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I usually finish all games in about 25 minutes and for harder sections, about 30 minutes. Mostly, i’d go -0 on LG but once in every 10PTs or so i’d get one wrong as a result of a stupid mistake. I find myself just sitting there for the remaining 5-10 minutes for LG not knowing what exactly to do. I also try to reread the rules and see if I wrote them down correctly, but even after that I I have time left.

What do you recommend me doing? Should I just take a deep breath, prepare myself mentally for the next sections and treat it as a mini break or is there something specific I can do to check my work?

Hello everyone, I just finsihed my first LSAT today, and the RC gave me a really hard time as usual. I officially started my course with 7sage on May 1st (2019), and according to the 7-8 PrepTest I completed, my RC can hardly reach more than 60%. I'm thinking about taking a second and probably my final LSAT in November. In the meantime, I really want to improve my RC score by being well-read. Since I'm already familiar with the skills provided in the core curriculum, it really is my level of vocabulary and grammar that is limiting my comprehension.

I'm an international student studying in Canada, and I didn't speak English four years ago. Therefore I took a year off and learned the language before I enrolled in regular university courses (3 years ago). Now as a political science major student, I have no problem getting A or A+ in senior level courses, but the RC section contains a lot of non-academic but still formal vocabularies and expression. My situation is that becaue I didn't have the time to learn English step by step (from daily conversation to professional), now I can master many convoluted political theories with excessively abstract terms, but I'm lacking some every-day vocabularies and figure of speech. However, since now I have four more months to prepare my next battle, I want to read some passages that resembles RC section every day to improve my reading speed and refine my ability to summarize and retain information. My study buddies have recommanded me to read newspapers and novels, but I also want to hear everyone's suggestion here. Thank you all very much in advance!

April Li

What do you wish you had done to prepare in hindsight?

So today I took the July 2019 LSAT and was hoping to have my final romance with the paper test but its literally out with the old, in with the new.

This was not my first time taking it digital, I have taken the testing version couple years back. And compared to the one they were testing, this was definitely an improvement. What did I love about it? https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11165

1- It was very smooth, and saved so much time because you can flag a question, eliminate it on the right side or highlight.

2- Easy to navigate from one question to another. You are on track on time because of built in timer, so bye bye all those LSAT watch industry.

3- The tablet was very responsive and you had underline, and three highlight choices which made RC so much more colorful and fun. I was able to highlight AO in one color Critic in another and it honestly isn't time consuming at all.

4- You have option to adjust the color, font, and the angle of the tablet (surface) as you like.

5- Scratch paper available for all sections, I remember when they were doing tests they only gave it for Games.

6- I had a fantastic time and honestly I am excited to retake it. (I took this one just for fun, since I can wipe out the score completely, July perks only)

So honestly guys, you are going to love it and don't be afraid of it at all! Here is my original review of it if you want more details. https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11165

Hey guys! While I don’t have another experience to compare it to since this was my first time, our digital process went incredibly smoothly. I actually liked that I could set the tablet up and read without being hunched over. Also, not having to fill in tiny bubbles and worrying that you bubbled the wrong one and got off track for the next 10 questions is a huge relief. I think this method saves some time for me that way, except.. I had a couple questions I flagged to go back to and got short on time so flipping through the screens to select an answer was a bit slower than rapidly filling in the blank ones on a Scantron. I intend to write again in October so either way it’s not the end of the world, I’m just glad I got to experience the digital version for this test. For the ones that got stuck waiting around for the digital, just know that it is capable of being run smoothly. It didn’t appear anyone had trouble with their tablet from what I could tell.

My memory doesn’t seem to be as good as everyone else’s as far as which section contained which questions BUT:

I did HAVE:

Sickleback fish

Jupiter

Tomatoes

Zebra camouflage

Planets/Stars

Bleached Coral

I did NOT have:

Haunted Houses

Coffeehouses

Napoleon

English Trade

Chinese Tea

Arsenic

Lemurs

Furthermore, the RC did seem tough to me in comparison to the recent 80s PTs I’ve taken. I always seem to trudge through if the topic isn’t at all interesting to me and the first passage was awful! So I definitely felt a bit slow. I’m not where I would like to be on LGs yet but they didn’t seem to be overwhelmingly difficult.

Good luck to everyone planning to write again... for me, back to powering through some more LGs.

One huge disadvantage to the digital one is that I can’t annotate or write on the tablet. The scratch paper doesn’t really help except for the logic games :(. Any advise?

I’m taking my first real LSAT tomorrow! I was wondering if any of you have advice for taking the afternoon test. I wake up between 7 and 8 and am unsure of how I should spend my time before going to the testing center. I don’t want to freak myself out or get too stressed...but I’ll be up for hours beforehand thinking about it. Any advice is appreciated. And good luck to any/all testing tomorrow! We got this!

I'm taking the test tomorrow at a hotel about an hour away, and will need my phone for directions. The hotel front desk said they would be willing to hold my phone for me, but some other posts make it sound like I wouldn't even be able to get into the hotel with my phone? Could someone advise? Thanks!

How do you distinguish between answer choice A and answer choice D? While I understand why A is correct, why is D incorrect? If almost all citations result in fines, shouldn't "nearly all" of the landowners at 48+ hours be fined?

just to clarify, we will only have the option of a free test if we decide to cancel our July LSAT, correct? If we decide to keep our score, the free test is gone.

Looking for a study buddy in Toronto or anywhere in the world with whom I could check in daily (via Whatsapp for example), and they with me, about their progress and such in order to motivate one another not to slack off and kill it for the November LSAT or any other date. If anyone is interested, please let me know.

Thank you!

Do you all bring a few LR questions / LG game / RC questions that you are confident on to the test center with you to warm up the brain before the test starts?

Other ideas for getting the juices flowing in the hour or so leading up to check in?

Thank you!!

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Game 4 - Can anyone please explain this game.

I had a very rough concept of its limitations. I somehow guessed 4/6 correctly but I did not fully understand any of it.

From a logic perspective (see below) I can't work out any meaningful differences, but I noticed that JY splits these off in his map of bi-conditional statements. Am I missing something?

A ↔ C

/A ↔ /C

I am 25% through the core curriculum and just finished the "Sufficient Assumption & Pseudo Sufficient Assumption Questions" section. After doing all the lessons and problem sets, I am still struggling to get SA and PSA correct. Something just isn't clicking. I watch all of the explanations but they feel very abstract to me. Is there another resource I can engage (LSAT Trainer, Power Score, Khan, etc.) that can help teach me these concepts in a different way? I think a new approach might be helpful, but the only study resource I've ever used is 7Sage (which for the record, I love). I'm desperate, because I know how foundational these questions are to doing well on LR. Any tips/advice?

Looking at a Monday forecast for rain % is pretty irrelevant at this point. This is a "RAIN event", and therefore the major concern is going to be flooding and pooling. The span of rain associated with Barry is1138 miles...Matagorda Bay Tx - Florida (even the Bahamas)! The major issue isn't just what falls as rain. When rivers, lakes, and water sheds start overflowing, things get even more tricky.

What would LSAC do if we (and proctors) are unable to make it to their testing site?

I cannot see us losing the advantages of July 15th LSAT due to a natural disaster...

What can/could we possibly be looking at?

I know some people argue that logical reasoning has gotten more challenging in recent practice tests, but I find that for the questions I am getting wrong on practice tests 1-10, I literally just do not understand what the stimulus or answer choices are saying at times. I find that the more recent practice tests are a lot more straightforward and use language in a way that I am more familiar with. Maybe this has to do with the fact that English is my second language and the early 90s LSATs are what my parent's generation would've taken, but they do not speak English with me at home so I may be unfamiliar with the way language has changed / is spoken differently. What are your thoughts on this?

Hi all,

There are 10 weeks until the September 2019 LSAT. I was super discouraged after getting bumped off the waitlist to my desired school the second time I'm writing it. Since I am overall free this summer, I thought I would take the opportunity to write once more for my fourth time. Is it best to use ULTIMATE or should I go for the basic starter package and take 1-2 PT's a week? Any input would be good!

Hello all,

I should make it clear that I am not looking to get a perfect score in the RC section but rather maximize efficiency. In LG, by skipping the substitution and equivalence questions and coming back if I had time I was able to boost my average a few points. In LR, I skip any PF questions after question #10 and come back if I have time. This has also boosted my average for LR. I was wondering if i can employ a similar strategy for RC. I find that the rated difficulty of the passage really has no bearing on my score for that passage. Some 2 star passages I bomb because I struggle to understand the content. Some 5 star passages I ace because I understand the content. My average score for an RC section is -10 and with that I am still scoring in the 160's. Also it is important to note my BR for RC sections is ALWAYS -1 or -2. I can provide more context if needed, any response is appreciated!

I am worried I may not have enough time to complete the curriculum without rushing. I am signed up for the September 21st LSAT date. Do I have enough time? Should I jump around from LR to LG to RC; or should I just complete the lessons in the order they are presented? My initial diagnostic was around 135 and I'm hoping to get into the 160's. I suppose I can always retake, but I want to apply to law school this fall for the year 2020. I've been making good progress with the LR lessons and am going to keep plugging away. I'm working 50 plus hours per week currently and studying about 3 hours per day in the evenings. With one rest day that means about 18 hours per week of study time. I'm also trying to pt twice per week.

I have an issue with AC A because I don't see how the argument's sub-conclusion draws from the stated claim. It seems to me that there is a need for an unstated assumption - something along the lines of "heavy industrial activity rids a region of its natural beauty". The part of the claim about dependence on natural beauty is a necessary condition for the operation of many local businesses. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but in order for the claim to be "direct" evidence for the argument's sub-conclusion, doesn't this sub-conclusion have to invoke the notion of how natural beauty would be tarnished in the presence of industrial activity? Without this notion, there could be many reasons why coal mining would force the majority of local businesses to close, one of which being (perhaps) the more lucrative or stable business opportunity of starting your own coal mine.

Also, it seems to me that the same unstated assumption mentioned above, needed (in my opinion) to classify the claim as "direct" evidence for the argument's sub-conclusion, can analogously be used to classify the claim as "direct" evidence for the argument's main conclusion: if coal mining harms natural beauty, then it seems reasonable to expect that coal mining would reduce the number of jobs since many local businesses depend on natural beauty.

Would appreciate any thoughts on this.

Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-87-section-3-question-20/

Fines levied against those responsible for certain environmentally damaging accidents are now so high that it costs a company responsible for such an accident more to pay the fine than it would have cost to adopt measures that would have prevented the accident. Therefore, since businesses value their profits, those that might have such accidents will now install adequate environmental safeguards.

Which one of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A) Businesses generally greatly underestimate the risk of future accidents.

B ) Businesses are as concerned with long-term as they are with short-term strategies for maximizing profits.

C) Businesses generally do the environmentally “right” thing only if doing so makes good business sense.

D) Businesses treat fines that are levied against them as an ordinary business expense.

E) Businesses are learning to exploit the public’s environmental awareness in promoting themselves.

I am not 100% certain in understanding why A is correct and why D is incorrect.

Thank you.

Does anyone know what the scheduled date for October score release is? LSAC just says TBD.

I'd feel more comfortable taking this test if I know scores will be sent before Thanksgiving.

A question like this was posted before but it is kinda dated. So basically should I first do PT 36 then do like 40 then do most of my PT from 50-70 and leave couple of 80s before 2 weeks or something from my exam date?