How accurate do you guys think this site is in terms of people posting their actual UGPA/LSAT score?

I've been looking at this website and have been contemplating whether or not to buy the program, and if so, which to buy. I know I am asking the 7Sage crew and I hope no one is offended by my question - I'm just trying to figure out what may work best for me, while also keeping in mind cost! That said, I am impressed with the sense of community and the approach of this site, so I'm definitely leaning towards getting a course/program, I just don't know which one.

I did well studying on my own, using Powerscore & Kaplan materials as well as prep-tests, but I never did the Blind Review method, which I first heard about on here, and I think it is a good way to look at studying for the LSAT. I'll definitely implement. Anyways, I was practicing at about 168-172 but I admit that I wasn't always as strict as I should I have been with timing myself, so its possible I went over a few minutes on a few exams, which could have bumped up my score. Unfortunately, I had an anxiety attack prior to my June 2016 test and didn't sleep for two days. I've never had test anxiety and the experience was totally foreign, but it is was it is. I got a 159. Totally bummed, but was fearing even worse. I've gone back and taken parts of the June test and performed way better, even acing the LG part (which I often do, but got a -6 on the June 2016 test). I blame the lack of sleep and test anxiety, but I still know there are skills I can improve on and dedication/hard work with a good prep-course would do me good.

Basically, I feel like I know a lot of the core principals, but need some reinforcement. Which program would be best? I am retaking in either Sept or December for 2017 admission.

Any advice? I'm not a beginner, but I also don't think I need to do the entire full course. Looking for some input. Thanks, guys!!!

Hi All,

I will be writing my LSAT in September and, hopefully, will be applying to law schools shortly afterwards to start law school in Fall 2017.

Some context: I suffer from a chronic illness that has impacted my grades in undergrad. I had more hospitalizations/ER visits than I had semesters in all of my undergrad program. However, as I learned to cope with my illness, my grades improved. All in all, I ended up with a 3.23 CGPA and a 3.5 in my last two years. I also worked at 3 of the largest banks while finishing undergrad as an intern (In Canada, we call them co-op programs, which are tough to get in and stay in). After finishing undergrad, I have worked in various capacities in finance, marketing, and branding at some of the largest Canadian and Multinational companies. I am currently working in strategy for a large packaged goods company. I also volunteer in my free time with various charities and have recently been asked to join the Community Advisory Council at the busiest hospital in Canada after I stood up for the rights of some patients whose care was being mis managed. All in all, I have had some great experiences during and after undergrad.

I have talked to all law schools in Canada, who have advised me to apply in their "Access Category". Basically, they have spaces reserved for people who have had to deal with extraordinary situations which has impacted their undergrad performance. I will need to fill a separate section in the application reserved for people applying in the access category. I will also need to provide documentation as proof. I will still need to be competitive to get into law schools, however, they will consider my condition before judging my undergrad performance.

I was wondering if the US law schools have any similar categories? Any help would be great and appreciated.

Thanks for your time. Hope you have a great weekend.

Hi 7Sagers,

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The presentation will probably last about twenty minutes. After that, I’ll take questions about any aspect of the admissions process.

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Can we reliably use the negation test to rule out answer choices that strengthen/are sufficient for the argument?

e.g. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-4-question-16/... Negating "less likely" = equal or greater than, which doesn't wreck the argument.

Hey 7sage!

When will the explanations be available for the June 2016 exam? Also, will they be included if I bought a couple extra months on my ultimate pack? Thanks!

Hey guys, I just wanted to let y'all know my general situation and ask for advice if you have any. I'm in between my junior and senior years of undergrad at Mississippi State with an anticipated Law School start date of Fall 2017. I will be graduating with a B.A. in History this December. I started studying for the LSAT in March. I went through Mike Kim's LSAT trainer, and I have a decent grasp LR (-4 or -5 per PT, I know I can improve) but I'm really struggling with Logic Games (-12 or more per PT, mainly as a result of time), which is how I arrived at 7sage. I was registered for the June LSAT, but was forced to cancel after a death in my family the week of the test. Is the the 3 months before the September test enough time to improve to -3 or -4 on Logic Games? My target schools are Alabama (Median of 163) and scholarship at Florida (157 median, 160 75th percentile). My highest PT so far has been 159/160. My UGPA is 3.93. I'm about 13% of the way through the core curriculum.

To all my lovely fellow Canadians on here...Happy Canada Day!!!

No better way to celebrate Canada Day then to do some inference / must be true questions, followed by some Poutine in the afternoon !!

So I took the LSAT for the second time (cancelled my first time) in June and I got a 160, a few points lower than I was expecting. I have a 3.5 GPA and I am an URM (son of Mexican immigrants). I have very good LORs and a pretty strong resume as well as a nontraditional back story. I am aiming to get into a top 20 law school with a scholarship and I am wondering if I am delusional for thinking that I have a shot of that happening with my current stats.

I am considering retaking in September but I don't know if it would be more trouble than it's worth. For example, if I were to retake (this would be my third time) and I got a score that was very similar (or god forbid, lower) than a 160, would that just look bad? I don't want to go through the laborious process of studying for this damn thing just to make myself an even less competitive applicant. Thanks for any input!!

Edit: I am also currently working 45 hours a week and I would be doing that leading up to the Sept LSAT. That could end up being beneficial since I was doing nothing but studying LSAT for the months leading up to the June one and I felt really burned out.

Hello everyone,

As we know, the June 2016 scores were released. This was my second time taking it and my score DROPPED to an embarrassingly low figure.

I was scoring mid 160s on my practice tests, which is higher than my first LSAT score, so I thought I had made some progress. The highest I've ever scored was a 170 on a PT, but I've never been able to score that again, even on the same test. Normally I score perfectly on LG even on timed PTs, but LG was very difficult for me on this June LSAT. I ran out of time to even start reading my last RC passage, although RC is my weakest spot. And as for LR, I always think I understand it, but I must be making the same mistakes.

I've already started thinking whether law isn't for me. But before I give up my law aspirations completely, I will be trying one last time.

If anyone could point to any retake study schedules, please post. I was using the lawschooli and 7sage study schedules but I was wondering if there were specifically any retake schedules? Or for anyone who has taken the LSAT 2-3 times, pointers to give so I know how and on what to focus my time?

Thank you and congrats to everyone who is happy with their score!!! You did it! :)

So I am a bit lost about what I should do. I got a 158 on my first LSAT in June, it was an 11 point increase from my 147 diagnostic. I attend Fordham University and have a 3.3 GPA. The reason for my low GPA is because I am epileptic ( I have uncontrollable seizures), my first two years at Fordham I barely kept a 3.0 because I was in and out of the hospital and once the office of disabilities got involved my GPA drastically increased my junior year. My fall semester of junior year I earned a 3.918 and my spring semester I earned a 3.6. This was a drastic increase especially because I learned how to manage my time especially with my disability. I was thinking about writing an addendum about my GPA explaining my situation. I was wondering should I re-take my LSAT in September, my dream school is Columbia University but I would be more than happy to attend schools such as Emory University, Georgia State, ASU (Arizona State University- O'Connor), Boston University, or Boston College. I come from an unprivileged background (grew up in poverty) and I am a minority ( middle eastern). Please help me!!! I am considering taking a re-take of the LSAT in September and I want other peoples opinions before July 4th, because July 5th I hope to begin studying again if I decide to take it over. Really need some input!! Thank You!! =)

Studying for the LSAT has been a daunting process to go through alone! I could realize use someone to study with who understands the struggle!

For this particular question, I'm not really sure why answer choice B is correct over answer choice C. In the LSAT, do motives usually apply to reasons relating to self-interest, such as profit-motive? Additionally, aren't presuppositions or assumptions not stated in the stimulus. Maria seemed to be directly attacking Lucien's intermediary conclusion that homelessness is caused by people's unwillingness or inability work.

So uhhh, should I be signed up for the CAS on LSAC already? Or is that something I can wait to do? I really am clueless about all this stuff, because I've been focusing on LSAT LSAT LSAT the whole time so far.

Anybody have any ideas on what the service is, when I should sign up for it, etc.?

Has anyone taken the LSAT without finishing the course? How did that go? I don't think I'm going to have time to finish, but I would like to.

Hi all,

I've been spared from receiving spam emails from law schools because I never released my info to law schools via LSAC's Candidate Referral Service (CRS). Now that I have my score, I'm wondering whether I should do so just to be safe -- though I'm targeting t-7 schools and I don't think they need to use CRS to recruit. Still, I suppose there's no risk, except annoying spam. What say you all?

Hey everyone,

Slightly underperformed on my June exam so I'll be back at it in Sept. I just checked Cambridge's site for their LG pdf bundle and I guess it got taken down with all the PTs during the lawsuit.

Is there anywhere I can still get pdfs of all LGs? Or could I buy them in sets from somewhere?

Thanks!

I just got my score for the June exam. 159. Not happy. I was practicing at 172… so you can imagine my disappointment. I got about 3 hours of sleep in two days because of nerves, I guess. And the tropical storm hit our testing facility, knocking out the electric and causing a big commotion. I got totally frazzled. Because I was practicing so well, I was hoping to take it once and move on. Obviously, I have to retake.

Anyways, I am left with retaking in September or December, wanting to apply for Summer/Fall 2017. Problem is that I will be in Europe for all of September (my brother is getting married in Italy). I can take the exam in Rome, which leaves December if I am still not happy with my performance. Or, I can wait until December, but that means applying later than I had wanted (I know a lot of schools make scholarship determinations as they receive applications, and are on rolling schedule), with a worst case of taking it again in February.

Long story short – has anyone taken the exam abroad while travelling? I know it isn’t ideal, but I have limited options. I can study from now until Sept 4 full-time and study part-time while I am abroad, as needed until the Sept 24 exam, but I have no idea what to think about taking it abroad. I am in Europe until October 5. Being in the middle of vacation may be good for me (given that I think my poor performance was due to anxiety and stress, in addition to storm), but it could also totally suck.

My GPA was 3.86 from a good undergrad but I’m very worried the LSAT will hinder my scholarship opportunities!

Any input? Anyone ever do this before? I know it’s not the norm, but I’m sure someone has had a similar situation…

I have drafted two personal statements... and I am unsure of with which to proceed. As of right now, I am not financially able to purchase the package to get David's help but I hope to be able to before application submission this fall, so meanwhile... would any of you like to take a look at my two personal statements and tell me if you think I should go with one or the other? They are in extremely rough formats, and I just would like input on which one to proceed with using before I spend the time on one or the other in editing, revising, polishing, etc etc etc. One is a story of an event in my life where I made a difficult decision. The other is basically about me and what lead me to where I am. The latter is so cliche` and I really want to stand out (as we all do). I plan on doing a diversity statement about myself and single parenthood, so I feel like if I use the PS that speaks about "me" and single parenthood, that the diversity statement is then redundant, so that leads me to think the event story is better to go with, if I do the DS.

Do you keep them? Throw them away? I'm not sure what to do. I usually don't go back to them, and try to get a fresh copy instead. But I was just wondering what you all do with yours. Thanks!

Hello,

I have 3 withdraws on my transcripts. Two are the same class, its a hard class and I first tried taking it during an already hard semester, and that did not work out. The second time was this summer, and the professor cancelled class a lot and the first test came back and I flunked. At this point, I could stay in this class get a c, or I could drop it again and have 3 w's. What should I do? This would be a non punitive w. My gpa is high, so a C would make it drop a considerable amount. I just do not know what to do. Which would look worse 3 w's with 2 coming from the same class, or a c. I would rather drop, but just not sure how law schools look at that.

Anyone have any insights on how this cycle might shape up? Is the number of law school applicants on the rise or is it falling? Will schools be more flexible when it comes to splitters/reverse-splitters? Did the number of June test takers increase, decrease, or stay about the same?

I've tried researching but I haven't found much. Mike Spivey did mention though in a tweet that he'll be coming out with some predictions for the 16/17 cycle within the next few weeks. Hoping someone here may have some info.

I just noticed I have access to this. Where can I access? TIA

Hey everyone,

I just planned out my PT schedule from now until the September exam. I have been studying for 6 months and doing tests for about the past month or so. I'm hoping to take 28 PTs between now and September. I'm on track for two a week, since I want to cover all the 50s, 60s, and 70-77. I'll start taking three a week in September with Blind Review of course.

Does anyone think this is a good idea? Should my tests increase or decrease in the final month? I do not want to burn out but I also want to make sure I'm running on quality adrenaline/confidence going into the final week. My last PT would be September 21st, which would give me Thursday for a final Blind Review and Friday for rest. If anyone has any tips, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Hi, just wondering if anyone has any advice with this section? I've gone through the 7sage curriculum and also have done the powerscore bibles. I'm generally getting -0/-2 for critical reading and usually perfect on logic games. The reasoning section is completely killing my score, with me missing -5 to sometimes even -11 on one section. I've taken 4 prep tests and even after blind review sometimes I just don't fully understand. Generally after reading an explanation I have a base level of understanding, but I don't think it's thorough. When each problem is presented and gone through in 7sage and powerscore I understand them and I've gotten the practice ones right...but when it comes to the actual prep test it goes terribly.

I'm not sure if I should just keep going with prep tests or blind review or...if there's something else I should be studying/looking for before that? I don't want to waste tests and feel that there must be something at the base I'm not comprehending well enough.

Thanks!