I know there are no contrapositive for some, and that contrapositive is just another way of stating the statement, so must be equivalent to the original statement.

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Then I started to think that then "some" does have a contrapositive, since we can change the place of variables.

For example, if we have a statement that "Some A are B: A(-s-)B"

Then the contrapositive (the equivalent statement) would be "Some B are A: B(-s)A"

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Do we say there is just another way to stating the original statement, but no contrapositive because there is no sign involved when creating an equivalent statement?

Then does that mean contrapositive requires statement to involve change of sign in terms of negativity or positivity?

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I hope I am making sense! Thanks all (3(/p)

If I am getting many of the problem sets in the Starter Package package correct,will I get less correct on the harder problems? Basically, I am wondering whether I am only getting them correct because they are "easy" or because I actually understand the material and would get them right regardless of the level of difficulty. Obviously, one way to find out is when I take the PT's....

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Hey all!

So currently I've only been doing 4 sectioned PT's and I want to take the September LSAT so I'm wondering if I should be doing 5 sectioned PTs instead (maybe even with the writing sample)? Or if I should just continue doing 4 sectioned PT's or maybe just do a couple of 5 sectioned PTs?

Do you all typically do 4 or 5 sectioned PTs?

Thanks everyone, hope you're all well :)

So after I'm done drilling I go through every question and I write down what went wrong. My list includes: did not see the definition presented in argument clearly, did not focus clearly, did not read the stimulus thoroughly". The question types are not my problem, it feels like I'm just not understanding what the question is saying under timed conditions. It's like the questions become alphabet soup. Untimed, I can correctly identify the right answer and I understand what the question stem is asking me.

Can anyone help give me tips on how I can hone in on the stimulus more and stop making these stupid mistakes?

Hello 7sage,

I am looking for a quiet location in NYC for a Preptest Exam this weekend, any suggestions?

Thank you.

I've been experiencing a lot of technical issues with the question bank. Regardless of how many questions I choose, only half will actually load. It's also not possible for me to choose multiple question types in LR.I tried google chrome, firefox, and safari.

Is anyone else having issues as well?

Good evening, all:

My time at 7Sage is coming to an end, as I’ll be taking my last LSAT retake on Saturday. I just want to thank the 7Sage staff and community for all their help, insight and transparency throughout my time studying. Before my account expires, to all the test takers, I just want to offer some advice. My score has increased since my diagnostic, but not only because of the sacrifices I’ve made for devoting most of my time to studying, but also, and more importantly in my opinion, is that I have made taking this test and studying for it exciting and fun. I think that everyone should be excited to take this test and not dread it when the time comes to take the actual test. This is the first step to becoming a lawyer, and regardless of what type of lawyer you want to be, this test is the first step, or one of the first, in getting you there. So for all my February test takers, and all the ones who are taking it after Feb, enjoy this experience. Enjoy taking the test. You are going to be reading and analyzing things your whole career now, so you might as well enjoy it and make it fun!

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Do any of the 7sage'ers know a tutor in the Buffalo area? (asking for a a friend). Just kidding asking for myself and I am in dire need of a tutor. Retake in September.

Appreciate any help!!

In the military we used this saying all the time, "Complacency kills". I just learned today that this saying is just as apt to the LSAT as it was in the military.

Today I decided I needed a new approach to LR. -5/-7 per section was just killing my score. I went back to the CC and scrolled through each type of question and compared it to my analytics. One question type popped off the page to me. "Method of Reasoning - 30% accuracy." These questions seemed fairly straight forward to me when I did the CC and during practice I did not miss much. How was I missing this many during PT's?

After looking at the ones I got wrong I realized what I was doing. Somewhere during my training for the LSAT my mind merged Flaw questions and Method of Reasoning questions into each other. I would approach a Method of Reasoning question trying to identify the flaw. While this doesn't sound super harmful, it actually was. I would get down to two answer choices and not be able to tell exactly why one was the flaw. I would feel time slipping by, guess and move on.

That's ridiculous! This type of question should be fairly straight forward why was it causing me to trip up!

Complacency.

I just assumed I knew the question types from each other because I've been doing this for about a year. I didn't even bother checking to make sure I was attacking each type of question correctly. Because of this Method of Reasoning just vanished from my mindset.

That is an absolute killer on the LSAT.

I saw @"Cant Get Right" post a couple days ago about how little mistakes inevitably are indications of bigger ones. If you feel stuck on a section, go back and review the most basic foundations. Something as little as this can cost you points.

As for me ------ Lesson learned.

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After getting my June score back a 158 (3rd try) and once again getting way below my PT averages (162-164) has left me questioning what I should do. I know for sure that I am better than what I scored on the exam, as every single one of my PTs leading up to that exam was significantly better than what I got on the actual exam. All of them taken in test-like conditions under strict timing. After taking a couple weeks to decompress I have decided that I want to try for it again in September. But I am looking to change up how I study, and a lot people that I have talked to have told me to try 7sage, as I am not the typical case going into this, I was wondering what your guy's opinions were, how I should be studying, how much I should be studying, and if 7sage is the proper channel for me to use.

For reference my June test I scored in each section compared to my averages on my PTs

RC -9/ Average on my PTs was -5 to -7

LR -16 /Average was -10 to -12- LR was actually going quite well but the second section I got the final 7 questions in a row wrong which significantly brought down my average.

LG -4 /Average was -0 to -2

Hi guys! I didn't do as well as I wanted to on the June lsat. I am looking to increase about 6-8 points by September, but I am kinda of stumped how to do so. I worked with a private tutor for almost a year and I feel like I have learned kind of up to my capacity, and now I am just irritated and do not know how to study from here. Any advice?

Hey! Can someone please help me out I'm not sure how to do BR for a full prep test. How do you go about doing BR for logic games for example. Thanks!

I was wondering if anyone may know why this may be the case but I noticed that for many of the "easy" logic games (based of the 7Sage Recommended time) I struggle to meet the 5-6 mins for easy games ( I take around 7 mins usually and sometimes 8) but for the harder games I am usually below 7 Sage's time by 2-3 mins. It seems like for me I am consistent on games in terms of time 'regardless' of the difficulty where it takes me roughly the same amount of time to complete a game. That said there are anomalies where I have spent 12-15 mins on a game and still can't figure it out or like 5 mins on a single question

Is there any other way to get it down to be faster on easier games aside from repeatedly doing it? Over the last week I have drilled only easy games and I think I have shaved off 30-60sec on average on re-doing the game a 3-4 days later but when I review I really find it hard as to where else I can save more time.

Also, does anyone else double check your work on games? I find that sometimes I make a careless errors like forgetting a rule existed for a specific question. I have also made fatal errors before like omitting an entire rule ( which I guess can't be helped aside from checking the rules one last time before making inferences). In all they probably cost me between 1-2 points on LG section and then another 1-2 LG question is wrong due either to time or just something more fundamental like those rule substitution questions

I'm really struggling with concepts of validity.... I've done the drills, but it's not making sense to me.

Looking for suggestions on how to best understand and apply validity to LR. Any suggestions on learning tips&tricks would be so helpful :)

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Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum. Can anyone please explain why D is wrong and E is correct?

TIA

So i saw someone else with this idea for CC, i hope he/she doesnt mind that i am borrowing the idea.

I am currently in my PT/ intensive phase. I have already finished the CC and foolproofed games 1-35.

If anyone is interested in picking LR and RC sections from 7-50s to intensively review and speak out the underlying principles, i would love to listen and exchange ideas.

I find that, when it comes to this test everyone has strengths and things they can bring to the table, i would love to hear and try to employ yours and reciprocate if i can.

I will be studying full time come the end of this week. Comment and PM if your interested in a phone call or chat

What is the first prep test with a comparative reading comp passge?

My first semester Freshman year GPA was around a 2.4, but after that semester my GPA has been a 3.8 which still leaves me with just barely over a 3.5 going into my Senior year... (My LSAT score is 164). Will schools take into account that I had a first semester screw up and have been doing great besides that semester, or will they just focus on the low 3.5 GPA.

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Hey Ya'll,

So it is official that my last day of work will be the end of the month! It has been a great 2 years and I've learned a lot, but sometime around the holidays I realized working crazy hours and the non-stop stress was hurting me from moving forward with my LSAT prep. I'll still be working part-time doing some random things, but I'll be able to kind of do those on my time frame.

So for those of you who study full-time, what does your daily schedule look like? I'm sure everyone's is different and possibly vary greatly, but I'm just looking for some ideas. I am kind of crazy and feel like I'd just study from like 9am-9pm and burnout. This is something I really want to avoid.

I'm aiming to take in September or December 17'. I'll admit that I'll postpone until I'm PT'ing consistently where I need to be. 174+

I was thinking something like this:

8am: Wake up, work out, shower, etc.

9am - 11am Prep (Not sure what at this point)

12pm-1pm: BREAK for lunch and just stay sane. I'm used to taking this time from work anyways.

2pm-5pm: Prep more.

I think after 5pm I'll take a break until 7pm or so and then maybe prep more.

I'm kind of lost because I've never really had a whole day that I can design myself and study when I want.

What do you guys think?

TYIA

I've taken about 7 or so full PTs thus far, in addition to going through the CC (for the most part--I'm taking in September so I needed to get started on PTs) and using 2 other books. Until now, taking random PTs from the 30s, 50s, and 60s, I've averaged around 165-166. I took PT52 just now and got a 176

WTF

Is PT52 just crazy easy or is this a breakthrough?

This morning I took my first timed PT---not even a full one (so minus the fifth and the writing section), but during the last section I felt extremely and absolutely exhausted. Both the first and the last sections were LR, but I knew I was processing information at a lower speed and efficiency in that last section. It's pretty atypical for me to feel so burned out in just 2 hours' of concentration so I think it might just be the result of eating less than usual for breakfast. So I decided I'd wait to do BR after an afternoon workout.

But, here I am, almost 8 hours later, still not able to start BR---even just the thought of it makes me cringe.

What is a recommended time between BR after PT? Are there downsides to pushing it back a day? How do I get over my BR anxiety?

Thanks!!!!