So I'm in my final semester in undergrad and I'm considering taking a class pass/fail, I know the LSAC GPA calculator doesn't penalize you for this, but do admissions officers at elite law schools frown on it? I've never taken a pass/fail class before

Hey all,

So I realize J.Y's general rule for when to use a chart vs. when to use a standard grouping game board is that if the variables are only used once (are exhaustible) than use the regular grouping game board, and if the variables can be used more than once (inexhaustible) then use the chart. This generally works, but I find there are exceptions to this rule on certain games.

One example is game 3 in the C2 test. It's the game where you have to design three tricolor costumes, but the colors can be used more than once.

For this one, I found the standard grouping game set up way more helpful than a chart, and I noticed that J.Y also uses a standard grouping board.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-c2-section-1-game-3/

I'm wondering if there is something about the game that makes it unique that I'm just not seeing?

Would really appreciate any insight as when to use chart vs. grouping is one of the only areas left I still feel a little unsure on.

thanks!

Hi all (: I just joined so I'm sorry if I'm not doing this correctly.. I've never written in a forum before! I was just curious if you guys had any advice on personal statements? I just finished mine but I'm not sure how great it is, or if my topic is ok. Thanks!

If anyone has a PS that is centered around divorce/close family member's death, I'd be glad to swap and offer some insight. My PS revolves around that subject. Go ahead and message me and I'll share email.

Hey friends,

This is just a lil encouragement post for those of us who may have been underwhelmed by our LSAT performance, and anyone reading the boards who is thinking about joining 7Sage.

When I started studying for the LSAT over the winter, I was dead-set on taking the June exam, ace-ing it, and being admitted early to Harvard (a girl can dream). I've always been kind of type A, and sometimes I get discouraged when I'm not immediately the best at something. However, I quickly realized I wasn't ready to sit in June, and began studying nearly full-time with 7Sage in March. I have this to say: the community here, from the instructors to the other students, has completely changed my mindset. I'm learning to trust the process, and to take absolute ownership for my own study habits.

In high school and college, I loved trying to blame a professor or the test if I didn't do well. When I walked out of the LSAT in September, regardless of how shaken up I was, I just kept thinking that the test was incredibly fair. When I got my score last week and it wasn't quite what I wanted, I was disappointed and truly shaken up for a couple of hours, but then immediately mapped out all my options. And I realized: the absolute worst case scenario is that I don't start law school next fall. And if that's my biggest problem, I'm going to be just fine.

I guess I'm probably not explaining this too well, but I wanted to say that the 7Sage community and program has totally changed my outlook, for the better. I am more patient, I am more logical, and I am more willing to work as hard as I can for an end goal I believe in. BIG thanks to everyone who has been encouraging, supportive, and knowledgable. I hope everyone else in the same boat is able to find some peace with their own outcomes as well----it's gonna be ok!

I did my first fully timed LR section today since the Sept test. I created a simplified skipping strategy...basically there were ones I knew and ones that confused me. I skipped the ones that confused me as soon as I realized I was spinning my wheels (total 4 questions). I finished the section in 25:43 (okay so sue me it's not exactly 25/25) which gave me AMPLE time to go back and address the ones I was confused on. I was able to tackle one of the 4 no problem but the other three still gave me pause. After struggling with them for roughly 10min or so I finished up and graded the section. -2 total.

My question is when you go back to the questions you skipped over in the initial 25 in 25 phase (had a rough answer but were not 100% on) how do you approach which ones you tackle first? I kind of skipped back and forth between all 4 because I was too scared to get entrenched in one and run out of time for the other 3.

Is there a method to identify which problems I should address first? Should I just go in order until I solve them and keep E bubbled for the rest if I don't get to them?

Hi, all. I'm curious to get your input about how you evaluate answer choices (ACs) on LR. Specifically, comparing the pros/cons of the two strategies below. If you're a "Sage" or have strong feelings on this topic, then I'm especially interested in hearing from you.

(1) Top-to-Bottom: Regardless of question type, start with reading A, decide to eliminate or keep, then repeat D-E. Finally, after process of elimination, selecting the best one among the remaining ACs.

(2) Scan-and-Select: Depending on question type, scan the ACs for what you think might be the correct one, read and evaluate, then repeat for the remaining ACs, always going from "most likely" to be correct to "least likely".

Of course, I have my own thoughts on both approaches, but for validity's sake, I don't want to bias your opinions one way or another. Here are some more factors to consider, as well:

So, what do you all think? Do you use one strategy over another? Do you use both, but under different conditions? Thanks in advance for anyone who has something helpful to contribute.

Goal: To further refine my process of elimination (P.O.E.) and answering skills for LR by building a crowd-sourced taxonomy of techniques.

How you can help me (and all other 7Sages): Contribute your favorite(s) below. Be sure to mention...

Here are two examples:

EXAMPLE A:

EXAMPLE B:

The more people that reply, the better we'll all get!

So I took an online Powerscore course from August to September in prep for the December course. Since taking the course, I've decided to push back my test date to February. I've also been foolproofing the LGs from PT 1-35 and and working on LR/LG sections. LG-taking a while but slowly seeing improvement. LR struggling much more than I want to... I inputted the past 11 PTS I've done into analytics and I'm avging -6. My analytics tells me I need to brush up on weaken/strengthen, flaw and assumption questions. I'm at this point where I'm struggling to figure out whether I should enroll in a 7sage minimum course to have access to the core curriculum re LR. Problem is I don't know how different it is from PS's curriculum seeing that I've looked at some excerpts on the 7sage blog. Is it worth it to spend more money? Or will the real improvement come from doing more PTs and BRs?

Would appreciate any and all help. Also would appreciate any tips on how others have made major improvements in LR.

Hey! Yes, that's us. The 18 percentile-40 percentile peeps. Let me tell you, THIS SUCKS. Let's get it out there once in for all- THIS SUCKS- but guess what? You can either take it and leave it as is, or regroup and retake, perhaps more than once..or twice. I graduated summa, took on all programs law school related as possible. President of this, senator of that..and then BOOM- LSAT SCORE. I got a 146 and thought that was bad. Sure enough, I got waitlisted/denied to the schools I thought I would get into. Then, I thought to myself it's fine I GOT THIS, and took the September. Well, turns out I magically lowered my score to a 142. I already signed up for the December, since I really just want to score a 150 and I'll be very happy. This is fine, however, the real question lies on what I'll be changing. What's the new game plan? Well, for starters I signed up for 7Sage (powerscore didn't work for me, obviously - but I know people who did amazing so I guess it just depends), I'm taking PT's and I'm putting in the time. Think to yourself, did I do the best I could? Should I try a new study plan/method? I hope I can make the 150's mark for the December, but I can already see admissions committee having a heart attack over my scores. We'll see what happens but just know we're on the same boat. Good luck to you, you're not alone.

Here's a great post at powerscore.com that explains how September's LSAT was more difficult than June's for high scorers, but far easier than June's for average to below average scorers.

http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/the-september-2017-lsat-scoring-scale-analyzed?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=57444776&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9YsWvkZwoBU7uqV0AwolOxJJa2yDrG4qra5WqLKaYiBdh_FywEDiNXhOEinnxVYYVX64E-ssLE1JHh8-g68trlQ-jmtw&_hsmi=57444776

After reading through a lot of online resources regarding whether it is appropriate to write an addendum explaining a score difference I'm still unsure of what to do because of the mixed opinions on this topic.

I went from a 159 in December 2016 to a 179 in September 2017 (even I find this unbelievable) and I'm not sure if I should write an addendum or how I should go about explaining this and how it will affect my chances of admissions. The only explanation I have is that I didn't study adequately for the first take because I misjudged the time I needed to set aside for the test while juggling academics, an internship, and other personal problems (i.e. family illness). I was very close to cancelling the day before but I went ahead with the test anyways hoping for the best because I wanted to make the deadlines for that admissions cycle. Consequently, I had to pass on that cycle, and I stopped all LSAT studying and instead focused on school. It wasn't until July (after graduation) that I started preparing for the LSAT again, and this time I had set aside the summer to study so that I would have adequate time to prepare. I was expecting a score somewhere in the mid-170s according to my PT average but never expected to score 179 and so now I'm wondering how to go about explaining and applying with a 20 point increase (especially if I'm now aiming for the top law schools because I know they might be more skeptical about multiple scores and such a large gap)?

Any help is appreciated :)

Hi All-

I am having trouble skipping questions in LR. I recognize when I am spinning my wheels about half the time but the other half it is when I look up and I have spent three minutes or more on a question that I realize that I need to skip it. Any tips on how to skip questions and when to come back to them? How about when you skip questions, how do you mark it on your bubble sheet?

Thanks in advance for any tips!

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Hello all -

I recently finished a course on Couresera.com called "Learning How to Learn." I know, it sounds crazy to think that you, a possible future attorney, need to learn how to learn. But I found this course to be EXTREMELY HELPFUL in terms of studying and taking the LSAT. This is a free course and you can finish it in an afternoon. I recommend it.

https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

Hey everyone,

Just got my LSAT score back and got a 171! I'm super pumped about it, it's expanded my school list considerably.

My GPA, however, might be a problem. It's below the median of most T14 schools (3.48). However, my major was in Civil Engineering from Rice University (not the easiest engineering school).

So probably my LSAT/engineering major is what will get me into schools. Are there any T14 schools that value LSAT more than GPA or value engineering majors more?

Thanks guys ... 7Sage is the real deal!

Is there any particular reason why the games chosen for the CC are chosen?

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a in-person tutor in Vancouver, Canada. Anyone know of a good tutor? I'd prefer in person over online. I'm looking to supplement my 7Sage studies, hoping to improve on my last score before the Dec test. Thanks!

Purely after finishing the LR core curriculum? then after that how much after drilling?

In Canada one can apply, and send their documents to the school, and once you get your lsat score, your school will make an admission decision. Is the US like this, too, or do you need a score BEFORE you apply?

Hey everyone,

Check out our new spreadsheet of law school medians. Someone on TLS did this a while ago, but didn't update it for 2017. We've also added application requirements for T20 schools. The sheet is free to anyone:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kE98659Gp_T828edsUZRKrhcxnK6xF1mR5RICN_FDYs/edit?usp=sharing

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View on site:

https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/top-law-school-admissions/

Hi, i was wondering if i can get some advice. I graduated with a 2.41 GPA which is very low, do I have any chances in law school if I get a high lsat score ? Im not dreaming of going to a very high rated Law school like Harvard or University of Toronto.Any decent medium rated will work for me. Im very confused, please advise me and let me know if you know anyone with a low gpa and high lsat score who got into a law school. thanks

Is mylsninfo up to date and the most accurate? And how can I use it so that I don't have to set a range of scores ...

Thanks!

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to thank you all for the great time I've had on 7Sage. I really enjoyed my time here and you all made learning the LSAT sooo much more bearable.

I took the September test and was happy to get 2 points higher than my average PT range before test day. I've been reading some of the forum comments from others who were disappointed with marks, and some who scored a lot lower than their average range from PTs. I'm not big on preaching advice, but if I could offer one parting piece of it, I will just say there is no way I would have performed well on test day if it wasn't for my long time meditation practice and martial arts practice, which have all been training to keep me focused and centered no matter what is happening around me. I've really come to believe that 50% of this test is your skills and competence (which is super important!) and 50% is your psychological mindset, especially on test day. For those re-taking or just starting to study, if you can find some form of meditation practice and start doing it consistently, I don't think you will regret it.

With that I will just say again how grateful I am to have met you all and wish you nothing but the best with your future law careers!