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By which, I mean can a conclusion be divided between two complete sentences. Where in the sum of the two sentences create the fully fleshed out conclusion. If so, does the sentence have to have a comma or can it be “Sentence 1. +Sentence 2 = conclusion.”

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Advice for February LSAT takers

Hi all,

What’s the most efficient way to study for the next two weeks? Should I be doing one prep test per day at this point?

I work part time, so I have the mornings free and also the evenings.

Fyi I have been spending most of my time doing BR and haven’t done a lot of prep tests. I’m still struggling with timing for logic games so my strategy is to just focus on three out of four games.

Edit: I have already taken at least 10 preptests in the past two months

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Last comment thursday, jan 25 2018

PT8.S4.Q17 - Exclusivity

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I didn't understand how A is worded.. can somebody translate this French into English. Thank u.

"This strategy lacks a counterproductive feature of the rejected alternative"

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Can anyone shed a little light on this one for me? I see now why the correct answer is correct but I chose C because I felt that it was blocking any alternate explanations for the prevented deaths. I thought that taking more trips and the total time in cars remaining constant would rule out saying deaths are being prevented because the kids are now in cars less than 8 yrs ago. Am I reaching here? The explanations I’ve read have said that the amount of time in cars is irrelevant. The only thing I’m seeing that sticks out now is “average total time”. Would that make a difference?

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So the following is the order that I attempt again when I come back after I skip them during the 1st pass in an LR section:

  • The Qs that I skipped without looking at answer choices not because I realized they were particularly difficult but because I simply couldn't focus at the moment.
  • The Qs that I had to force myself to pick one over the other, very attractive contender.
  • The Qs that I realized they are one of the most difficult Qs in the section and so I know that spending more time on those Qs will not necessarily lead to getting them correct.
  • Do you guys have any other suggestions?

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    I am having trouble understanding why A is the right answer.

    P: Ink from Bible by Gutenberg contains titanium. Ink of another bible from 15th Century contains titanium. Ink from other printing from 15th century does not contain titanium. (from the word "another" I am thinking that Gutenberg Bible was from 15th Century)

    Conclusion: This finding supports (1) B3 bible was printed by Gutenberg, (2) We cannot doubt that the Vinland Map is not from 15th century because of the presence of titanium in the ink.

    In arriving the first conclusion, the author is making an assumption that only Gutenberg used ink containing titanium in 15th century.

    What I don't understand it that in arriving second conclusion, I don't see that the author is making an assumption that ink containing titanium was widely used (not restricted as the answer choice A states). I am thinking that it could be that those Vinland Maps were printed by Gutenberg. In that case, the second conclusion follows well. The second conclusion is based on the premise that ink containing titanium was used in 15th century by somebody. How can we say that the author is assuming that titanium ink was widely used (not restricted) from this conclusion? The premise is talking about one Vinland Map in question and we don't know how popular that map was during that time. It could be there were only few copies made by Gutenberg, then can't we conclude that presence of titanium in the ink of Vinland Map is no longer a reason to doubt of 15th century authenticity?

    Thank you for any help you can give.

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 23 2018

    PT35.S4.Q23 - older wiser tree ring

    This question is a “similar reasoning question”. It says “ the higher the altitude, the thinner the air. Since Mexico City’s altitude is higher than that of Panama City, the air must be thinner in Mexico City than in Panama City.” I have looked at the right answer but I am confused as to why one of the wrong answers (a) is incorrect. It says “as one gets older one gets wiser. Since Henrietta is older than her daughter, Henrietta must be wiser than her daughter”.

    This to me is an attractive wrong answer. If it was posed as “the older you get, the wiser you are...” would that have made it right?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-4-question-23/

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    So I’ve been spending 3-4hrs BR’ing LGs using Pacifico’s method every night after my 8-5 job on weekdays and then 3-4 hours on Saturday and Sunday as well. I’ll work on one new game and then repeat a game from the day before and a game from the week before. I’ve only taken one day off. I’ve made it to LG 25 and i’ve improved a lot.

    I’ve been fighting this flu for the past few days and it’s making me a lot slower at LGs. I’m struggling on games that were a breeze for me even on my first take. I’m still getting all the q’s right and not brute forcing my way thru it, I’m just a few min slower.

    Would it be better to take a few days off and come back to it? or is it better to keep going and not stop practicing?

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 23 2018

    Advice on drilling LR

    Hi,

    Just to give some background: I have a high-160s score and plan on retaking in June. LR is my weakness. On my official test, I got -10 (combined) across the two sections. I have been retaking old tests, but am thinking about how best to reduce my misses in LR.

    To those who have experience making this jump: should I do untimed sections of LR and really try to internalize the reasoning in each question OR do timed 35 minute sections with blind review (though I've seen these sections already)?

    I'm torn because during my official test, I ran out of time to really digest certain questions so timing is an issue, but I also attribute my inability to complete a section to a general weakness in understanding the stimuli presented.

    Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 23 2018

    Timed logic games.

    JY mentions by full proofing if you didn't do the question in the proper time, to go over it several more times. whats considered the proper time for each logic game? Do i give myself an extra minute or two if its a hard logic game?

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    Last comment monday, jan 22 2018

    Less than 3-wks away

    I'm practically devoting the remaining days left to get in as many lessons under my belt as possible; 12 v 24/7 if need be. Wondering if I change my Feb test date to June whether or not law schools would even consider it for F18 class. Thoughts?

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    Last comment monday, jan 22 2018

    High accuracy, low speed

    Hi all,

    When I drill my weaker LR question types (untimed), I almost always go -0, and on BR I usually go -1/-2 per LR section. On a timed section, however, I usually score closer to -9 per section. Also, I feel strong for the first section of the test, but wear out as the test goes along. How do I improve endurance between PT's (I don't want to waste PT's)?

    What drills should I do to improve speed and endurance for LR?

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    Last comment sunday, jan 21 2018

    Fool-proofing

    So I'm in the middle of fool-proofing. The first time I do a game, I will just use a stop watch and see how long it took me, while trying to work it as fast I can. I'm getting -0 or -1 on all the games. But my first go is often 10+ minutes. I'm a bit proud that I'm getting all these games, it's an awesome feeling, before I started the CC I was so weak at games... BUT now discouraged at taking 10 minutes. Some, I've taken 14. I'd say most are 9 to 10 mins, in looking at my chart, that I took from Pacifico's LG attack strategy. Is it reasonable to expect to get faster the more I keep FPing?

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    PT19. S2. Q17

    Hi everyone, I'm having trouble with this one. Here is how I diagrammed it.

    premise1) devote to study natural process---- have leisure

    premise 2) resources plentiful --- have leisure (------ note: i originally diagrammed premise 2 as the reverse of this statement but since it says "when" in premise 2 which introduces a sufficient assumption I changed it.

    premise 3 + 4) early societies made complex discoveries - result of active study of natural process(/p)

    I thought the answer was A) but its C. I thought it was A because when you combine premise 1 and 2 it creates a some statement between the two which I thought would be correct.

    Can someone explain to me where I am going wrong.

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    Last comment sunday, jan 21 2018

    Question about NA questions

    So for necessary assumptions, the assumptions can be about the context, premise and conclusion? If the negation a statement attacks, say, the context of an argument, would this statement be a necessary assumption? Am I understanding this right??

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    I went through JY's courses and have a question I just can't seem to solve by myself.

    JY explained that sufficient assumption questions are something like:

    Premise: A

    Conclusion: B

    Answer: A->B

    But I keep thinking that this type of question could also be a necessary assumption question.

    Obviously, A->B is necessary to get to the conclusion B.

    So, my question is, are these "fill the gap" kind of questions both sufficient assumption and necessary assumption questions at the same time??

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    Hi I was just wondering if someone could clear this up for me, because this confusion cost me quite a few points on in-out games, by making me hesitate

    Example rules:

    (1) K (----) /M

    (2) K ----> /M

    (1) would be a bi-conditional (always apart never together) and (2) would be a typical not-both rule.

    My confusion centers around what would happen if given the premise K is out ( /K )...

    The second rule would be considered irrelevant (sufficient failed), and "M" is free to float (correct me on this if I'm wrong); but would the first rule get "triggered" (meaning M would be in) because its an always apart never together bi-conditional?OR would the bi-conditional also be considered irrelevant because the sufficient condition is also getting failed in (1)? I'm hoping somebody could explain the logic behind how/what happens. I mean in the explanation videos JY usually splits the master game board if provided with a rule like (1) where K is in and M is out on one, and vice versa on the other, so you never have to really deal with the situation I've presented, since its already represented.

    I guess I'm just curious lol

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    Hi @J.Y. Ping , I have come across a non-linear spacial game type . I need your suggestion on how to go about it. Since it is a different type of game so it must be having different way to interpret its rules . A sample of such a question is like this :

    Admin edit: Removed full question. Please link to the PT instead of posting the stimulus as it is against our rules!

    (Also please avoid thread titles in all caps, the admins are sensitive and don't like to be yelled at.)

    Please guide me to tackle such misc questions and how to interpret the game board setup and interpret their rules.

    Thanks and Regards,

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    "Which one of the following, if true, most justifies the above application of the principle?" - Is this Principle question or PSA?

    "Which one of the following would be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?" - Sufficient Assumption? PSA?

    These two appear on the later LSAT's and always give me pause and I'm not sure how to attack them...

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    This is a pretty easy question IMO, but I have a question about why (E) is wrong and the interpretation of "or".

    The author of the passage provided Nicaraguan pines as an example of a forest produced in part through controlled burning. The author does not think the pines were produced by natural fires. So the most straightforward explanation for why (E) is wrong is that the author would not agree that the Nicaraguan pines "could have been created by natural fires or controlled burning" because (s)he disagrees with natural fires as the cause.

    But consider this: Let's say we know that A is true, and that B is not true. Given that information, can I logically conclude that "Either A is true or B is true"? I submit that the answer is yes. Because we know that A is true, it's a true statement to say that "A is true or B is true." For example, let's say I'm a senior in college. Someone asks me what year I am. I respond, "I am either a junior or senior in college." What I said in response is logically true even though I am not a junior. Or, let's say today is Wednesday. Someone asks what day it is. I say "It's either Wednesday or Thursday." That is a true statement, even though it's not Thursday.

    So returning to answer choice (E), if the author's point is that the Nicaraguan pines were produced by controlled burning, then wouldn't the author logically HAVE TO AGREE that the fires could have been created by controlled burning or natural fires? Even if they weren't created by controlled burning, they were created by natural fires. So in the same sense that "I am a junior or senior" is true even if I am only a senior, "Created by controlled burning or natural fires" must be true even if it's just controlled burning. Why is this analysis wrong?

    Does it have anything to do with the "could have been created by either" aspect of the answer choice? Some might think that the answer choice is not using "or" in the exact same way as "I am a junior or senior", because whereas that statement is equivalent to asserting that "I am at least one of the following things: junior or senior", the claim that the pines "could have been created by either natural fires or controlled burning" is asserting that both parts of the OR are definitely potential explanations, rather than the idea that "at least one of these explanations is correct". Is that what explains why (E) is wrong? If so, can someone elaborate on the grammatical or contextual rules governing the meaning of "or" in this situation?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-3-passage-1-questions/

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    Last comment friday, jan 19 2018

    Flawed question types.

    A little over a week in 7sage I took a PT and improved by 3 points. I got a 157 a new personal best! With that said, I'm still having problems with the LR questions that ask something along the lines of the flaw in this argument best resembles... or the flaw in this argument is......these question types. Any pointers?

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