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Brief background:

Top 10 Public School, right below median GPA for Harvard. Aiming for YHS, trying to lock in CCN or T14 with significant scholarship.

Graduated in June, and currently working as a legal secretary for top 100 biglaw firm. Gained exposure to different practice groups (m&a, securities, real estate, IP litigation, and overall litigation - state and federal courts).

I realized I want to do regulatory work (more specifically in international trade), and work in DC (seeing as to how DC is the center for regulatory work). Would applying to jobs in DC, then gaining work experience in DC (as a legal assistant/paralegal in biglaw or something related to international trade) then studying for the LSAT on the side and going to law school a few years from now make more sense as compared to staying in my current role and locking in a high LSAT in June then applying early next cycle? I feel that the WE as a legal secretary wouldn't be viewed very highly by YHS specifically (even though it is in a biglaw firm) as compared to more specialized WE in a higher role (paralegal or regulatory analyst).

Scored around 167 on PTs, and still have roughly 30 fresh PTs left. Very confident in 170+ LSAT in June, aiming for 175.

Thoughts?

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Does anyone have any advice for the morning of the test on how to get your brain awake? I know there have been plenty of posts about a good breakfast, caffeine, etc., but I was wondering about brain exercises in particular. I was thinking of watching about 30 minutes of the training videos (basically the indroductory video of each type of LR question) and quickly reviewing the four logical indicator groups the morning of the test in order to get my brain into 'LSAT Mode'. Does anyone like, dislike, or have any suggestions about this idea?

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I'm having problems finishing LG sections (particularly the older ones) within the 35 minute time period. I can normally do PT35-57 within 30 minutes, but that's because I've seen them recently (within1 to 2 months). I can't seem to do well on the older games though. I usually recognize the game's patterns and inferences, and set them up properly, but for some reason I find myself taking so long to complete the questions. Any thoughts?

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I need a word of encouragement and/or advice. This is embarrassing to me. I passed reading comprehension in elementary school and I took a course in Humanities at both the high school and college levels whereby I passed both classes with ease. However, for both Humanities classes high school and college, reading comprehension was not tested like test questions on the LSAT. I talked to a librarian who informed me that reading comprehension is can be highly opinionated. Furthermore, for inference questions, the answer is usually something that I would have never thought of - way out there in left field. I've tried GRE reading comprehension study guides and have been able to go through the questions with ease all answers correct. However, on a different day in a different mood, I've tried other non-LSAT practice test from other sources whose name I will not mention by means of embarrassment and was not able to get a single answer right. What's happening and what needs to change besides my attitude toward LSAT reading comprehension. I feel totally embarrassed by this, but I am encouraged to know that in reading the discussions that I am not the only person totally upset, frustrated and having problems or issues with reading comprehension. Please help. In my opinion, the basic concept or idea of RC comes from the basic elementary school theory of RC, how well did you understand the material of what you read, "Reading for understanding". For a person who has been speaking and reading the English language for quite some time, several, many years; elementary, high school and college and has passed elementary school, high school and college; how can this be; difficult with wrong answers...??? !!! Again PLEASE HELP or explain.

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Good morning & Happy Thanksgiving everyone, I was wondering if anyone found a sources for getting the 180 watch? If not, does anyone have one that is in good working condition they would like to sell? Thanks in advance.

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Hi everyone!

I'm new here. I've been studying for the LSAT since August 2015 with the intension of taking October. I enrolled in a TestMasters course in August but I just couldn't get my score above 145 before October's exam. I decided to postpone and registered for December using The LSAT Trainer and Prep Tests 62-71.

Unfortunately, I only improved a few points (my highest score 152 and my average usually 148-149.) With a week away from the test, I am close to accepting that I have to swallow my pride and withdraw from December. Sitting out the cycle sucks but I know in the long haul a stronger score can get me into a top school with scholarship.

If I take this route, I will register for June and most likely enroll in 7sage's Ultimate package giving myself 5-6 months of prep. I am aiming for the early 160s and quite possibly the mid-160s.

Just to give a brief synopsis of my habits for the past four months. For the most part, I conceptually understand a good amount of the material. I understand conditional logic, quantifiers, etc. For LG, making deductions, overlapping rules, etc. However, I do think I have great test anxiety and preform poorly on my PTs by re-reading questions, losing focus and not being able to apply my skills under timed conditions. My strongest section is LG (-6 to -8) followed by LR (-10 to -12) and worst RC (-15 to -17).

If you can help me with some advice, that would be great!

1) Is it best if I withdraw next week and keep my record clean with no re-takes?

2) Is it possible to jump from 148-152 to 160-165 with 7sage in 5-6 months?

Please let me know what you think. Thank you!

Ethan

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I'm confused to when to diagram. some inference Q are obvious with logical indicators. Some are hidden or have causation in the argument and qualifiers (maybe, could etc). When do you diagram? what's the general rule?

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Hey, I just started my 7Sage curriculum. I've read many positive reviews on the LSAT Trainer online. I'm considering combining the two together while I'm studying the fundamentals (before taking PTs). Can anyone give me some advice on that? Or any general opinions about the Trainer?

Thank you!

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Hello all!

I have but 8 day till the December Lsat's and I am at a terrible position. I am doing poor on all 3 sections. I can only get 3/4 passages on RC section and 3/4 games in LGs. My LR section results are terrible as well. Iv decided to focus only on 3 passages for RCs, and work on improving my LG and LR sections.

I would like some suggestions how to best spend the next 8 days. Should I focus on doing mix of lr and lgs? Should I devote one day to LR and one to LG'S? Or spend the next 8 days doing as much Full tests as possible?

Any suggestions, criticisms, ha ha's welcomed! Thanks

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Just completed PT 75, and I found it to be by far the hardest PT I have ever taken, following a subtle increase in difficulty (specifically LR) as opposed to previous tests. Is it just me, or is this a common theme amongst those of us that have taken PT 75 (June 2015 PT)?

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Wednesday, Nov 25, 2015

LG Help!

Hey Everyone!

So, LG and RC have always been my weakest sections. I'm working on RC now, and don't feel like I should post a thread requesting help since I haven't been able to isolate what it is about the section that drives me crazy -probably timing.

However, I've been drilling LGs on and off for the last 4 months, and I've yet to complete an entire section. The most I've completed were 3 games, with a -1 score between the three.

That said, I know my issue with LG is timing and sometimes the initial set-up. It takes me anywhere from 10-15 minutes to complete a game, regardless of how simple the game is. That said, is there any advice you guys and gals can offer? Now that I have another 6-8 months to study, I'm going to implement the "fool proof" method more than I have before.

Also, regarding LG when should we try to draw out all of the possibilities? Often I'll look at my initial set-up and think "Well...there are probably a ton of possibilities...off to the questions!" I then find out from J.Y's video that there were only 6-8 possibilities. After watching the videos, I beat myself up about not realizing that I could have cut my time in half by just writing out/finding all of the possibilities. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

My issue with determining whether I can write out all of the possibilities is timing. I worry that I'll waste time only to find out that there are more possibilities than I assumed, and that my now-random hypotheticals won't apply to any of the questions.

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Hey 7Sagers! Had a student email me in with this question and I thought you could help out. Here it is:

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I finished your online course while ago and I'm doing PTs now. I have a question while I'm trying to improve my LG that you didn't mention in the online course. How do I decide whether to pull out all the subgameboard in such a short time?

I found to pull out all the subGB really useful for some of the LG questions like PT69 S2 G3, some are absolutely unnecessary. However, for some of the questions, like PT70 S3 G4, it looks like a game that you can, and might need to draw down all the possibilities by reading the rules but actually the questions are super straight forward. Drawing out the subGB is just burning out time and I didn't get enough time to transfer my answer to the answer sheet which is crucial.

I used the method in the course, which is, do the LGs which I think I haven't mastered multiple times. I always can finish the game within time and without mistakes by the second or the third time because I already knew how do I setup the game board and whether I should split it.

So, inside 35 mins on test day, how can I decide very quickly that if I should split the game board without wasting time? I found it is especially hard under pressure.

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I typically BR LG to -0 or close to it, but sometimes screw up an entire game or sometimes a couple more questions on timed tests...

I BR above 160 every time now, but my timed scores, although they've been 160-163 before (Highest BR of circled 165) my OCT '15 Score was 157, took it 4 sectioned... I was out of focused, fatigued, misread things (an entire logic game because of it ) and missed 8 LR but towards the end of the last section. I think my key areas to focus are LG and LR, mostly LG but do try to tighten up LR..? I still have PT 74 available, took 76 and 75 already.

Schedule

Wed25, ReviewPT76 Whole. | Thur26, Take PT74 + BR all sections | Fri28 Review PT 74 3 hrs. | Sat 28 Review pt74 (Then have to write/research a few pages of a paper for a class...but have 3-5 or even more hours for LSAT if recommended. | Sun Drill LG 3 and 4 of both PT 75 and 76 as a timed section, Review what I miss. Review 74 more if have brainpower ) | Mon30, Drill LG 1 and 2 of PT 75 and 76 timed, review. Watch 7sage LR videos on PT 76, 75, and 74 ..( as long as I can until fatigue? ) | Tues 1st, Review 7sage videos of LR I got wrong for PT 76, 75, and 74, maybe not watch more than 2 hours of video? )

Wed the 2nd, thurs the 3rd, fri the 4th, take those days off | rest, meditate, eat well, & do not engage in any heathenry | Sat LSAT

I'm hoping a 167 is possible. I'd have to miss almost none on LG and do 4-7 questions better on LR/RC combined. At least a 163 would be nice! What should I do with my schedule? Feel free to tell me to completely change it if strongly advised!

Thank you so much to whoever takes the time to read all of this!

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
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    I had a hard time distinguishing the actual flawed reasoning here. I initially chose A because the logic matched perfectly, but changed my answer to E because E was more obviously flawed. My question is: when in doubt like this, is it best to just match the logic perfectly without worrying too much about identifying the flaw itself and just move on?

    Here's JY's explanation: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-1-question-14/

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    Hey all,

    I'm reaching out since I have run into a few problems with the LSAT that I didn't anticipate, as I'm sure some of you have as well. I started studying through this course over the summer, and planned to take the test in October. Then, probably around August, I decided to sign up for the December test only and not take it in October. Over the summer, my PT scores were slowly creeping up, but now that I am at school (a pretty challenging one at that), my scores have started to plateau at a point where I am not at all satisfied. I was around a 162-163 over the summer, but once school started, I kept at the curriculum (doing 2 tests and BR a week, along with the LSAT Trainer), but my scores have fallen to a lower plateau (158-160). I am signed up for the test in December, and still plan to take it then, but I am most likely going to take the test again unless there is some kind of divine intervention on test day. I am not really sure why my scores are falling, maybe its because I wasn't holding myself as strict as possible to the time restraints over the summer, or possibly vice versa, but I need advice regardless. By this point, I have done most of the 7sage curriculum and just finished PT 69 yesterday. But with finals around the corner, I was going to take at most 1 more PT before the real thing on the 5th. I was thinking about possibly taking the test in June, but I am not sure what my plan of action should be. I was thinking I should maybe go through 36-72 PTs again with a stricter sense of time, or at least focus on certain parts of the previous tests in places that I am having trouble in. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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    Wednesday, Nov 25th at 8PM ET: PT74

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    Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Purpose of proving grounds: Designed to be so demanding that only those students most committed to being science majors will receive passing grades in these courses.

    C: Designing introductory science courses to serve as proving grounds has not served its intended purpose

    Premise: Studies show that some of the students in these very demanding intro courses who are least enthusiastic about science receive passing grades in these courses.

    There is a gap here between "most committed to being majors" and "least enthusiastic about science."

    What if those who are least enthusiastic are most committed to being science majors and passed the course? That would destroy the author's argument because the sole premise now becomes irrelevant.

    However, I feel D is more like a sufficient assumption rather than necessary assumption. Let's negate D : some of the students who are least enthusiastic are among the students most committed to being science majors. However, with this negation, there are still two possibilities: (1) least enthusiastic +most committed + passed the course; (2) least enthusiastic + most committed+ not passed the course. So if all the students mentioned in D fall within the second the possibility, the conclusion still stands. So could anyone explain why D is a necessary one as it is broader than what we need.

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    I'm currently finishing up the last element of my applications for a few Canadian law schools, and I'm beginning to solicit advice from friends, family and strangers about the impact of my personal statement. One of my reviewers noted that I should clearly exhibit what I can offer to the school in my statement, and stray away from solely focusing on what draws me to the school.

    I've written a personal statement for Thompson Rivers University (TRU) in Kamloops, BC, which closely adheres to their 'guidelines' for a statement, e.g. The law school is interested in 1). Your reasons for applying to law school 2). How you plan to use your law degree 3). Why you're interested in this school in particular and 4). Why you made certain academic or previous choices and how those choices affected your decision to apply to law school (readers familiar with UCalgary's personal statement requirements will notice these questions are rather familiar).

    I've written a statement which I feel answers all of these questions clearly, drawing on my inspiration to attend law school gleaned through being involved in MUN and completing research on energy law and sustainability in my undergraduate degree. Furthermore, I have outlined what I plan to do with my law degree quite clearly as well. However, despite this, I cannot help but feeling like even after explaining my unique experience, motivations and career plans, I may have missed the mark in terms of illustrating "what makes [me] of particular interest to the Faculty of Law at Thompson Rivers University", especially after receiving this comment.

    Does anybody have experience in this area and would like to weigh-in, or is willing to share (loosely) how they structured their statement?

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