Just visited the test center JFK Law school in Bay area where i plan to take the Dec test.

The test takers are taking test packed like Sardines next to each other. There is barely 3inch separating two individuals.

Anyone experienced this or any recourse for this?

I took my first LSAT exam in Hong Kong (the test was different from US tests) today and got panicked in the first section since the last game was EXTREMELY hard.

I found that it was experimental afterward, but at that time I was so panicked and hardly focus on the next LR section in early questions.

Thankfully I could manage myself to become a usual pace as time passes, but due to initial panic I was running out of time in the LR section (2nd section).

The 4th section was LG again. It was very difficult (although not insanely hard as the first experimental one) and I made some silly unusal mistakes in the first two easy games so couldn't have enough time at the last game and made a random guess for four to five questions.

Since I usually kill LG section (I got all questions right nine out of ten and got wrong at most two), this unexpected situations in LG screwed up my exam.

Unfortunately I did only a few full time tests as practice and I think this was a big problem for me.

Well, at least I learned lots of lessons from my first exam and now know what I should do for my second lsat exam in February.

So I just need advice for score cancellation.

I am ultimately targeting 176+ and I have solved about 20 PTs and for recent 10 PTs my scores have been from 172 to 177.

For this October exam, I was targeting 170+.

But since I did very bad in LG, which I usually kill, and panicked in one LR section, my expectation for the score is mid to late 160s .(can be worse if my panic was worse than I am thinking now...)

In this situation, I am feeling it might be better to cancel the score since it is definitely not reaching my target score.

Can you guys give me some advice on this? Would there by any drawbacks in canceling score?

Also, just curious, is LG getting more difficult in very recent exams?

I just wonder I failed it because I wasn't in usual pace or just LG is getting way harder.

I couldn't solve PTs from 71, but for PTs in 50s and 60s I feel the difficulty level was lower than the actual exam.

I'm scared that maybe I bubbled my LG section wrong, simply because I needed to skip around between games, and I can't remember if I properly ended on #23. It is probably just my OCD side acting out, but I guess some reassurance would be nice. Do other people have this same worry?

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i just took October LSAT and I have no idea what happened. I found 7sage to late in the game so didn't have time to use a course. Is it bad to take Febrary LSAT? Will this give me enough time? I am only scoring around 151 so do I need more time. and take another year to study. (I am 25 -26 in February. - so is that too old to wait another year?) --sorry freaking out a little

feeling pretty uncertain about today's test, especially on two sections. i did OK first time and was confident about 3 sections instead of 2...

Finally. Thank you based logic games lessons.

And other lessons but seriously... I was posting here a month ago fretting about how bad my logic games score was (averaging -12). I'm now averaging (-3).

GAH! Really happy right now.

I’ve updated this to include a possible Monday morning (the actual time might change) BR Group session.

NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70s because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 76 available to PT at the end of November.

Times are PST

Sat Oct 3, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 70 (tentative)

Wed Oct 7, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 61

Fri Oct 9, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group (PT 71)

Sat Oct 10, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group (PT 72)

Mon Oct 12, 2015 -All day Columbus Day (regional holiday)

Wed Oct 14, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 62

Fri Oct 16, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 73

Sat Oct 17, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 63

Wed Oct 21, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 64

Fri Oct 23, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT74

Sat Oct 24, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 65

Mon Oct 26, 2015 - 9am - 12pm LSAT BR Group PT 50

Wed Oct 28, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 66

Fri Oct 30, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 75

Sat Oct 31, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT67

Mon Nov 2, 2015 - 9am - 12pm LSAT BR Group PT 51

Wed Nov 4, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 68

Fri Nov 6, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT super prep A

Sat Nov 7, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT69

Mon Nov 9, 2015 - 9am - 12pm LSAT BR Group PT 52

Wed Nov 11, 2015 (Veterans Day) - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 70

Fri Nov 13, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT super prep B

Sat Nov 14, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 71

Mon Nov 16, 2015 - 9am - 12pm LSAT BR Group PT 53

Wed Nov 18, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT72

Fri Nov 20, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT super prep 2

Sat Nov 21, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT73

Mon Nov 23, 2015 - 9am - 12pm LSAT BR Group PT 54

Wed Nov 25, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT74

Thu Nov 26, 2015 Thanksgiving Day

Fri Nov 27, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 75

Sat Nov 28, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group PT 76

Mon Nov 30, 2015 - 9am - 12pm LSAT BR Group PT 55

Wed Dec 2, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm LSAT BR Group Pep Rally

Sat Dec 5, 2015 - 8am - 12pm LSAT Actual

AND ... as always, PM me to be added to the groups.

I don't see how "H will go before G if and only if H is after F" translates to

G-H-F as one of the two possibilities.

(The second one was: F-H-G and I understand this)

Halp plz!

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy

I found this useful for games, is there some post or thing similar for reading comprehension?

I'm taking a break from watching worlds/ studying for contracts to say, good luck!

Don't tilt, if something frustrates you or distracts you, take a second to take a deep breath and stay focused.

Once you're in law school, the LSAT and all of the struggles will be a distant memory!

The real journey hasn't even started :P!

Hi, all. I just took the 10/3 LSAT. I was expecting to take the test in a particular classroom, Classroom A, that I am very familiar with. The testing center was changed to a new classroom last week, Classroom B. For the test today, though, I was assigned to a completely different room, Classroom C, than the one stated on the ticket I printed last night, albeit it was in the same building. I didn't realize that changing the room on the day of the exam was possible. Is this something I should just expect?

Additionally, the room I took the test in had really small desks. Really small. So small that the proctor even mentioned it. It is entirely my fault that I never once took a test on such a small desk. I don't have consistent access to one and Classroom A and B (where I thought I was taking the test) have large desks. I had a difficult time figuring out where to put my pencils, watch, answer sheet, and eraser. In the middle of the exam, some of my things fell off the desk. I was debating whether I should scramble to retrieve my things... and considering that one of those things was my watch, I went for it...

Do you have any specific advice about how I should position my papers and belongings on a small desk (I'm talking about one of those flip-up desks connected to a chair)? I usually have the practice test booklet laid flat so that I can see both pages-- should I fold the pages back so that I see only one page? That seems like an irrelevant limitation to what the test is supposed to measure. Also, because I did not practice on a small desk beforehand, I had to figure out the best place to put the answer sheet during the exam-- is it better to put it in your lap? Hold it in your non-dominant hand? Place it under the test booklet? I was nervous about putting it under the test booklet because I annotate the test and didn't want pressure to transfer to the Scantron. I'm prone to making Scantron errors so it's important to me that I fill in blocks of answers after every 2 pages or every logic game, but with a small desk, it was a huge waste of time to retrieve the answer sheet from where I had it (non-dominant hand, lap, underneath the booklet) after each of these blocks. Also, I had to hold some of my pencils between my knees under the desk because there was just no space on the desk. This is something I really need to be prepared for and would like serious advice as it is a huge issue for me.

I'm also curious about what your testing center was like. The June test-takers at my school said that the desks they had last time were huge (I know which ones they are talking about).

OK... Save the anti-drug bashing, but constructive criticism is invited. I've taken it since college and I've done pretty damn well with it. Now with two months left before the Dec. exam I'm starting to wonder if this is hindering my abilities. Sometimes it works great, other times not so much... For example, I'll dominate an LR section but the very next RC section I'll get lost in a passage and start to panic, which then throws me off come question time and vice/versa. I've been studying since June with it currently scoring in the high 150's low 160's... Is there anyone else here taking it who has a successful strategy with using it correctly? Perhaps a certain time of day you take it? Any specific foods you eat to maintain energy? I'm worried if I stop taking it altogether it will throw me off and by the time I recover and begin to excel it will be too late for the Dec. administration. Any suggestions or pity party invitations are graciously accepted, haha. Cheers #addywoes.

READY.

Unequivocally. Joyfully. Aggressively.

READY.

Hello everybody,

I was wondering if anybody could help clarify something for me. I am a little confused about diagramming the sentences with two "if (or unless)". How could I translate the following sentence into the formal lawgic?

"no plant is worth growing unless it bears fruit"

I tried this way " - bears fuits ----> (P ---> - WG) " but this structure is not helpful.

Is it okay to translate this into either one of the following?

" -bears fruits ---> P ---> --WG" or " - bears fruits + P ---> - WG"

Can anyone shed some light on this?

P.S: Please helpe me with the next one too

"New investment that takes place while interest rates are falling cannot lead to the huge growth"

I hope everyone does extremely well! Let's do this!!!!!!

Because having a social life is overrated.

SATURDAY, October 3rd at 8PM ET: PT70

Note:

1. Is there a limit to the number of pencils we can bring to the testing center or have on our desk during the test?

My mom gave me a weird look as I sharpened my ~20 pencils and I double-checked the guidelines which say we "must bring... (3) three or four sharpened No. 2 or HB pencils, with good erasers." I take it that this doesn't mean that we can ONLY bring 3/4?

2. Does chapstick count as a "medical product"? :P

Seriously though, I'm kind of addicted to it. I jokingly say that my greatest LSAT success wasn't (finally) getting -0 on Logic Games or (finally) breaking 170, but rather managing to go an entire section without putting on chapstick. I can definitely live without it tomorrow, but it'd be nice to have it on me...just in case.

Like I said, these are dumb questions and I'm not stressing over them. But it'd be nice to know now vs. tomorrow.

Thanks and good luck everyone!

I just recently decided to take the LSAT and I am studying for the Dec. test. I am nervous that I will not be ready for the Dec. test and end up taking the Feb. test. For personal reasons, I really want to start school in Fall 2016 and not wait another year. My top two school choices both are still accepting applications until the beginning of April and one is accepting until May. However, both are on rolling admissions, which I know significantly will lower my chances.

I guess I need some guidance if it is unrealistic to think that applying that late in the game will still get me in for the upcoming Fall. Taking the test in February would give me more time to prepare and I would most likely get a higher LSAT score but it puts me applying so late in the process.

Any advice or opinions is greatly appreciate!

*please don't quote

i am in a dilemma regarding whether to take the test this Saturday. i had been scoring at my target of 173 in the retakes of the tests but on the only 2 fresh tests that i did this year in the last 2 weeks, i was much below the target, mainly due to rc. i also missed some silly points on lg so i think i can go near perfect on a normal lg section.

pt 72: -18, 166, rc -9, lr1 -0, lr2 -4, lg -5

pt 75: -13, 168, rc -6, lr1 -2, lr2 -2, lg -3

i have already 2 scores so this take is pretty much it. if everything goes normally i think i'd still be sitting at -11/-13, which would still be below my target. so i am unsure whether to withdraw and do december or just take it now.

how could one decide?

is there any point in doing a 73/74 rc (which are fresh for me) and seeing again if the section goes better?

Has anyone ever taken this? It's being offered at a location near the real exam but I can't find any information on what I need to bring.

Are there 7Sage mods/reps commenting on students answers reported below videos to correct any mistakes students make when they attempt to solve problems? If so, do these reps/mods have an official avatar or a 7sage sign so we can quickly identify them? One of the reasons why I ran away from the Manhattan forums is that it took a good amount of time to weed through incorrect answers/explanations. Please help 7Sage?

Also is there a way to print one's notes or save them in a PDF format?

Thanks

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Can someone break this one down? I don't see how B is incorrect, and I don't see how E is correct. Isn't one of the flaws in the argument a past to present flaw (line 6)? Doesn't B call this assumption out that an education party could be different than what has been historically true?

Also, for E, I eliminated it because I thought it strengthened the argument! Isn't the conclusion that the education party isn't going to be viable in the long run? The percent of people is too low for historical standards, and stating that even fewer people would join the party would strengthen that support right? Isn't that what answer choice E does?

Ok, folks. Let's discuss options for BR groups heading towards December.

We have two matters to consider:

1) Which tests to BR

I think the top priority is to get all the way through PT75 (June '15). We have approximately 15 sessions between now and November 30th if we meet twice weekly (with PT61 happening this Wednesday), which should be the last group call for the Dec 6th test.

That means we have to make a choice between:

1) Staying the course and doing PT60s all the way to 75 in sequential order.

2) Something else? I’m not sure if there’s a better course, but I’m open to ideas.

My question to you: Which course do we follow?

2) When to do the groups

I propose the following. Please either respond to this thread or PM me if you have strong objections.

—Every Saturday at 8pm EST (note the time change). Our sessions have been averaging around 3 hours (shorter than previous sessions) and I do not think 11pm is too late for most of the East Coasters to wrap up the call.

—Every Wednesday at 8pm EST (if we have a lot of West Coasters who work full time, we can perhaps find some wiggle room depending on how long your commutes are. I hesitate to set it any later as that would push the East Coasters near midnight by the time we finish)

----Friday Special! We do PT70 through PT75 over the next several Fridays; please specify if you want to do this special session—some of us want the opportunity to take these later tests twice before the December test date. Maybe after that, we can play with some older tests in the 40s to switch it up??

My question to you: Do these days work for you?

To all who have participated or reached out to me about participating: Please make your lovely voices heard!

And as always ... If you want to join in on some BR fun, PM me with your Skype handle.