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I recently did a preptest (PT 42) and scored within my average score (Which is good!) but usually my BR score is 10 points higher (which is always encouraging) but this time around my BR score was only 5 points higher. When I looked through to see what went wrong, I noticed that a large amount of the questions I had originally gotten correct under exam conditions, I then got wrong through blind review.

-I'm just curious if this is a common occurrence?

-Have I reached a point where I can intuitively tackle questions under timed conditions but when I stop to try to figure things out without time limitations then I over think things? -- If so, I'm not sure how to deal with that (a bit of a gamble to hope that my intuition is sound)

Also, I've noticed my RC sections have consistently been horrible ranging from -13 to -11.

-What are everyone's advice on drilling RC?

-I'm trying to use the memory method but I'm not sure how much annotation I'm allowed to do as I read.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Hey everyone,

I'm having difficulty determining how the conclusion of the passage is the conclusion. I thought the conclusion was "I was late to my meeting" because it's preceded by a reasoning. I thought the hypothetical conditional "If the maintenance had been done a different day" is a premise because it's trying to justify the reason why the person was late.

Can someone help me figure this out? I'm noticing that I'm having a hard time identifying conclusions for this test (I also got S3 Q. 17 "identify the conclusion" wrong).

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-78-section-1-question-23/

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So I'm just wrapping up learning the four basic groups and have a question on groups three and four. I know it doesn't matter which one you pick as long you stick to the rule(G3=Sufficient and G4=Necessary), but for speed purposes I created my own rule and wanted to know if there was ever a chance that rule could be wrong. So I always do the first idea and make it the sufficient indicator and the second the necessary. For the obvious reason that that would put them on the same side of the "arrow" consistently. But could I be setting myself up for a mistake? Does anyone else do this rule?

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    With a little over 20 days from the test I have hit a wall. Every time I sit down to do a PT, I simply cannot. I can't seem to focus. I'll do the first section, get the second and my concentration is gone. I found myself just drawing blanks. I may have lost a little motivation to sit down for 3 hours. I seem to do find drilling sections at a time. Has this happened to anyone? Any ideas how to combat this and quickly?

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    Well, I have no idea what this is, but I'm running out of ideas.

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    I wonder why there are no explanation for early PTs. For example, I didn't find the LR explanation for PT1 and PT2.

    I 'm doing LR by type after watching the video. Anyone knows/

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    So I am scheduled for September, but lately I have been having such inconsistent PT's. From 147-163 within the past three weeks. BR's only seem to make me more uncertain. Goal is 160. Averaging about 156. Any advice?

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    Just wondering, how many PTs are you guys doing now that we have 3 weeks left to go ...

    I don't want to burn myself out and I want to actually absorb what I'm learning, however I haven't done too many PTs (maybe like 5 full ones, even though I've been studying part-time since March) so would a PT every day be too much (1 timed, the next day untimed and so on) .... or should I stick to 2-3 per week? Also, I'm planning to study 8-10 hours a day until test day.

    I started with a 140, last PT was 151, aiming for 160 on the 24th. Too ambitious? My part-time studying hasn't allowed me to fully absorb the material which is why I haven't increased my score as much as I wanted to :(

    Thank you for any responses!

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    Hey guys,

    I've had this thing with making copies of all pts. It's gotten really bad. I've ripped all of the pages from all my 10 Actual books and filed them along with 2 copies of every pt for actual and br. I feel like it's just better to not think about it and have it all there. It's been a long process but im finally finished making copies.

    At first I got this for drilling

    http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/1378288/Office-Depot-Brand-19-Pocket-Expanding/

    Then this for future pt's

    http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/1396738/Office-Depot-Brand-Expanding-File-Case/

    But it's looking like im going to get this.

    http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/287154/Bankers-Box-StorFile-Basic-Strength-65percent/

    Trial and error baby. When im done, I'll recycle it all, or donate it. How are you guys filing?

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    Would it be possible to have a copy of the LSAT map? It's a great reference, however I would really like to have a PDF version printed so I can reference it while I listen to each lesson. I know it would help me piece together all the lessons better as I am going through the core curriculum.

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    Hi,

    I'm not sure why A is wrong...if the number of consumer increased between before the ad. is aired and after the ad. is aired, wouldn't that explain the ad. is actually effective?

    Or...I thought it shows evidence of what is discussed in the stimulus.

    Or is it wrong because it just kind of reapeating what is discussed in the argument and the increasement could be a coincedence?

    Thank you

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-3-question-02/

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    I stupidly ignored the updates about changing my photo before the deadline, because I uploaded the same photo that I used for my June take and figured that it would be fine for September. Just now, I realized that it doesn't conform to the 2x2 box (I'm assuming that this is a new guideline). Now that I can't change my photo, does anybody have any recommendations about what I should do? Im tempted to ignore it, but I know that that is most likely a bad call.

    Thanks in advance.

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    I am taking the LSAT on September 24 and am currently hitting a little higher than my desired score. I have been taking 2 tests a week (Wednesday and Saturday). I plan on keeping to this routine until Saturday September 17, which will be the last PT I take. I am curious if, and when, it is a good time to stop scoring PTs before test day?

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    In PT66.4.10, the question refers to "hydrogen and oxygen" then towards the end it refers to "nitrogen and oxygen". At first I thought that's where the flaw in the argument was, but turns out it was completely irrelevant. And the context of the problem makes me think LSAC accidentally made a mistake here. What do you guys think? I know it's completely trivial but I thought I would enjoy a good chuckle at LSAC's typo lol

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-66-section-4-question-10/

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    7sage has helped me so much with content, but there seems to be one issue I can't find discussed anywhere: does anybody have timing problems and go TOO FAST? In order to get better with the LSAT, I took my practice tests untimed until I started scoring 90% or better. Since then, I have started timing myself. I have noticed that for logical reasoning and reading comprehension, I am finishing sections with anywhere from 10-15 minutes left! My accuracy is not bad, usually 3-4 wrong in each section, but when I go back and check my work, I realize many of my mistakes were stupid. No matter how hard I try to slow down, I still finish these 2 sections (games take me the full time) early. Any tips on how to really slow down and take the full time? Has this happened to anyone else before? Thanks again to the whole community for your help throughout this process.

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    My apologies if this has been discussed better here before and I'm just missing it! Everything I've been able to find specifically on the 7Sage Discussion boards has been pretty wishy-washy in general about it, so I figured I'd post.

    I know that success using particular “methods” (e.g., specific notation systems, margin-writing, etc.) in RC is typically pretty idiosyncratic and that what works for one person might be entirely unhelpful for another, but I want to sing the praises of a tool that I haven’t really seen suggested too much elsewhere (and in fact, that I’ve seen a few actively discourage):

    The highlighter! Hear me out.

    I didn’t even realize it was acceptable to use a highlighter during the actual test until recently because it doesn't seem to get talked about much, and I definitely did not expect it to help me, but it totally has. If you're like me and feel like the passages are a blur and the answers sometimes feel like total shots-in-the dark because you're so rushed and stressed, this honestly might help you get a little bit more certainty and confidence.

    I’ve been putting my pencil down during my initial read and focusing just on understanding the passage and its structure, and then going through with the highlighter during a much briefer second pass and marking up everything that seems like it’ll be helpful to have for the questions (names, dates, details, shifts—anything that seems like answer-fodder, really). For me, this serves two purposes: 1) it quickly reacquaints me with the passage's overall structure in light of having just finished it (which can be quite helpful for a tricky main point question), and 2) it (obviously) makes the information easier to locate quickly.

    It might just be me, but I feel like—since I've been staring solely at #2 pencil chickenscratch and black ink for months and months during prep and it can all start to feel like extraneous clutter at a certain point—the yellow of the highlighter stands out and really helps me organize the info visually. I’ve gone from missing 5-6 per RC section (on the newer tests) and sometimes not finishing on time to only about 2-3 misses on average (and in time, even with spending about 4 minutes upfront on the passage). For someone trying to go from consistent 169ish to consistent 172ish, these 2-3 extra points are huge for me!

    Now I WILL GRANT YOU the possibility that this is all placebo and my actual improvement might simply stem from increased familiarity with RC (and no doubt that's a big part of it too), but the highlighting method really has, at least at this stage of prep for me, helped me feel more confident about my understanding of the passage. It feels like having a great setup for a logic game and being able to breeze right through the questions.

    Anyway, if you're banging your head against the wall with RC and wrote off using a highlighter because you thought you couldn't spare the time, I'd say give it a shot! If it doesn't work for you, that's okay—but maybe it will!

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