Am I sadly completely clueless - or is the LSAT Blog option under the Discussion menu new??

I have 7Sage Discussion Forum on my bookmarks Bar - so I rarely use the Discussion option through the menus...

I am BR'ing for BR call tomorrow night BUT all I want to do is read all of the info on the Blog - arrgghhhh

7Sage offers so much - cannot believe that I completely missed this...

I am going to have so much fun on Sunday reading through the Blog:)

edited to add link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsatblog

Hi,

I was averaging a good -3 to -7(hard ones) on RC.

PT 59 RC section killed me... -11

I got 167. Did okay on other 3 sections.

The worst part of it is that I felt good about the RC.

I thought I nailed the section. Had some time left, at the end, to review the questions.

Bad sign right???? Confidence error?

When I started 7sage I had ambitious goals but this program helped me to blow even them away. I got a near full ride offer from my dream school. This was a school that was a reach numbers wise but I likely would never have had the opportunity to even entertain applying had it not been for 7sage. I went from a 148 diagnostic to a top 14 caliber score using this program. Smart studying and hard work pay off. Good luck to my fellow posters.

I have my mind set on going to law school in the Fall of 2017 and i want to know if i should be taking the test in september or december of 2016? Will this even make a difference? I dont want to take to test for June because i feel i can get better but i dont want to pass the deadline for next years admission.

Hey guys! First of all a huge thank you to the 7sage community -- you guys have definitely been instrumental throughout this whole LSAT monkey business. I started studying last year and sat for my first take in Dec. Maybe I was nervous, maybe game 3 was a doozy but I scored 165, which was 2 points below my diagnostic (Preptest A). I had been averaging 173/174 before Dec so I decided to retake. By February I was averaging 175/176 and ended up with a 173.

My concern is that I'm a splitter. My GPA (3.45) is well below the 25ths of most schools I'm looking at, so I know I have to pull off an LSAT in the 75th. Do I retake and try to pull a 175+? How bad does a third take look?

I'm not applying until fall of next year so I have plenty of time, but a retake would be significatly harder to arrange because I will be abroad and would have to travel to another country for a testing center.

Anyway, would a few more points be worth it?

*I am also URM, which might affect admission chances

Hi guys,

Looking for some advice. I didn't take a diagnostic at the beginning of my prep and am now wishing I did just to have some sort of number in my head. I have been doing very light prep and really only worked on basic sequencing logic games, so I'm wondering if I still should? My concern is that this limited prep will inflate my diagnostic somewhat and I would like to have it be sort of a raw score. Part of me says screw it and keep prepping and achieve numbers once I start PT's, but part of me wants to know. What do you think I should do? Thanks!

"the author assumes one reason when others could be plausible"

Can you tell me the name of this flaw? Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone!

First off, I'd like to say that I've been on 7Sage since 2014 and really admire and respect this community. You are all extremely dedicated and talented, and you motivate me to work harder, better, and smarter.

That being said, I need some advice: I took the Feb. 2016 LSAT, and scored a 171. My GPA is 3.78, and I'm reaching for the T-14.

I've taken the LSAT once before (June 2014, the dreaded PT 72!) and cancelled, so this was my second admin.

I'm wondering if I should retake it in June, given that my PT average was 173. I know that 171 is a respectable score, yet in terms of scholarship $$$ and the potential to hit an even higher score, I'm wondering if it's worth another go.

I'm hesitant because I know that schools like Columbia, Stanford, and Berkeley may not favor a third take (unless you scored way below target on the first two and/or cancelled, etc.)

What do you all think? I welcome any and all advice. Thanks =)

I started taking the course in January and am now two PTs in. The first was on Monday, a 153 which was 6 points higher than my diagnostic, giving me a much needed confidence boost. However, my LG score was -10, definitely a black spot. Yesterday, however, I scored an abysmal 150 mainly because I scored a -15 (!) on the LG section. The worst is that when I watch the video explanations I can immediately tell why I messed up: my diagramming. I simply did not illustrate the rules well, which was disheartening since once I knew how to diagram I can get almost every question right obviously.

I don't know what to do right now. Do I stop my PTing until I have a firm grasp on LG? If so, how exactly do I go about improving? Should I still take my PT next week? My self esteem and confidence have sunk. My goal is to break the 160 barrier by test day, a score that I hope is within my reach. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Has any current 7sage member used it and have a review of it?

Hi 7Sagers,

I'm looking to get some input from you all. The community here is amazing, so I'm looking forward to some great suggestions.

To give you a little background on my situation:

I took the December LSAT (been scoring in the low-to mid 150s and should have probably not taken it either way, since my goal score is in the 160s) and got a devastating score in the low 140s.

Before this I had been studying for about 5-6 months, with 2-3 months intense study (quit my job the last two months to dedicate time to a big move and my LSAT studies). I've studied with the LSAT trainer and all three Powerscore books and took about 20 PTs total.

I took off some time to mentally recuperate from this disappointment, decided to pick the books back up and study for the June LSAT. I just purchased the Manhattan LR book, because I've heard some better reviews on this compared to the Powerscore books and I need some fresh material.

LG is my strength, LR is pretty much hit or miss, and RC is too. I'd really like to get to a point where I'm getting close to -1 or -2 in LG (I was at around -3 or -4 at my best) and strengthen my LR skills to improve in that department as well. I've kind of given up on RC and am going to focus on my time management mainly to get through all passages and score points that way.

Now I'm wondering if a June LSAT will be feasible to reach my 160s goal, or if I should give myself some more time and rather shoot for September? I'm also not sure how to get back into studying, as I'm finding myself easily discouraged/unmotivated when I try to get back into it. Any suggestions on this? I know it's mental laziness and I probably just need to get it back together. I now work a full-time 8-5 job.

Also, should I still focus on basic skills and revisit lectures and books to strengthen those, or should I mainly focus on PT's and PT BR from here on out? I'm not sure how to attack this, but I know I have to do it differently this time around.

Thanks!

Jennifer

Just went over to Cambridge LSAT to check on the exact composition of their bundles and looks like all the official LSAT pdf's, including the bundles are gone.

It's a sad, sad, day.

My question is this:

Is the syllabus scaffolded in such a way for me to perform better on all parts of the test or should I be mixing in practice questions along with the courses/lessons? I guess what I'm really trying to ask is, how much practice should I be doing outside of the courses to improve?

Because as I finish one part of the syllabus I feel as if I haven't mastered that part.. Should I continue through the course syllabus and then return to practice questions for places I need improvement? Or should I master one part of the LSAT then move to the next course?

I'm sorry for the confusing/ambiguous nature of this question...

- Charlie

Hey guys,

As many of you know, I love 7sage. I loved 7sage when I first found the app on the AppStore in the Fall of 2014. I loved the community most of all. A lot of the folks here have become good friends of mine. And in January of this year, I quit my job to come work for 7sage full time. This is the first time in my life I've been a part of something I truly believe in—I have to pinch myself every now and again—if I could go back in time and tell my March 2015 self that I'd be writing this post now, I would have been overjoyed: so many dreams come true!

Back in July of 2014, I started studying for the LSAT. My diagnostic was a 152. After two underwhelming LSAT administrations (Oct and Dec 2015), I had my final shot in February. I officially increased 18 points over my diagnostic!

A lot of people ask these kinds of questions:

1) Is it possible?

2) How do I do it?

3) Are you really sure it's possible/I can do it?

I had those same kinds of questions when I first started frequenting the forums about a year ago. I'm here to tell you that the answer is an unequivocal YES.

So , this is my personal thank you to JY, Alan, and Dillon. Thank you, you guys. You made this possible for me.

Now let's go change the world!

Thank you 7Sage. I just received an acceptance email from my UNM. It was my #1 choice all along, since I live in New Mexico and intend on a career in environmental law and policy - and that schools has the a good clinical and natural resources elective. Anyhoo - yes, I did work my ass off and yes there was much blood, sweat and tears - but really JY Ping saved me sorry behind and for that, I thank you.

PS. On friday, I got priority wait listed by CU Boulder. But that's another story.

fairly simple question, how much more would a law school be willing to accept a student with a high LSAT score but a low GPA?

for some background: currently my GPA is a 2.0 with a year and a half's worth of credits underneath my belt and 2 and a half years left to go (7.5/20 credits to graduate; 5 credits a year). i was in a flux with my first three years of college not knowing what to do and underachieving/dropping classes. ever since i decided to go to law school last summer i made a serious effort to change my life around and completely became a different person. i also addressed my ADHD, depression, anxiety, and sleep problems so im in a much better position than i was before. Now i do whatever it takes to get my grades as high as i can so i can go above a 3 at least. in order to graduate on time to start law school by next august i basically have to do 2.5 years of school in 1.5 years. apart from school i study for the LSAT whenever i can and also be more involved with my fraternity.

with that all said, my dream law school is Vanderbilt Law. i havent been able to visit being all the way from canada but from my research it just seem ideal for me in terms of location, atmosphere, environment, academic quality, etc. I also know that the schools tuition alone is ~$50,000. because of that i have committed myself to scoring over a 170 on test day. its higher than the 75%ile of 168 but i want to earn a full ride. i am confident that if i study, and work hard i can get the score.

My fear is that even with a high lsat score i wont be accepted or wont get the kind of scholarship money im going for (i fall under under represented minority but i dont use that as a crutch). Am i overthinking this or am i reasonable to worry? (i literally cannot go a day anymore without thinking about being accepted to the school, its that bad) any sort of guidance would help please!!

So, I’ve been self studying for almost a year, but just started with 7Sage and quit my job to study full time; and I’ve already used two of my LSAT attempts. So, if I take it in June I’ll have to either rush the curriculum or miss out on a lot of PTs and BRs. If I take it in September, I’m worried I won’t have enough PTs to last (18 left and only 6 from the 60s/70s). I didn’t BR before, so was thinking if I opt for September I could maybe fill some of the time with BRing old PTs. I know that’s not ideal, but it’s what I’ve got. My average PT score from before joining 7Sage is only 4 points from my target score, so it’s not like I’m so far out of range that June is completely unreasonable. I would love to be able to get my applications in ahead of the avalanche that inevitably follows the fall LSAT score release, but not if it means decreasing my odds of reaching my target score. I’m really just kind of thinking out loud here, but it’s become really difficult for me to see all of this with any perspective, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hello everyone!

I wanted to take a moment to formally introduce myself to the 7Sage LSAT community. I am located in Nevada and hope to someday go to the UNLV Boyd School of Law. I am very excited to be a part of this community and hope the learning experience will be fun.

I have been using the free LG explanations and have seen drastic improvement--from getting around 8 right to only missing 1 or 2. I did this in about 12 weeks time (now if only my LR and RC would follow suit XD ). I was initially enrolled in a Testmasters course for the June LSAT, but the class ended up getting cancelled because of low enrollment. Between the time I started my prep 12 weeks ago and the date my TM course was supposedly going to start, I became infatuated with the 7Sage processes and learning methods. I really feel like it is a great bunch of people in this community. The only thing holding me back from formally enrolling was finances. I had already dropped $1500 on the TM course and did not have any spare cash to pay for 7Sage on top of TM. Fortunately for me, TM ended up being a flop, and I was able to get my money back. I have decided to make 7Sage my go to for LSAT prep. I can't help but think that this was meant to be.

Since I have only been prepping about 12 weeks, I am still very new to all of this. Feel free to drop any advice for this LSAT noob! Thus far I have only been through the PS bibles and the first half of the The Trainer. My initial diagnostic was 142 and my highest has been a 148. No too bad for self prep I think, but I am definitely in need of more help. Goal score is 165. I have only taken 5 PT's and they have all been in the 140s. That said, I think I am ready to kick it into gear with the LSAT and work my ass off.

Anywho, that's my story in a nutshell. Thank you in advance for all of the insightful lessons to come.

-DJ

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The proctor was organized and thorough, and communication was good. She made sure everyone heard and understood the rules before carrying on in reading out instructions. The room was relatively easy to find, it was well lit. There were no windows, but that didn't make it feel uninviting or uncomfortable. There were rows of long wooden desks going down the middle of the room seating two or three people each. I didn't notice any left handed accommodation, but there might have been one. There wasn't much need for it on the rows of desks because there was room enough between test takers that one could write the test either from their right or left. There were around 40 students in the room and noise level during the test was perfect, there was no disturbances. Finding the room inside the building was relatively easy, the only downside was finding a place to park. It took half an hour to get through all the pre-test formalities. It was close to me, one of the assistants of the proctors had been really funny and friendly, and facilities were great. I would definitely take the test there again if I had to. I took the test on October 2015.

Proctors: Nervous looking but overall kind and gave warnings. They answered any questions and were reasonable. One dragged his feet while walking, which was highly annoying but fine overall.

Facilities: College University - Bathroom within 2 mins walking distance

What kind of room: large lecture hall with terrible lighting

How many in the room: 50

Desks: 100

Left-handed accommodation: The proctors asked if anyone was left-handed. If so, they accommodated them.

Noise levels: Quiet

Parking: N/A

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 1.5 hours

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments: I was lucky to be seated in a well lit area. I don't think the lighting bothered others, though.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 02 06 16

Proctors: Several proctors were covering different areas of the room

Facilities: New-ish

What kind of room: classroom

How many in the room: 80

Desks: big enough

Left-handed accommodation: not sure

Noise levels: low

Parking: garage

Time elapsed from arrival to test: an hour

Irregularities or mishaps: no

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec 5, 2015

Hi, I got an okay score in December and applied when it came out in January this year. I then took the February test this year, but my score decreased by a couple of points.

Would those schools that I applied to in January see my February score? All of those schools claim that they won't consider scores from February, but I wondered whether my LSAT scores on file automatically update even after my submission of the application.

Proctors: 2 female proctors (1 of whom seemed very experienced). Followed the rules precisely, but were personable and never distracting.

Facilities: Clean, modern, and very well lit. Very new building amongst the school's fine arts facilities. Westmont has a beautiful manicured mediterranean campus which I found helped me relax and enjoy the day. Great space to walk around before the test. Bathrooms close--across the courtyard.

What kind of room: Spacious tiered classroom. Far larger than needed. A bit chilly--I kept my fleece jacket on for most of the test (or maybe it was just nerves that made it feel cold??)

How many in the room: I believe there were a total of 15 test takers. Certainly no more than 20.

Desks: Long, continuous bolted-down table style desks in each row. Tons of space--I had an entire row to myself and all the desk space I could have ever needed. Chairs were padded.

Left-handed accommodation: I am left-hand and due to the nature of the desks (see above) it was ideal.

Noise levels: I didn't experience any distracting sounds or noise levels, inside or outside the room. One test taker had a squeaky chair, but it was discovered before the exam began and the proctor allowed him to change seats (for the benefit of all).

Parking: Easy, free (no pass or permit needed), and close to the testing room. Not even a gatehouse to worry about.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I didn't keep track, but it seemed about as efficient as one would expect. We did have to wait outdoors beforehand (no hallways), but the weather was beautiful as it almost always is in Santa Barbara, so this was not an issue.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: I believe the Westmont test center is probably capped at 15 or 20 test takers, mostly to accommodate Westmont students. Not being a Westmont student myself, though, I was able to get in. Just be sure to register early if you want this site, otherwise you're stuck with UCSB and we all know what happened there in December 2015!

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely! I cannot imagine a better test center.

Date of Exam: December 2015.

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on how I can use my iphone to record myself doing an LR section.

I'm particularly looking to focus my camera for a clear view of my paper in order to identify how long I am taking per question.

I think it would also be useful for other purposes as well, ie critiquing my LG method.

I'm trying to go for the same quality as we see with videos of other 7sagers doing logic games.

Does anyone know how they do it? Ie what camera they use, what mount they use for the camera etc.?

Thanks!