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Dear 7sage,
I just wanted to take the time to thank all of the members of 7sage that made it all possible- the people behind the scenes that scrutinize every detail to display a polished product. JY, thank you--along with all of the other founders. You guys took a risk once upon a time, and it yielded incredible results. You provided me with an amazing resource.
It's been a great year.
On my way to law school,
Juan P.
So some people are speculating that Deccember's LSAT will be between a -10 and -12 curve. My question is, how does LSAC determine their curve? Is it arbitrary or is it based on our collective performance?
Follow-up question: Are the scaled scores pegged to a percentile score? For example, is a 160 always equivalent to an 80 percentile? Or does it vary?
Hey guys, this isn't really relating to the LSAT but I'm trying to figure out where we input the community college we attended on the Credential Assembly Service. Under "Bachelor's Degree-Granting Institution," I inputted the University that I attended but I don't see where we have to input our community college attended. What did you guys put it under? Thanks!
Experimental LR: Bumblebees and sleep study, Valley United
Real LR 1: The tiktaalik fish
Can't remember questions from the second LR, my apologies
Edit: LR 2: Pet allergies?
Real Games: which office floor on what day, which train stations are out of service, something with H before R
Real Reading: Chinese dialects, Multiverse and movies, Social Darwinism, Comedians and Chefs
hello all ,
i just got off the December exam and I'm looking to create and effective schedule for the february test administration .
i originally went through self study with power score but I'm going to try and run through JY's full curriculum.
should i be taking the time to go through all of the material like a new tester? or should i just target my problem areas for a few weeks and then do some PT's again ?
thanks
Hi Guys,
As a general rule of thumb to score for a 170, for RC, at the current level, I can get level 1-2 difficulty -0; level 3 -0~-1; Level 4: -1~-2; Level 5: -2~--3.
How can you improve level 5 question answering accuracy. During review, I will spend almost 1 hour on the passage, and looking at it, I just have no idea how to not miss the question when under timed exam.
Should I get a tutor like Nicole to help out? Or how can you shore up those points?
Hey everyone!
First off, to all you Dec. LSAT takers - WE DID IT. It was hard. It sucked. I'm over it.
So now to the game plan - what are you guys thinking? Any Feb re-takers out there?
I personally am honestly not sure what to do right now. I took the Dec. LSAT last year and feel like I am in the same boat again. Felt prepared, got hard hard games thrown at me, freaked out, had to guess, ran out of time. Let anxiety get to me throughout the rest of the test - bombed.
I do not want to delay another year. Been there done that, want to start law school. So I am debating whether or not its even worth taking the February LSAT. I have terrible test anxiety, and this seems to be a pattern on the LSAT that I get thrown off, lose my cool and can't seem to get my shit back together.
So I'm thinking that if I have a less than stellar score this time around again, and take February, get thrown off again and get another mediocre score, I will have lost the advantage of still being a little earlier into the application cycle.
What do you guys think?
I know applications are currently still at an all-time low, so at least we have that on our side, and it's still early-ish into the application cycle.
Hey all, First off, thanks to all of you in this great community for being such an awesome resource and support network for this process of getting to law school!
So, I just sat for the December LSAT, and like others who are posting, Logic games 3 and 4 were a bit difficult (disappointing, because games are usually my -0 to -2 section). I ended up having to semi-blind guess on at least five questions in that section. On top of that, I really let anxiety get to me and didn't get much sleep at all. I felt nauseous all up until the experimental games section (3rd section for me) which ironically calmed me down by being so difficult that I was sure I was just gonna cancel.
My PT range for my last five tests were all in the 168-171 range, so I was pretty hopeful about being able to at least have a shot at my goal school of Cornell, but now I'm really not so sure. Honestly RC and LR are a blur for me, I could've knocked them out of the park, I could've failed miserably. SO, I'm considering a February re-take, with an emphasis on mental heath, but, are my chances for Cornell dashed? They have a deadline of Feb. 1st. However, they say that after this point, they will still accept apps, but admissions will be on "available seats only". This sounds like T14 language for, "98% chance sorry too late". My other schools will work for a February LSAT, but I'm still nervous even for them because of all i've heard about February being so late in the cycle.
I really don't think I can wait another cycle, doing so would cause some major family drama and involve making some really tough choices financially. So, thoughts?
I was wondering how everybody takes these. I find the lack of space not to be problematic per-say, but I want to stay used to the 2 page format. I know 7sage used to have the old PT PDFs split up, so they all had the 2 page format. Anyone know how I could split my PDFs so they would be formatted like that?
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If the former, join a discussion led by Sage Daniel on the LSAT “Do’s” he wishes he had done a heck of a lot earlier in his prep, as well as the “Don’ts” he did that ushered him into plateaus, burnout, and underperformance. Understanding the logic inherent to the LSAT is obviously key to doing well on the test but so is strategy and mindset. This webinar will tackle specifically the ways you can properly direct yourself towards reaching your LSAT potential.
Thu, Dec 8, 2016 7:00 PM EST
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Any current graduate students that's studying for the LSAT? What is your weekly schedule like? Do you feel that you are getting adequate LSAT prep time? By the way, I'm planning on taking either the June or September 2017 LSAT.
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I took the Dec. 3rd LSAT at CUNY Law in Long Island City, NY. Here is a brief synopsis of the testing facility experience:
- The location is right next to a subway stop for the E, M, and 7 trains.
- The building was clean, modern, and well-equipped.
- Approx. 120-150 people showed up and were split into 3 different rooms, based on last names.
- I was in a 2nd floor lecture hall that had long desks (no partitions) and they sat students in every-other-chair. There was plenty of room for my test booklet, answer sheet, and elbows.
- The room was quiet, comfortable, and ideal in every way for test-taking.
- The proctors were a group of 4-5 older women. They were prompt, courteous, and did everything correctly and by-the-book.
- I will likely re-take in June of 2017 and will definitely choose this testing site again.
I hope that helps, everyone. Good luck on future LSATs.
Folks, I am finally done with the LSAT!!! But that means I need to shift gears and start to focus on the second part of my JD/MBA application - the GMAT. What courses do people recommend? Are there any good free resources out there?
I haven't done a ton of research yet since I was really focused on the LSAT and I've only heard of Manhattan GMAT. ANybody has any thoughts on this company? Are there better courses/resources out there?
Thank you for any insight!
Would you take the test here again?
Yes! In fact I have registered for the Feb 2017 exam at the same location. I can't really imagine a more perfect LSAT test location (maybe something that's closer to me?). I had a good experience here on test day.
Proctors:
They were friendly, fair, and mostly competent. The main proctor in my room did forget to do a 5-minute warning on the first section, but I have no reason to believe this would be an issue in the future.
Facilities:
The campus and the building looked brand new. Everything was comfortable. The bathrooms were located directly outside our classroom, which made things less confusing during the break.
What kind of room:
Lecture-type class room, with rows of long tables. It was very well lit with natural light filtering in through the windows.
How many in the room:
I think there were about 50-60 test takers in my room.
Desks:
Long desks rather than individual desks, which allowed for plenty of space. Chairs were very comfortable and their height was easily adjustable.
Left-handed accommodation:
I can't speak to this, but given what the desks looked like I think it was probably good?
Noise levels:
No problem here - it was quiet, with no noticeable outside noise. One test taker had a cough.
Parking:
I didn't drive to the site so can't speak to this.
Time elapsed from arrival to test:
We started the test at about 9:30am. I arrived a little before 8am, and check-in began at 8:30am.
Date[s] of Exam[s]:
Saturday, December 3, 2016
Proctors:
Good, quick, efficient.
Facilities:
Pretty much brand new building, brand new desks, chairs etc. In Tribeca, which means it's pretty much silent on a Saturday morning in the area
What kind of room:
Open plan lecture hall
How many in the room:
Around 40
Desks:
Full large rectangular tables, one to each student. Couldn't have run out of space for my test materials if I had tried.
Left-handed accommodation:
Huge desks to each person
Noise levels:
Low
Parking:
New York...
Time elapsed from arrival to test:
One hour
Irregularities or mishaps:
None
Other comments:
I originally landed with Pace as my test center, but switched here because it was four blocks from my apartment. I would highly recommend this test center for anyone taking their test in New York. Made the whole test so much better to have a full table, ample space in the room, and low noise levels.
Would you take the test here again?
Ha - would I take the test again...? But yes, if forced to retake the LSAT this is the only center I would take it at now.
Date[s] of Exam[s]:
December 2016
If you took the September LSAT how do you feel you did on December? Better or worse?
I took the test at a large, public university. I estimate a couple hundred people were tested in two large auditoriums with ample table space for each test taker.
I was one of the lucky twenty-five sent to a classroom with the little L-shaped desks that fold up in order for you to stand or sit. The folding ones are smaller than those used in high school, and they also force you to lean up and hunch over whenever writing. The entire writing space was approximately one test booklet tall, and 16 inches across. An open, unfolded test booklet would not fit onto the desk. Having assisted in administration of secondary school national tests, I am fairly certain that the room also failed to meet the minimum distance between test takers requirement.
As several other test-takers pointed out, it was literally impossible for us to adhere to the instructions that nothing should be below desk level while taking the test.
When several people complained, the test director came in and said, "I know you don't have a lot of room and that it's tight. I get complaints about this room every time, but it's the only room I could get in the building. If you want to cancel, I'll let you." This is basically, 'Screw you. What are you going to do about it?', and the fact that he alluded to previous administrations complaining about it only made me more livid.
I had to constantly flip the folded test booklet back and forth, as did everyone else in the room. It did not matter on LR and RC, but it noticeably slowed progress on LG. I would have gladly driven an hour to get an adequate testing center, but I know I was not one of the last twenty-five registrants. What is the best way to inform LSAC that this university of 30,000 needs to be given less testing slots, and the local director either replaced or retrained in the importance of this test to those taking it?
Everyone who tested in this room before December '16 dropped the ball and let me down, and I don't want to do the same for future test takers.
Hi everyone,
I took the recent LSAT in London. I had two LG sections on my test, and I'm currently trying to work out which one of two was the experimental section. One was moderately difficult, I finished it without much of a problem. However, the 3rd and 4th games in the other LG were ridiculously difficult (similarly to the US LSAT with two LGs - weird coincidence). I remember the 3rd game involving seven Mechanics and Inventors (not a 100% sure about the name of the second group). I don't remember much else. Please let me know if you would happen to have any information on which of the two LG sections of the London LSAT was the real one, and which one was experimental.
Thanks a lot,
Piotr
Just thought I would check in and see how everyone felt about their exam. I took in Sept and felt much more calm that time. Today I was sooooooo nervous physically that I felt like most of the test was me battling through a weird mental haze.
Overall though I feel okay. I had a misread on BOTH of my LG sections that cost me some time but I think I was able to recover somewhat. Luckily the one I was most worried about was experimental but even then I may have done better on that one (who knows).
My frustration with RC was that I felt some of the summary questions were weirdly mostly on topic but there didn't seem to be one that was definitely on topic. Those always frustrate me.
It is great to have it in the rearview mirror!
Proctors: There were three proctors. Two females and one male. The male proctor actually had his phone on and it started buzzing and ringing in the middle of the test....(and it took him a while to get to it) I thought this was very unprofessional and extremely disruptive.
The two female proctors were very friendly, forthcoming and efficient.
Facilities: Roomy. It was an auditorium lecture-style hall.
What kind of room: Lecture hall.
How many in the room: Fits probably over 100, but we were about 50 or so.
Desks: small, rectangular tables. Extremely uncomfortable.
Left-handed accommodation: Not sure.
Noise levels: Mostly quiet.
Parking: Good for students, terrible for non-students. Decal-parking close by only. I had to have my boyfriend drive me there and pick me up.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: Half hour.
Irregularities or mishaps: The room was VERY hot. Everyone was complaining that it felt like a freaking sauna in there after our break. It was seriously awful. People started to take their clothes off and it was distracting.
Other comments: I took the LSAT in that same room in '15 and did not find that the room got that hot last year. I have no clue what happened on Saturday, but it felt like they were trying to fry us (or our brains).
Would you take the test here again? Not if I don't absolutely have to.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015, December 2016.
Hey guys,
I wrote the December LSAT but i indicated that i might be writing the February lsat on my OLSAS applications (Canada). Does this mean they won't review my application until after the February results come out? Does anyone know?
Hello everyone... quick question...
I am starting to (finally) be at the point where I can get most questions on LG correct. With inn out and grouping games I am starting to get within the target range with the right accuracy....
However, for some reason, there are certain sequencing games where I just take like 3-4+ minutes too long to do them. What's helped me with speed with other games is really pre-phrasing the answer choices and knowing where to look on some games when the question is a "could" vs a "must." However, I'm still slow with certain of these games. There is just too much of me writing things out (like multiple hypothetical game boards with multiple options on each) and not enough ways to anticipate the answer choices (or maybe I'm thinking about it wrong?)
Wondering how you guys got quicker on the sequencing games ?
Thanks, love the forums here. I should post more but you guys are awesome and give such great advice and I can't match it.
Hey guys! I know a lot of you recently took the LSAT, so if you'd like to leave a review of your test center, here's a basic template you can copy.
Please make sure you're making a new thread and not posting below, since people may miss it. :)
-Make a new discussion post in the "Test Center Reviews" category and title it like this:
**[Test Center Review] Test Center, City, State/Country**
-- Include the following categories (feel free to copy/paste):
Proctors:
Facilities:
What kind of room:
How many in the room:
Desks:
Left-handed accommodation:
Noise levels:
Parking:
Time elapsed from arrival to test:
Irregularities or mishaps:
Other comments:
Would you take the test here again?
Date[s] of Exam[s]:
Examples of some well-written test center reviews:
--https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/8859/test-center-review-cedarville-university
Hey guys! Here's the official December LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the December 2016 LSAT here!
Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:
We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the December '16 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.
If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.
The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.
TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT in detail!
Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:
Have fun discussing!
