Hey guys/gals,

I was wondering if you might be able to lend a hand? Can anyone tell me when it's most prudent (with respects to sacrificing time) to use the 4 wrongs make it right formula? Are there question stems worded in ways (i.e. must be true, etc.) that would alert you to this, or are there specific questions types (i.e. parallel, etc.) that should signal using this approach?

Thanks!

I am just curious to know if anyone here has written an LSAT with accommodations. If so i just had some specific questions

Where do you guys obtain your PTs (in hard copy)?

This will be my 3rd time taking the LSAT in the same testing center. The past two times the desks were extremely small. I am 5'7" mainly legs which do not fit comfortably under the desk. I have to extend them all the way or sit side ways to cross my legs. There isn't any room for my eraser and pencils, those have to be placed on my lap and I have to fold my test booklet vertically in half as it does not fit fully open. Not to mention all the times I my test booklet or desk hits the seat in front of me from moving it or adjusting myself. What can I do about this? Is there any way to request a bigger desk?! The LSAT is stressful enough. I hate to have the desk be an added factor.

I'm going to be traveling a lot this coming week, and I'd love to be able to study while on the plane. Is there any way to access course materials offline? I realize I could pay for WiFi access on the plane, but I'd rather save my money... I'm pretty broke at the moment. I know in previous years the answer has been no, but I was hoping some portion of the lessons might be available.

It says on the admission ticket that I'm not allowed to contact LSAC test center supervisors for any reason. I've heard different things about my test center having those small, pull-out desks and I wanted to ask someone at the college if that'll be the case. Is this in violation of LSAC rules? From the wording on the ticket it seems so, but I've never heard of this before.

Anyone out there know how I can get my hands on PT 41-50 without spending exorbitant amounts of money? My unseen PT stockpile is getting quite low and I'd like to dip into the 40s before moving on to the more recent tests. Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

Hey guys I am almost done with bundle but I notice for CBT questions when the correct answer is A I cannot choose it and move on I have to check at least B and sometimes C and only then I move on, wasting a lot of time. Anyone else had the same problem? How should I tackle it? Do you think redoing the bundle in sections with reduced time (30 min/section) could help?

Hey Sages,

I finished the 7 sage curriculum and I'm in the PT/review portion of my LSAT. I've been reviewing each question and returning to the curriculum after each test to review the lessons on Flaw, Parallel Flaw, SA, NA but my scores are kind of all over the place:

PT 36: 163/ BR: 167

PT 37: 158: BR: 170

PT 38: 167/ BR: 174

PT 39: 161/ BR: 170

Any ideas as to what this is or what steps I can take to improve?

Any splitters in the house? (High LSAT/Low GPA)

or better yet, any splitter with a success story? :D

Okay, I’ve taken my previous LSATs at my alma mater. It was great. Huge desks in a room I’ve had classes in on a campus I know intimately in a city I call home. What more could anyone ask for? Well in their wisdom, they’ve decided not to administer the test in September. I’m pretty sure they’re only doing it to screw with me, but regardless, I’ve got to find a new center.

I’m like, okay, well I’ll just have to do it in Oxford. Whatever, no big deal. Wrong. Big deal. It occurred to me (thank god) to check the football schedule and sure enough, there’s a home game that day- and an SEC conference game at that. There is no way I’m taking the LSAT in that environment.

So I’m just going to leave.

My question is, where should I go? I’ve been thinking of cities like San Francisco, NYC, DC. I can go anywhere. But I think what I’m really wanting is something small and peaceful like a little village on the Pacific coast like with cliffs, a small independent B&B, and probably a dark secret of some kind (those little towns always have something like that going on, right?). Or maybe like somewhere tucked away in the Rockies near a mountain lake. Some kind of serene shit like that, you know?

So, any suggestions?

Hi guys,

Have you guys tried printing out the admission ticket to see how your LSAT photo looked? The photo I uploaded on the site met the requirements, but when I printed it out with my black and white printer,the photo quality came out somewhat grainy. It's still clear enough to discern my identity but not as sharp as I would like. Is this an issue that you guys came across with? Should I just try using a better printer to be safe? LSAC said as long as the picture clearly indicates my identity I would be fine.

7Sagers, is there an example of a LR question that you have deconstructed front to back that really paid dividends for you? I’m not talking about magic bullets or anything, but a question that after you had a foundational grasp of LR down, provided an understanding that you felt took you to a deeper comprehension of the test? Maybe a question that you were thankful you got wrong because of the insight heavily reviewing it provided? If possible, I would like to use this thread to bring together our views as a community on this matter. Disparate points of view, like the sinews of the rope are often the strongest when they come together.

For me, my question is 53-3-22, the Paradox-Except question. The first layer of difficulty on this question for me is the “except” element of the question stem. For some reason, I lose sight of this when my brain tries to make the answer choices fit, when they do fit (that is to say, when they actually resolve the paradox) it takes a fair amount of discipline for me to not consider them the “correct” answer. Essentially, I feel as though it takes me an extra step to first translate the answer in a manner in which resolves the paradox and then eliminate it as wrong. I am reminded in this regard of what Marx wrote about the clunkiness of learning a new language: " In like manner, the beginner who has learned a new language always translates it back into his mother tongue, but he assimilates the spirit of the new language and expresses himself freely in it only when he moves in it without recalling the old and when he forgets his native tongue.”

The first lesson this question provided me was not to waste the mental energy on the “Except” part. Simply know before I sit for the actual test that “except” means what it means and be familiar enough with the exam that that process is automatic and smooth. The first time I got this question wrong I simply chose something that resolved the paradox (C) and wrote “Easy!” in the margins. This will never happen again.

The next lesson this question taught me what was both out-of-bounds and in-bounds in the realm of assumptions. That is to say what constitutes “implausible, superfluous…” by “common sense standards” when weighing the assumptions of answer choices? The second time I got this question wrong I chose (A) because I thought it took more assumptions to consider (A) as a resolution than it did any other. So count that as 2 times I got this question wrong for 2 different reasons.

At the end of the day for this question, you are forced to weigh whether (A) or (B) actually resolves the paradox more. (A) carries with it the assumption that because libraries are buying fewer “popular” novels, that people are choosing to buy them at bookstores and therefore are increasing profit. (B) carries with it the assumption that not only are bookstores contained within the nebulous “most” retail category in which shoplifting has hit, but that the cost of the “sophisticated antitheft equipment” was not only covered by bookstores being “largely unaffected,” but that it actually lent itself to “increased profits,” all within the realm of “recent.” Colloquially, if I were to show (B) to my friends who are nurses or chefs or mechanics, it would make sense as something that resolved the issue. Yet the assumptions that it carries because of the wording, require much more mental gymnastics than (A) does to resolve the issue.

Lesson #2 this question taught me: you are going to have to sometimes make some assumptions, make them cautiously and weigh your options. you don't have to love the answer choice for it to be correct.

Lesson 3 is to bury the question when you've answered it. It's worth 1 point.

So 7Sagers, I hope this wasn't too stream-of-conscious, but what are yours? I look forward to your comments!

-David

As we're in the middle of seat deposit season, I thought I'd see where fellow 7Sagers will be attending law school this fall. I'm very happy to be attending Vanderbilt Law School.

note-I didn't see a previous thread on this, but please merge if there already is one.

Hi guys,

I was reading through the rules on my admission ticket and apparently you aren't allowed to visit the testing room itself prior to the exam nor call the test center supervisors prior to the exam as well. Does thiis means that we can't call ahead to see if there are any ongoing construction projects or any noisy distractions on the day of the exam? How could they possibly enforce these two rules?

I currently work at a law firm as an assistant and have got the go ahead from my boss to study when I am not busy at work (other than my lunch hour).

Most of my free time has been spent researching schools, personal statements, tips, etc. but I'm hoping I can get some studying in as well. I am currently only using 7sage. I have tried to put my headphones in and watch some videos but find I can't absorb anything.

I thought about bringing one of my many LSAT prep books but should I be mixing 7sage and say for instance, Kaplan? Any recommendations for other brands which have similar teaching methods to 7sage?

For those of you who have full-time jobs, do you study while you are at work? Any tips?

I'm planning to write for September 2016. I have 2 jobs so I work about 55 hours a week. I've just started studying 20 hours a week. I've been studying off and on for the last couple years but finally decided to take the plunge and write.

Thanks in advance!

Yes—it's happening AGAIN!

Our very own @"J.Y. Ping" will be hosting BR Group for PT62 on Sunday. This should be fun.

You obviously don't want to miss this.

Sunday, May 29th at 8PM ET: PT62

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This will be our second-to-last PT meeting before the Pep Rally (6/3)!

Get excited.

Saturday, May 28th at 8PM ET: PT75

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I've just begun preparing for the September 24th test by taking the June 2007 test yesterday and scored a 146 without any prior studying.

60% (30/50) Logical Reasoning

48% (13/27) Reading Comp.

39% (9/23) Games

First, I'm wondering how this stacks up against those that didn't study at all before taking this same test. Then, given my score breakdown, I'm curious as to which section I should show most attention to. Upon review of my test, I made some obvious mistakes - standard I'm sure - and I did horribly on reading comp. Reading Comprehension is typically a strong suit of mine, but I would also like some advice anyone is willing to give with regards to that section.

I live in Tallahassee, FL and will be taking a course with TestMasters that starts July 8th and will be doing self-study until then about 30 hours a week. What section should I be showing most attention to in the meantime, and what techniques should I be employing as I work? I have both PowerScore Bibles.

Thanks for any insight!

I remember seeing somewhere that you need to look like the photo you submitted of yourself on test day (obviously), but does that mean I can't get like a new hairstyle? My hairs kinda long and I've gotten the urge to cut it more and more as summer has come rolling in, but now I'm hesitant to do so..

So, I've been studying for the LSAT for exactly a year. I've taken almost 50 practice tests during that time. For the past 2 months, I've been taking 2-3 practice tests a week and BRing them (with a one week break during that time). I've never gotten past a 171 on a first take, and a 177 on a retake. I guess I am exhausted and frustrated. I

I'm at a point where I'm not sure if it would be more effective to take a brief break or to continue grinding. My planned study schedule is the following:

today - finish BR of PT 65, drill RC

tomorrow - PT 72

Thursday - BR, drill RC

Friday - PT 67 retake

Saturday - off

Sunday - BR, drill RC

Monday - PT 76 retake

Tuesday - BR, drill RC

Wednesday - PT 75 retake

Thursday - BR, drill RC

Friday - off

Saturday - lightly drill PT 74

Sunday - lightly drill PT 74

I'm tempted to take the rest of today off, and do a retake tomorrow to boost my confidence instead of PT 72 (since I've heard this is an especially difficult LSAT). Thoughts?

I did want a 180, but I don't know how feasible that is or if I'm capable of making a breakthrough within the next few days. Right now I just want to be able to score in the 170s for the real thing and avoid having to do a retake.

I finished curriculum and have been taking Pts in the high 60's and 70's.

I've been missing 10 on the LR sections!! When I blind review I do much better and when I see the answers it all makes sense. Some I seem to be overthinking on. What should I do? The question types are

All over the board that I miss. Should I just re-watch all LR sections?

I am in a range that I was hoping for but I am clearly going to have a long road ahead of me but I am not discouraged I was really worried I would score a 120. I haven't taken a test like this in 10 years or ever really. Here are some things I noticed by time the last section came into play, I was starting to glass over... now that could be because it is late... but I am thinking it is simply because that test is HARD and my mind started wandering... I am hoping this was common for everyone on their diagnostic. Will training & studying help? I mean did it help you guys to take PT after PT... I am pretty sure I missed 5-6 questions at the end because I started to check out plus it was reading comp and wowza that was a lot of reading.

Second according to my results I really struggled with parallel reasoning & method of argument... and of course logic games. I am hoping this gets easier with drilling. Any tips or is drilling where I need to focus.

I got in the 140s, the school I am hoping to get into I need about a 157 or greater (for the part time program) while I would love to score a 170 because uhhh that would be awesome I am trying to get in the 160-169 range, which I think is feasible. I hope.

Well thanks everyone for your help today! I am sure I will ask a million and one questions between now and test day so thx again.

I thought it might be helpful for some to hear what types of breakfast foods & drinks people have found to be great choices for test day & maybe what types of snacks they brought for the break during the exam.

I think I had scrambled eggs, avocado toast & coffee when I took the exam before & half of a chicken sandwich, Apple, blueberries & vitamin water for the break. Not sure what I will do this time but probably something similar.

I am taking my diagnostic test tonight and I am suspecting it will be a little rough, as I have not taken a test like this in a decade. I am considered nontraditional as I graduated undergrad 10 years ago... and my understanding is that LSAT is weighed even heavier for non traditional students. Has anyone else heard this? Also any advise on studying as a nontraditional student? I have a full time job and I am finding that in the evenings it is really hard to study for long periods of time because I am just drained. Any tips? I am pretty much at stage one and I am prepared to dedicate 1-2 hours a day during the week and a little more on the weekend, but any tips would be great.