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Last comment tuesday, jan 31 2017

Hard decision, new start.

I finally decided to withdraw Feb LSAT. I felt underprepared and have advantage on this application cycle. I didn't take enough PTs and RC practice. It's a really hard decision since I prepared for more than three months.My target score is 170.Currently in around mid 150s.

I may apply for another master degree while preparing for June/Oct LSAT.

Hope my skills will get improved.Life goes on.

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Dec. disadvantage?

I don't know why it takes a whole month to release LSAT scores, but is it generally not advisable to take the Dec. exam if you're planning on applying that cycle to very competitive schools?

Reason I ask is because I'd like to take Sept and Dec (as backup) but if I don't get scores until January I feel like I might as well wait until the next cycle to apply. A lot of this is based on what's ideal and I know many would point out that I should take the test when I feel ready, but timing and a backup plan are strategic considerations that have to at least be factored.

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Hey All,

So we have this health study that found that people who gained approximately 1 pound per year after the age of 35 tended, on the whole, to live longer than those who maintained the weight they had at 35. However, there have been other studies that indicated that weight gain tends to lower life expectancy.

Pretty standard resolve the paradox stimulus. I'm thinking: "Okay...well 'weight gain' is a pretty vague concept. 1 pound a year versus 10 pounds a year will certainly yield different results. Maybe the answer choice has something to do with that? Or maybe we find out that one of the tested groups were not representative-- meaning maybe they were poor eaters or the weight gain was a result of muscle gain because they were regular gym goers."

Well, none of the answer choices did any of those things (not completely anyway).

I eliminated the correct answer (C) because it says that smokers tend to be leaner than nonsmokers. It says nothing about weight gain.

If (C) read: Smokers, who tend to be less likely to gain weight than non smokers, tend to have shorter life spans than nonsmokers, then I could see what the test writers were getting at. (C) would be providing us with an example of a situation in which another factor (namely, smoking) can effect the outcome of the study. (C) would give us a potential reason that these two studies yielded different results because the group was not a representative group. I think (C) would still provide a very weak resolution because it is not specifically linking the scenario in (C) with our stimulus and we are just given a vague possibility that may or may not be relevant. However, I'm not a fan of the other ACs either, so I guess (C) is what we're left with. The "may" part of "may or may not be relevant" is apparently enough.

HOWEVER, my contention with C is what I mentioned earlier. During my timed section (and even BR...) I eliminated C because it said nothing about weight gain. So smokers are usually leaner? Okay...? Maybe there is some sort of propensity in leaner people to smoke? Maybe people who eat less are more inclined to pick up smoking habits? The point is we don't know...so how on earth can we assume that weight gain is playing a factor at all in the scenario in (C)?

Thanks in advance.

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Is anyone else having trouble focusing on the LSAT with everything that is going on? This is an incredible space and I do not wish to compromise its neutrality. I am simply having trouble focusing. Does anyone have tips on staying the course?

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-1-question-05/

Here is the LSAT question from the problem set I am currently on in the course.

I have really got down the strengthening questions and I actually think they are quite fun. But the weakening questions are ironically my weakness at the moment.

The question:

I chose C in the initial timed test and stuck with it after the blind review. I totally see now how C completely supports the hypothesis, and is therefore wrong. But I was really analyzing D.

In the blind review, I wrote down that the reason I did not chose D was because it makes an assumption that Caplin fish are in a low supply. They both eat the same fish, so what? What if there are millions of these fish in great supply, than this would not matter at all. It also makes an assumption that Harp seals are better at catching and eating Caplin than Cods are. This assumption is still too large for me to understand why it would be the right answer choice.

I guess, by default, it would be right answer choice, since all the others are very wrong. But I would really appreciate someone explaining when I should have a critical eye for assumptions and when I shouldn’t, because it has obviously has swayed me in the wrong direction.

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    Hey guys,

    I have finished the curriculum and I'm planning on taking the June LSAT. I feel kind of stuck about where to go from here. Should I take practice tests and blind review? Or should I work on timing with some sort of drill? I'm super slow at answering test questions and I'm not sure what the best way to get faster is. I have only taken 2 practice tests so far. I feel a little overwhelmed and I just want to make sure I'm making the best use of my studying time. Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks!

    ~Danielle

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    Despite reviewing JY's explanation (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-4-question-25/), I don't understand why answer choice (C) is incorrect while (D) is correct.

    For one thing, how is answer choice (C) different from PT29 - S1 - Q16 (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-1-question-16/) correct answer choice (B)? There, (B) said "some..." and JY said even though the "some" may or may not address the case addressed in the stimulus, it could still potentially weaken the argument. So then why can't answer choice (C)s "Not all" in this case use the same reasoning?

    Moreover, answer choice (D) talks about being able to control an involuntary action which just seems to deny the premise that Marianne's actions are involuntary. This also says nothing about whether or not you should be held responsible. Being held responsible for an action that you can control is a further assumption we would have to make.

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    Last comment monday, jan 30 2017

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    At this point, most of us have spent many hours watching videos. Above these wonderful videos is JY's family avatar.

    BUT WHAT IS IT? Is he on a jungle gym? Behind a giant steering wheel?

    Please post hypotheses. Thank you.

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    As I am going through the CC I have noticed in at least two PTs that there have been a misspelled or missing word in a question.

    The first time I noticed this was when a stimulus was talking about "Otterville" but the question and answers used "Outerville". The second instance, however, was more game changing. In my PT 22, Section 4, Question 14, answer choice B is missing the word "not". In the 7sage CC it was present. The wording of the answer was tripping me up and I had almost chose it, though after seeing the video explanation with the missing word added it made so much more sense to immediately cross out that answer.

    Has anyone else experienced a difference between their PT's language and what 7sage has? I'm not worried my PT's are severely messed up but is a bit confusing to me.

    I have printed PDFs of the PTs that were distributed by Kaplan.

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    I have a question for answer choice A for the second question on "mental contortions." Although I got this question correct, I was really hesitant on marking A the right answer due to the word "beforehand." In the context of the passage, it states that "judges' instructions to juries to ignore information learned outside the courtroom" could not be "relied upon," and such instruction would become "mental contortions" to the jurors.

    In my mind, information learned outside the courtroom (where prejudice can be formed) can be formed not only before the trial, but also in the middle of a trial, and therefore, I thought answer choice A was incorrect as it limits the scope to only before the trial (hence, descriptively inaccurate). However, I eventually chose A because all the other answer choices also limited the scope to "pretrial," which really confused me...

    I'm actually a native South Korean student, so I may be unfamiliar with the concept of a "trial." If we are to assume that there is a certain case that lasts several days, and the parties of the case go to court several times to dispute the case, to my understanding, this as a whole would still be one trial. Therefore, I thought that juror prejudices could be formed in the middle of a trial (or, during a trial), as they would go to court, and then go home (get information outside the courtroom), then go to court, then go home, etc.

    I would really like some clarification on this and any help would be great!

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-3-passage-1-passage/

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-3-passage-1-questions/

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    Admin edit: Please review the forum rules. Posting full questions from PTs is against our TOS.

    Which one of the following, if true, most strengthens the teacher's argument?

    (A) A journalist undermines his or her own professional standing by submitting for publication statements that, not being attributed to a named source, are rejected for being implausible, unoriginal, or dull.

    Can someone explain why A is the correct answer choice? I feel like I'm not getting the conditional logic of this question.

    I diagrammed as AP (accepted for publication) --> HP (highly plausible) or HO (highly original) or HI (high interest among audience). I think the contrapositive should be ~HP and ~HO and ~HI --> ~AP. But I think A is doing ~HP or ~HO or ~HI --> ~AP. Am I missing something?

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    Having prepped for a long time, all the preptests I have taken thus far were retakes and I have been scoring in the mid to high 170s with several 180s as BR score. I'm at a bit of dilemma, because I didn't expect PT 80 to be released yesterday and I'm debating whether or not to take that exam or PT 79 before the February exam. PT 79 was an official take for me but I haven't had the chance to take it on my own nor BR it; PT 80 would be a completely fresh take. Should I take both exams before February 4th? Or perhaps take PT 79 and take the LG section of PT 80?

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    I am retaking some of the 70's PT's to get ready for Saturday (fingers crossed!). Most of the LR is no problem for me, I just was hoping for a bit of a discussion on a few questions, maybe someone can critique my reasoning? So here it is:

    This is an extremely tricky strengthen question for me.The stimulus doesn't ACTUALLY mention that population growth will continue, which is the flaw I suppose. IF the trend doesn't continue, then there is no need to address concerns. Beyond that, the argument DOES indeed note that the planets resources allow for "food to be produced" at several times what it is now, and that there is a maximum to it. Answer choice B (the one I picked way back when) doesn't mention food shortages, so that is a count against it, but I am caught on the terms here "food resources from ... the ocean ... will eventually be fully utilized". To me that could be a counter to the objection, "maybe food has a maximum PRODUCTION amount, but we fish from the oceans, which doesn't count as PRODUCING, its more like procuring." I read produce here to mean "to compose, create, or bring out by intellectual or physical effort" [Merriam-Webster def. 6]. I suppose LSAC here means "to give birth or rise to : yield" [Merriam-Webster def 2]. Anyone find this a bit frustrating? Thoughts on how to avoid confusion when they try to play tricks on language?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-07/

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    I guess I have a 2 part question in a way. First, I have been working on SA questions and I'm really having trouble putting everything together under timed conditions. I was fine with the questions that JY does to introduce you to SA questions (I would try to solve it before watching). Its like my mind starts to race and skips every other word when the clock starts. I don't want to use up too many of the problem sets under non-timed conditions but I'm finding myself having to do this to understand the question.

    Any suggestions on what I should do? I get the logic part, but I just seem to fritz which leads me to my other question.

    My biggest weakness is mentally focusing when under timed conditions. Like I said above, my mind gets fritzy and I lose all focus; especially if I don't understand what I'm reading the first time because I know I'm wasting precious seconds.

    Any tips on what has worked to keep your mind calm and focused during PT's/actual tests?

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    Hi,

    I found some schools even limit the words number to 350 even though they do not have page number limit for PS.

    When there is no page number limit, should we still limit DS to 1 page/shorter than PS? or maybe, longest 2 pages or so?

    By the way, characters and words are different right?

    When it says 1000 characters, it is not the same as 1000 words, right?

    Thank you

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    Hi guys,

    So I have been studying for the LSAT since 2014 and I have been also doing freelance consulting work up until August 2015. I have about a 2 year gap in resume currently, due to studying full time for the LSAT, and I was wondering how damaging this would be for the 1L OCI interview process. I realize I may be going ahead of myself at the moment but I'm concerned about the impact this might have on my future employment prospects. Will this be an issue for law firms during the OCI process for summer internships?

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    Sorry for the ominous title, but I'm really conflicted on what to do, and friends/family aren't objective enough to give me a solid response.

    I am Canadian and applied to 7 schools across the country, I wrote the LSAT in December after delaying the September exam after studying for 4 months. I wrote in December because I felt like I had to, since I had already submitted all my applications and was dead set on attending law school in 2017.

    I didn't feel great writing in December, and left the exam feeling like I would need to rewrite. I got my score back and scored 10 below my average, 155, and have a personal high of hitting 171 on a few preptests. My struggle section is LR by a long shot - average about 6-8 wrong per section, and -12 on the section on the December test. I'm not sure if my issue is stamina or lacking the fundamental knowledge for the question types. I average between 0 -4 on LG, and between -4 -6 on RC.

    I recently decided, due to pressure from family/friends and myself to write the test in February because my main concern would be losing this application cycle and the money used to apply. My scores have improved slightly from taking a month long break, I came back and got 171 on my first PT since my break, and gotten 169, 168 etc since.

    My main question for the community then is this, do I grind it out and hopefully save this application cycle, or sit it out and write in June or September and maybe still get accepted this year? I also emailed my schools I applied to and told them I would be writing in February and to put my application on hold, would it not look bad to then go back and tell them to change it back?

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    Last comment sunday, jan 29 2017

    A Good warmup for test day

    What is a good warmup for the day of the test? I noticed when I do logic games shortly after I wake up in the morning, the first time I make some sloopy mistakes and miss questions I could have easily answered correctly. However, the second time around I am much more sharper in mind and less likely to make careless mistakes. Any tips to warmup my mind to perform at optimal level for test day?

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