The very thing I was worried about happened yesterday.. T_T...

I got 3 points lower on the December retake than my initial September test. (160 -> 157)

What's going to happen now?

I have no intention of retaking the LSAT anymore..

Do I need to write an addendum for this drop or is it negligible?

Will I get a worse chance at schools that I'm applying to (T40-50ish schools) because of this drop?

Any words of encouragement will be appreciated...

Creating this thread to quell some of the anxiety. ;) Will be updated when it's actually Grey Day.

Feel free to chat here about it.

Only did practice tests leading up for prep. Just signed up for 7sage after the Dec. 2016 test. I'm looking to study the 7sage program and increase my points by 5-10 to bump up into the 150's. My weakness was spread across the sections as I averaged similar scores in each sections. My Logical Reasoning scores were the highest with a score of +18 in one section (the section that saved me & made up for my mishaps in the others). If anyone that has had success has any advice I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance. I wish everyone who is studying the best of luck in their endeavors. - Dean

Does anyone know when JY will be hosting the next blind review session?

I'm a non-URM and have average softs with 2-3 years of work experience.

If I don't mind paying a sticker, which T-14 schools should I apply? Do I even have a shot (especially at Michigan, UVA, Northwestern) with such low LSAT?

I understand the 7sage method of improving on games (referring to the flowchart that is mentioned in the core curriculum) but I find that over the last 6 months I haven't improved at all on logic games. The only pattern I've come across with my scores on this section is that usually I can get 2/4 games but the remaining 2 I'm completely lost.

After I watch the video explanations I can re-create in the inferences very quickly, but then when I go onto the next prep-test I run into the same thing; 2/4 games I can do, but take too long to complete, then I end up having to guess and bomb two games. This process is something that has been on rinse and repeat for the last while and I want to know what am I doing wrong? It doesn't feel like I'm benefiting at all from the 7sage method to master games, as my understanding of games is still so low; its feels as if I'm making the inferences out of memory of the video not so much my understanding of how the game boards/pieces are operating.

Any advice on what I should do differently would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

Note: It could also just be that I'm an idiot

Hello everyone,

I was just wondering,

When is usually the last day when we receive notice from schools that we apply?

School starts on August, right?

Will we be able to find out all results by April?

Or can some results arrive on May and after?

Thank you!

So I just got my December LSAT results back, and as expected, I didn't do very well (155), I knew right after that exam that it hadn't gone great. I choked on the logic games section, and underperformed on the LR. I need some advice on whether I should take the February one, or wait until June... Essentially my situation is as follows:

I am from Canada, and my GPA is slightly lower than the median for most people applying to law schools here. The average applicant has an A- average which is 80-83% (with a 162 LSAT), mine is a B+ 77%, or so (differs from school to school but this is just a snapshot). This isn't from lack of ability (I got straight A's my final year of university), just lack of focus or motivation my first few years. I already paid for a handful of applications for this coming admission cycle and obviously would like to go somewhere but I am not sure if I should put myself through 1 month of extreme stress with a large chance of not getting a high LSAT mark (163-165) I currently need (and blowing another LSAT write). From what I have learned in JY's course, crushing the LSAT is a habitual process that most people get to from months and months of constant repetition and practice. I put in a couple months of full time studying but clearly that wasn't enough.

A handful of people have recommended that I register for classes at the university I graduated from as an unclassified student and take a year of classes that I am interested in (I am a huge history/politics buff) to bring up my GPA. On average, Canadian law schools tend to weigh GPA slightly higher than the LSAT. I shot myself in the foot by not becoming absolutely stellar at LG's, I was averaging 16/23 on the 8 PT's I took before my actual write. Assuming I did well in all these classes, It would alleviate some LSAT pressure.

The only downsides to waiting until June is that I wasted $800 on applications since February's LSAT is the last score accepted for admission in Fall 2017, and I delay my law school aspirations a bit (I am currently 26 years old).

Anybody who has advice, opinions, or general comments....please let me know!

FML.

-7 LR

-3 LG

-10 RC

(crying inside)

So, I just checked my application status for GW and it says my future lsat score has been received. Does this mean the scores are out for schools? I don't see anything on my LSAC acct; my application was on hold for my test scores.

Hi everyone,

I hope those of you who sat the Dec. LSAT killed it!!

I had applied to schools well before my Dec. Lsat with just a September score and had notified schools that I will be retaking in Dec. Now that my Dec. score is in and my LSAT score isn't pending anymore i'm wondering if I should nudge the admissions office to make my application complete. How fast or slow are they in updating files...does anyone have experience with this? My 2 options are to either ignore it and let them do their thing or notify them about my Dec LSAT and let them know that I don't intend to retake in February. Let me know what you guys think!

Thank you.

So I am sure many of you are sitting in anxiety and fretting over the what ifs as much as I am right now waiting for the score to be released. My advisor is a wonderful professor and a lawyer himself. As he said, welcome to the profession; it's a lot of money to take tests and a lot waiting. Well, I guess there is a silver lining in all of this. I am very blessed to be graduating my university a semester early with a 3.8. My whole life I have been a good student. I never really had to study until college. Granted I would study prior to this, but I have a very good memory and a lot came naturally (except math and science). Alas, when I took the SAT that was not my thing. I have never been so wonderful at standardized tests. It just is something that is an internal battle for me. The test anxiety gets to me.

Now coming to the LSAT...my new enemy. I began studying with Kaplan and took a course last May. I studied for 5 weeks and in my eyes "bombed" the LSAT. I was devastated. I probably should have listened to my gut and put off until September like a good friend of mine did. There has never been something in my life that has been so challenging academically. I just don't understand how one test could mean so much and could be such a barrier for so many people. If you have enough determination and will to succeed, the law school process will be what you make of it. I have a few friends who did not do wonderfully on the LSAT (in the low 150s) and are doing wonderfully in law school and on the Dean''s List.

I know that once the LSAT is behind me I will be able to take the huge leap of faith and give it my all in law school. Although, right now I am feeling pretty defeated. I have been studying waiting for the December results just in case I need to take again in February as I am already signed up. Many people not in this position question my motives. They think I should just give up and not bother. They don't understand why I have to miss out on going to many events or study so much. Its because I have this fire inside of me to succeed and reach my goals. I am sure many of you have already stopped reading, bravo if you made it here lol, but I just know that we all have that same feeling. Friends of mine in the same boat see the gut wrenching fear that the LSAT process gives. The anxiety. The fear of both wanting to know and not wanting to see it pop up. The need to plan ten steps ahead before you can even get to step one. However, eventually, we will all get there. Thank you JY and 7Sage for helping us on this journey. And for some reason writing this word wall has been therapeutic. I'm done now. Good luck to all!

what is an lsat score band and should i care?

Hi guys,

Just got my LSAT score and I scored a 167, lesser than I expected and lesser than my last few tests average. I was planning on applying for fall 2018 anyway. Should I take the LSAT again? If I do, it will be my third attempt, in my first attempt I had scored a 157.

So this was my 1st official LSAT and I already knew I would take it one more time. In the mean time I wanted to ask what do I do now? I know some of what to do but interested in what others have to say or maybe did after getting their first score, whether it was good enough for them or not.

I am a little bummed out after receiving my December LSAT score. I got a 158 in September and a 154 in December (I was really looking foward to scoring a 160 or above; not sure what happened). So, I have two questions: how badly do you think this will effect my chances in getting into top tier law schools and scholarship opportunities? Do you think this drop requires an addendum?

I am an URM, if this helps.

Would love to hear some feedback.

No news is good news! Good Luck

I need some hard LR sections to insert as 5th sections on upcoming PTs. Has anyone considered or know what the top 10 or 5 hardest LR sections might be? Haven't been able to find anything like this online, apart from individually ranked questions.

Hi, i am currently a student studying for the June LSAT 2017 in Asia (which is on 25th).

I studied my Lsats on 2014 June and took my first Lsat around September 2014.

Turns out I did not gain the score I wanted and I graduated college on 2015 May.

I started studying for the Lsats again last November and I was wondering if 6 months

is still okay time for studying the Lsats?

Also for personal reasons, I am forced to study the Lsats on night time (for 1hr 30 min ~ 2hrs)

Am I on the right track?

Any wise words would be fine thx

I did not take the December 2016 LSAT and the February 2017 LSAT because I needed more time to study, take more PE & BR etc. June 2017 will be my test date.

My question is, for the people who decided to apply the following year too, what did you do regarding your application and LOR? Did you send an e-mail to your professors notifying them that you would be applying for the following year?

On the LSAC website it says to notify your recommenders just in case they want to update your LOR or God forbid not allow you to reuse the LOR. What did you do/ your experience with communicating with professors/recommender via e-mail?

Also please feel free to share any insight relating to what you did once you decided to apply for the next cycle.

Thank you! Cheers to the NEW YEAR and 7SAGE community for making this solo daily LSAT battle feel not so lonely.

Good Luck

Does anyone have one? Is there one on here that I haven't found yet in the forums?!

Oh and happy new years!

Happy New Year Everyone! Hope everyone is off to a great start in 2017.

What are some of your LSAT-related or non-LSAT related resolutions?

I'll go first:

1) My LSAT-related resolution is to be more consistent with my prep. Because of my job, it's been hard to always study as much as I'd like to daily. Some days after work I'll study 6 hours and other days only 1 or 2.

I also want to stop letting myself off of the hook when I don't understand why something is wrong on the RC section. RC has always been my best section and sometimes I am just like, "WTF, how is B wrong and E correct!?!" Well, when that happens from now on I am not going to stop re-reading the passage until I can find a line cite proving the answer.

You won't beat me LSAT ;)

2) Non-LSAT-related resolution/goal is to find more value in the things I have and own. It's hard to explain, but for a long time I've gone through life hoping the next gadget, big paycheck, car, designer shirt, etc., would being me happiness. Sadly, this has not been the case. Except for anything I buy from the Bose store, lol. I love their stuff and it always makes me genuinely happy :) So I'm just going to be more happy with what I already have. Happy with less.

Also, I'm finally going to unsubscribe from all the companies who send me spam emails. I'll do it ... First thing tomorrow ... lol

Hello,

Could someone please check my work and let me know if what I have below is correct? I felt like this is a conditional heavy question. It took me 45 minutes to work out this question. Is there any quick way to go about questions like these (or is the answer more practice?)

This is how I translated each sentence in the question-

S1- Teachers effective → Teachers have the power to make decision in classroom

S2- /Teachers have the power to make decision in classroom → /enable students to make decision

= enable students to make decision → Teachers have the power to make decision in classroom

S3- Independent learners → making their own decision

S4- Teachers effective → Teachers have the power to make decision in class room

Putting it all together:

[S1] Teachers effective [S2] Enable students to make decision → Teachers have the power to make decision in class room

[S3] Independent learners → Capable of making their own decision

A) Could be true. Mistaken reversal of S3

B) Could be true. S[1] and [S2] are not chained together to reach a valid/invalid conclusion

C) Could be true. Same as answer choice B.

D) True statement

E) Correct answer because it is false according to S2

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/

Hey Y'all!

I applied for admission into law school this past fall, and though I got in somewhere, I decided not to go and do TFA instead, as this was the most financially smart decision for me.

Well, anyways, I had two amazing LoR's from my college professors on my application and I was wondering if I my LSAC file will keep those letters for this year when I apply? or should i ask those writers to simply submit them again? My only issue with asking them again is I have tried to email both of my writers just to keep in touch, but I have not heard a response back...lol.. I am sure they are busy..

Thanks in advance!