistically being able to do 16 more PTs. I'm worried this isn't enough, or if my time would be better spent drilling LG which is where I have the lowest scores. I'm missing 3 or less on RC, 5 or less on LR, and fluctuating wildly on LG. Any advice?

Hey friends!

Tomorrow it's my first time taking LSAT. I just printed my ticket and realized my hair is way longer than I took the photo. In the photo, I had a short bob with a bang, now it's around my shoulder and I decide to tie my hair up tomorrow. Would this be problematic? Would I be deny entrance? Since on the information sheet, it says "the uploaded photo must match your appearance on the day of the test (with or without beard).

I was freaking out because I thought the test was not at 12:30pm despite what my ticket said. I thought perhaps they did not indicate for PDT, but it is 12:30 PM in June all over the country, right?

Also, my ticket is printed in black and white. Is that okay, or does it need to be in color because of the photograph?

I have finished fool-proofing the first 20 games in the set but I regularly come across games that give me problems. I have improved, don't get me wrong, but my scores on full sections are still wildly inconsistent. My best section ever I was able to get -2 and finish all of the games in time, but just yesterday I got a -7 on a full section. Is this type of variance normal for someone who has fool-proofed around 20 games or should I restart from game 1?

thanks :)

Does anyone have any advice/comments on RC cookie cutters? Would love to start a discussion on the various cookie cutters on passages, right AC's, wrong AC's, etc.

Some I can think off the top of my head is cookie cutter wrong AC's are often way toooo strong, the phenomenon/hypothesis in science passages, etc. Thanks!

I'll keep this short... if you're an early bird and are taking either one of the summer exams, try to head to bed a bit LATER these next few nights. Reason being... things don't kick off (on exam day) until 1pm, so being bright-eyed and bushy-tailed (at 8am) won't work this time around.

Has anyone found themselves BR'ing a few questions from right to wrong in RC?

Any advice on this? Thanks.

Can someone please be kind enough to explain to me why the answer is (c)? I was able to eliminate only (a) and (b). I thought (c), (d), and (e) were all valid. I think I am missing something here.. Please help! Thank you so much.

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I've been over the LR CC twice now and also have tried to incorporate various suggestions I've found on the discussion forum to get better at LR and nothing works, I seem to be getting worse. In desperate need of help! I vary from -3 to -7 on LR and I really want to improve it to a maximum of -2 before my June (24th) attempt. Any clue as to what I should do?

So I'm working through the CC right now and I'm currently in the Intro to Grouping Games: In/Out Games section. So as I've been going through these games I have been fool proofing ones that give me difficulty, which is most of them actually. So what I was really wondering is if I should not move onto to another set, game etc. until I fool proof the prior games. It seems that sometimes i'll be fool proofing and do about 7 copies of a game and master it then I move onto another game in the section and I get stuck again. I'm just wondering if moving on further down in games without fully mastering games is actually hurting me. But I do have to keep moving forward is basically what I'm getting at. I can clarify what I mean as well. Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.

Does anyone have a blank copy of the spreadsheet Pacifico used to keep track of his LG progress?

Thanks in advance

Hey everyone,

So, I'm working through my analysis of this question since, yes, I got it wrong on my last section drill, and I'd be interested to hear some of all you smart people's thoughts on the question/choices. For context, it's a MBT. As I read it, the contribution law outlined in the stimulus could be translated logically as,

Contribution of $100 by a nonresident who was not a former resident ---> contribution must be registered with the city council

The author notes that no nonresidents contributed to a particular candidate's campaign. So, from my understanding, the sufficient condition outlined in the stimulus is failed (but not necessarily the necessary condition). So, when I glanced at "C," I immediately thought that they were trying to tempt me with a mistaken negation, purporting that it must be true that no contributions to the candidate's campaign needed to be registered with the council. The thought that popped into my mind was, "Well, but there could be other reasons why a contribution might need to be registered with the city council." But, in this case it seems that I and the LSAT writers are not of one mind. :P

Is part of my misunderstanding rooted in that it introduces the particular law in question as "The law..." rather than "A law..."? Should that indicate to me that there is only one law and, thus, only one reason for registering a contribution with the city council?

Love to hear you're thoughts!

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Advice needed!! D:

So tomorrow I have an opportunity to take a mock exam in the exact venue that our actual LSAT will be taken in.. BUT I have only ONE fresh PT left (this is my fourth take...). Should I use this opportunity to simulate test conditions and see how I do, and finetune/focus on my weaknesses till 24th June (international test date)? Since I've already studied for so long I have a feeling that I probably won't dramatically increase my scores in the next few weeks... OR the other option is to take the last exam maybe a week later after which I would have had more time to review.. what do you think would be best?!

(Also I think my biggest weakness is dealing with high pressure situations.. my scores fluctuate terribly depending on how confident I feel.. so I am leaning towards taking the fresh one tomorrow in the testing site so that I can get used to the environment.. But of course! your input will help me finalize my decision!)

Thanks!!

why C is correct?

my understanding is that "when people show signs of having a heart attack, EKG is used", so the "cases in which no heart attack occurred", they probably not use EKG, so it's out of scope, because the conclusion is about "Interpreting EKG data".

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Hi,

I'm studying for the July LSAT in Washington DC and wanted to see if there are any other future lawyers in the DC area that would like to start a local study group? Self-studying is great but there's always something you just can't figure out and it would be so much better to be able to just ask someone next to you without waiting for a person.

Please let me know if you would be interested and what your availability is. If there's enough interest hopefully we can get something going.

Ben

Just beginning my fool-proofing process and I'm curious to know what everyone has done/ is doing! Debating between going in order from the different games I come across (for ex: simple sequencing examples then the problem sets then sequencing w/ a twist it's examples then its problem sets etc) or jumping around wherever I feel like.

Good luck to those testing next week!

This question kind of screwed me because of how I got it wrong. It seems like being critical in this instance really played me for the worst!

After reading the stimulus, I did what any decent test taker would do, and got combative with the author. I mentally muttered to myself, "alright buddy, maybe these writers were 'frantic' because our nation is in decline!"

I want to be clear here. I could've said just about anything. I could've just as easily said, "Maybe these authors just drank a cup of coffee before writing their essays. That doesn't mean their arguments are invalid." But I didn't say this second retort. I said the first, and low and behold, I got sucked into answer choice E.

Answer A is right. It's kind of beautiful, because usually ad hominem flaws are easy to spot, but the LSAT writers did a number here with the language in A. It's roundabout, and doesn't explicitly state that the author fails to address the actual argument, but instead attacks the proponent of the argument. That language is normal for ad hominem flaws. This choice kind of duped me.

Check out E. It's literally playing off my first rebuttal. I mentally said that these guys could be anxious because our nation is in decline. I'm not saying that's what it is, but I'm just saying that someone's tone isn't indicative of anything. I totally fell for this trap and what's most amazing is that it's like the LSAT writers KNEW that someone would think this way. That's going to be hard to get around if this happens again..

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Does anyone have any information about the test center in the International Trade Center (Ronald Reagan Building) in Washington DC? My test center got switched to here and I have no idea where to go, since the Reagan Building is a massive federal building. Any advice??

What's the best method to use when you need to choose the AC between two answers. Always get stuck between 2 choices.

Hi everyone,

I've been doing PTs for the past 3 weeks now and have just been stuck around 155-160 averaging around the same for each section. Sometimes RC is horrible and sometimes i do really well, but the LR sections are always around 65-75%. It is so frustrating that I'm not getting any better and the June LSAT is FAST approaching. I started studying using 7Sage after my finals ended around April 20, and I naively thought that would be enough time. I did not want to take the undisclosed July sitting as this is my first attempt at the LSAT.

any other tips/tricks would be great too