Hi all,

I'm currently a full-time firefighter in NYC, parent, husband etc., looking to attend law school part-time in the NYC area. I intend on beginning my 1L year in fall of 2028, with my anticipated LSAT in June of 2027. I also consult/teach mental performance and leadership in high-risk settings on the side. Undergrad GPA is 3.6, with 3.8 in graduate courses (never finished degree, St. John's), and my first cold diagnostic was a 144 (two weeks ago, shooting for a 170, because why not?!). Currently using 7Sage long with the PowerScore Bibles. Being that I have a fairly non-traditional background, can anyone who is deeper into this journey offer some insight/encouragement/advice? Being that I have two young children who drain the life/money out of us, securing money is a HUGE piece of this.

I believe a key to major improvement is yes, being able to identify the question types and its reasoning patterns/flaws. But the key things also identifying your own reasoning patterns. Once you're able to identify how your brain is thinking and processing information, you can train from there to become disciplined in the way the LSAT reasons.

Takeaway: Discover what your lsat blinders are and weaken it!!!!!!!!!

Hi all, I have been doing pretty well on RC lately but got hit pretty hard by PT133.S4.P3. I am trying to increase speed a bit and do little less annotating as some of the things like tone, perspective, ect are becoming second nature to recognize, and I think I also have been trying not to get too bogged down with the details in the passage, and try to see how other content and structure can help me understand it.

This passage was a science passage that requires a good understanding of the phenomenon that was occuring. I think I let myself be too high level and not take the time to fully understand the phenomenon and details to the extent needed for the questions.

I think with hindsight I could have eliminated answers more easily, but has anyone done this pasagebefore or have similar issues with some science passages? Or even is there some changes to my approach I should consider.

And FYI, really happy I did so badly on this one cause I think it shows a gap in my current methodology that I can hopefully address.

How do I see which section is an experimental section? For example for a PT can i see which section is exp. so i can just do that section?

Hey! We're hosting AMA sessions on our brand new subreddit this Thursday (me) and Friday (Ethan):

• Kevin's AMA (Thursday 2pm to 6pm ET)

• Ethan's AMA (Friday 2pm to 4pm ET)

Ask us anything about the LSAT and law school admissions in those threads. (You can ask your questions there in advance; no need to wait until the scheduled times.)

@EthanMadore

What does an independent tutor need to open this link? It doesn’t work

Heads up that I'm hosting another pre-test support group session today. Come listen to others' stories, give and receive advice, and feel like you're in good company as you approach next week's test.

Love y'all -- see you soon.

Just wanted to share a photo of my beloved Topaz! I got this ergonomic chair yesterday, and she’s already claimed it as hers. If you have back pain, get a new chair immediately. It was not cheap, but it’s going to save me so much pain! Especially as an online writer of the LSAT!

I am a non traditional First Gen College/Law Student and have somehow found myself on my last LSAT attempt. My first attempt was a 142-Cancelled, 2nd was 148-Kept, 3rd and 4th were cancelled they were 147/148 (don't remember which was which). I am fully aware of how bad that looks and do plan to do an LSAT addendum. My GPA was 3.84, but my LSAC GPA is a 3.09, there is an addendum with support from my undergrad as to why.

In 2024/2025, I applied with the 148 and was waitlisted and ultimately denied at my top choice (which is very surprising because their median LSAT averages 169-172 and GPA 3.8-3.9), denied at my 2nd and 3rd. Got in to quite a few others, some with scholarship, but not enough to make it, especially now with the borrow limits.

I do have a master's now that I did not have the first time I applied, and my GPA was 3.93, which I know doesn't count, but figured it will look good.

My question is- Has anyone ever gone from 148 or similar to mid 160s or higher? How long did it take you, and what did you do to get there? How often did you study, and what did those study sessions look like?While I don't have a set time frame, I am in my 30s and feel like time is ticking.

Hi, everyone! I'm getting excited to submit apps this cycle. This is my first time applying, so I'm new to the whole process. I'm looking at the LSAC website right now, and I see that there are two fees listed in addition to individual schools' application fees: a $219 CAS fee and with an additional $45 fee per application. Does this mean that I need to budget $219 + $45 * # of schools I'm applying to? If so, that's kind of outrageous. Am I misinterpreting something? I was planning to apply to 13 schools, meaning if I'm right, I'd be paying a baseline of $804 before taking individual app fees into account.

Here is the link I'm referencing: https://www.lsac.org/lsat/register-lsat/lsat-cas-fees?view=1

Hi All! Just giving you an update on our updates to the app instructions page here.

The update is simple - we're still on it! We're going in order by 1) when the app opened (so updating the August 15th open dates before the August 22nd open dates before the September 1 open dates), and then by 2) US News rank. Regarding that second one ... what can we say? That's a reflection of you all - the most popular pages that you all check out are typically the highest ranked schools.

In the meantime, how can you tell which schools we've updated?

1) You'll notice app deadlines that reflect this current admissions cycle.

2) When you open the school's info page and go to the "Requirements and essays" tab, you notice the notation under the app fees, deadlines, and all that which indicates that we've updated it for this cycle.

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Updates are rolling so do feel free to keep checking!

I struggle with timing on RC and tend to spend way too much time on the passages that trip me up. I've read online that some people will take the first minute or so to skim the passages, prioritize them from easiest to hardest, and tackle the easier ones first. I'm curious as to how many people actually employ this strategy and if they've found it to be helpful in improving their RC score or if I'd be wasting even more precious time trying this.

Do you use this strategy? How well does it work?

Have you tried it and found it to be a time suck?

I know this probably comes down to personal preference, but I'm willing to try anything for RC!

What the title says. My perspective essay is about being gay and learning to understand homophobes in a conservative country where it was illegal -> trying to look at the root cause behind ideological violence while growing up around it -> why it's valuable to me as a future lawyer.

As a teen I did indeed witness a bombing up close, run from a shooting, get SWATted, and live in a neighborhood where national violent pro-blasphemy law riots took place. I absolutely don't linger on these events - I just mention them to show how they impacted my thinking, becuase I don't want it to be a trauma dump essay. I talk about how during an LLB, my classmates said apostates should be given the death penalty and how that forced me to try and understand how they even got to that point of dehumanization in order to counter them.

My concern is like... that it might sound a little obnoxious to be like "I think I'd be good at int. law / comparative legal studies / refugee law because I've had to confront ideology a lot, and know what living under harmful laws or the absence of protective laws are like." And that it might also sound like I'm humanizing violent rhetoric, rather than saying that having to confront the people who held them and the circusmtances they produce gave me perspective.

Could i get some advice :')

Is it okay to write in my why x school essay for my alma mater that I want to attend its law school because I had an amazing experience with faculty, I love the city its in and want my career here, all my people live in the city, and they have a highly ranked program for type of law I'm interested in?

I'm scared for them to think I'm only applying because it's comfortable.

Hi! I am hoping to find a tutor with affordable prices for LSAT tutoring sessions. I am aiming to take the test in January with a goal score of 165 if possible (of course higher) i struggle with Necessary Asumption, Flaws, and Paradox

Planning on going to law school next fall. Feel like most of the people on here are 170 ivy league sweats. Just trying to get a little group together that are a bit more 'normal students. Plan on taking again in January so if anyone wants to join for discussions, helping each other out, and lowkey just holding each other accountable.

Any score/skill level feel free to join and hopefully make this a little chiller, as it shouldn't be so stressful.

Hi all! Been seeing some information online and some of it seems to conflict so just wanted some clarity regarding this if anyone has it.

Is the material in PT157-159 representative of the newer exams? And how is it different from 150-156? Is there any difference between the two in terms of the content date?

Hi all, I'm Cat! I graduated with a masters from Columbia and am aiming for a 175+ for the October exam. I scored a 168 on the June exam and am (semi) confident I can do better, so I'm shooting another shot.

I've been studying for this damn test on and off for around 2 years already. At this point I want to reboot my brain and study process by meeting other studiers and trying my hand at teaching/explaining, as I think it helps me strengthen my own thought process; so, naturally, all scores welcome! Come one, come all!

I’m currently registered to take my second LSAT in September after scoring a 158 on my first official attempt in August. My practice test scores have been improving—on my most recent test, I scored a 163 under timed conditions and a 170 on blind review—and I’m optimistic that I can improve on my September score.

That said, I’m also wondering whether taking the October test could give me a better chance of reaching my ultimate goal of a 170. I had a couple of questions about this plan:

1. Does it look bad to take the LSAT three times?

2. If I’m hoping to apply during this admissions cycle, would submitting my applications at the end of October, at the absolute earliest, put me at a significant disadvantage?

Started studying about 2.5 months ago. My baseline was a 157. So far I've been improving pretty steadily. But then my two most recent PT's have been stuck at 169. I'm hoping to eventually build up to the 174 range. Currently signed up for October LSAT. Anyone have any advice for breaking into the 170's?

Riding high on my perfect section score from earlier in the day, I decided to sit for a PT at 11:30 at night after spitting a tranquilizer dart at my son bc that's apparently the only way to get him to leave me alone for 3 hours. Will not be elaborating whether or not that is sarcasm, we are in the home stretch here, nothing is off the table.

But I collapsed on section 2, apparently. All the confidence I desperately needed to tackle this in 11 days just POOF. Practice Test with your best brain in the game y'all. Mental fatigue is real.

Hi, I've been taking practice tests with the Black on White color theme, using Dark Mode. It makes the background look dark gray, which is the easiest for me to read.

I don't see the Dark Mode option on Law Hub, so the Black on White theme is literally just black on white. Am I missing something? Is there a way to turn on Dark Mode in Law Hub and on the actual LSAT? I'm taking it next week and hope to see the text the way I've been practicing. Thanks!

Something interesting I've realized.

I'm more likely to get a simple question wrong than a more complex one. The very attention to detail and scrutiny that allows me to navigate level 5 questions invites me to overthink and talk myself out of the right answer on a very simple question. I've gotten 167-168 4 times in the last 2 weeks. And I'm realizing that, actually, its on the easy questions!

This is somewhat of a funny and pleasant observation. I'll just need to practice the easy ones again. Anyone else looking forward to September test :D

Hi all!

I am recently done with the LSAT and am moving on to preparing application materials. I find myself feeling isolated a lot of the time bc I don't have friends in the same process with me. So, I am posting here to see if anybody is interest in becoming accountability partners. I am applying mostly to US T20-50 schools and the majority of Canadian schools. I just finished my graduate degree in Art History and working at a law firm. We could do PS, essays and resume reviews, chat about the process in general and just keep each other supported. My stats are in my profile.

PM if interested and good luck to everybody :)))

I have been sleeping really poorly the last week or so due to a combination of social obligations, working full time, and fitting in 3-4 hours a day of LSAT study. Last night while exhausted I performed very poorly on an LR section relative to my expectations.

It felt extremely demotivating. I was super short on time and really struggled to interpret anything I was reading. Instead of doing a blind review right then, I decided to just go to sleep. I knew I'd end up even more sleep deprived while obsessing over every wrong answer.

I got a ton of MUCH needed sleep and did my BR this morning. Soon after I did another LR section. It felt incredibly easy by comparison. I know the sample size is small, but I've noticed a major correlation between my scores and how well rested I am. It makes sense to me that something as difficult as the LSAT would prey on a tired mind. If you take 10 extra seconds on every question (which as a percentage of the recommended time per question is really not that crazy) you will end up in a major time deficit.

All of that to say, I'm feeling a lot better. Time to improve on the concepts I didn't understand in the BR! Good luck everyone.