http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-67-section-2-question-13/

I've no idea where to begin on this. Twas the only question I missed in the section.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-2-question-20/

Can someone break this down? I thought B was the least attractive answer, and it turned out to be correct. I am completely clueless on this one; I can't even make heads or tails of the argument. Is it saying that since TV caused music videos to exist, then those that think music videos are art should also think TV gave rise to a type of art? But how is B anything like this? There is no causal indicators in B and there is no comparison in the original passage (like there is in B).

For all of those taking the Dec. LSAT tomorrow evening we will start with PT 42.

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@nicole.hopkins

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Hi everyone,

I've been a 7Sager for quite sometime but just the quiet type. I've been studying on an off for this test for over 18 months now, juggling work and study just as many of you are. During this last stretch I've been performing my best: BRs in high 170s and timed PTs in the high 160s. but, I have a huge problem that i can't seem to control. During the course of preparing for this test I've noticed that as i pick up the pace with studying, i start to develop a situation where, I could read the same sentence ten times and not understand a word. It's almost as if someone turns of a switch in my brain and i go dark. when this happens, everything suffers: RC, LR, LG. I'm still able to BR pretty high but my timed PTs are horrible. I've tried reading hobby related material or something not LSAT involved but the trend follows.

This test surely brings out the best and worst of me.

If anyone out there could offer some advice i would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.

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Happy studying.

Hey guys,

I came across a main point question from preptest June 2004 Section 3 #23 "Each of many different human hormones can by itself raise the concentration of glucose in the blood"

I can't understand why the first sentence isn't the main point. I'm having a difficult time understanding why the second sentence, the sentence explaining the phenomena is the main point. This argument structure was very confusing to me..

Thanks so much in advance

Just thought I'd share some great news. Took preptest 38 yesterday and scored 166 and a 170 after BR, which is my highest score ever with 7sage or PS. I barely broke 160 with PS and I scored a 165 on 7sage on Preptest 36. Not that I had doubts, but this really just reinforces my love for 7sage and their techniques. For anyone having trouble or stressing out, just know that you will get better as long as you put in some effort. Just for reference, I scored a 156 on the June LSAT using PS after having studied for 3 months. I work full-time and was concussed in April playing hockey so the concussion symptoms and post-concussion symptoms made it tough to focus (which I didn't realize until just recently, I guess I now know what to sat to schools when I explain my one LSAT is higher, hopefully, than the other). Again, the reason I am sharing is just to encourage others, even if you have a lot of obstacles, a job, injury, etc., you can still score well, just work hard. Good luck!

Hello,

I had a few questions about my current prep and figured the answers might be helpful for some of the other retakers out there. Long story short I have been "flirting" with the LSAT for about a year now. I took a prep course last fall, bought the LSAT Trainer, took the 7sage course, canceled my feb score, and then grossly underperformed in June (164). That leaves me studying for October with my 3rd and final LSAT try with the high hopes of getting into a top 5 law school. I have taken pretty much every recent LSAT (2000 and up) and score on my PTS generally range anywhere from 171-177. With 6 weeks left I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions on what to do to be in peak performance for October 3rd. I also am curious what sort of time you think I should be putting in on a daily or weekly basis to avoid burnout but still improve my skills and stay fresh. My current plan was to review the 7sage course and the LSAT Trainer, train flash cards, do a couple of sections with BR every day, and take a PT on Saturdays. I was also thinking about taking sections and tests with a 30 or 32 minutes time frame in order to challenge myself. I also have considered taking 2PTs back to back to build stamina. Sorry for the long winded post, I am looking forward to hearing your responses. Thanks!

Jake

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-64-section-1-question-22/

I completely understand the argument core and the correct answer. However, upon review, I am confused with the way a Manhattan expert eliminates (A).

https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/forums/q22-microbiologist-because-heavy-metals-t5572.html

(See the comment by rinagoldfield. Last post when I last checked. )

Is answer (A) strengthening the correlation between "metal resistance" and "antibacterial resistance" ? According to rinagoldfield, it is. She argued that (A) is incorrect because it strengthens correlation and not the causation. I am confused for two reasons:

1. I think that Mike Kim said somewhere in The Trainer that correlation, although can't prove causation, is perfectly okay to strengthen the causation. (I only glimpsed through the Trainer, let me know if I am daydreaming what this.)

2. I would have interpreted the correlation in (A) as between "not metal resistance" and "not antibacterial resistance" instead of between "metal resistance" and "antibacterial resistance" Am I missing something?

Thank you everyone in advance for trying to help!

Hello LSATers,

how many PTs should I do the week leading to the Oct 3 LSAT? i was thinking of 3 but I am wondering if that's too few

I don't know how representative my score is when I see what I get on the PT that I split up to use as a 5th section for 4 other tests, but I got a much higher score than I have been getting recently and I suspect, aside from regular fluctuations in performance, that a big factor behind this boost is the mental preparation I do beforehand. What I mean is that I'll insert the first "experimental" section at the very beginning of a PT, then I'll put the second section as the second, the third as the third, etc.

I read that people recommend doing a game, a few LR questions and one RC passage before doing the actual test the day of. I'm not too much of a morning person but I've been trying to wake up earlier. It hasn't been that easy and I know that grogginess can definitely hinder my performance. What I'm trying to figure out is if my experimental PT (the one I split up) is better because most, if not all, of the sections are written after having done another section from the "real" one I'm doing that day. Perhaps this is just speculation but I'm wondering if people have gotten into the habit of doing some light preparation before going into their PT and noticed an improvement. I hope this post made sense. Essentially, I think if I can wake up earlier, it will save me a few points.

I'm writing in October. Although the examination time is listed at 8:30, I know it doesn't start exactly then. Nonetheless, what time do you suggest I wake up to not feel groggy and to prepare by eating and doing some light prep? When I simulate/do PTs, should I be starting my test at exactly 8:30?

In a recent reply to someone's post, I saw @Pacifico recommend using a clean sheet for BR. I'd never thought of doing that before and my BR scores have been in the 168-180 range the last several months. I wanted to hear your different views on why you choose to use your old copy or use a clean copy when BRing. Personally, I like using my old copies so that I can see which questions I circled. I also find it useful to try and dissect my thought process the first time I answered a question so I can see where I went wrong on some questions. Inevitably though, on the toughest questions I do second-guess myself and have a hard time making a decision between two answer choices (my old one and a different one). Definitely thinking about switching to clean copies to see if it helps my BR scores increase. What do you guys think?

Alright folks... I feel as though I'm missing some brain cells when I do SA and PSA questions. I just did the Marsupials question.. I'm certain some of you know that one. And MY GOODNESS what a fucking terrible combination of sentences!!!! I'm going to go take a break before I decide to throw my computer into a pit of fire. But what am I missing??????? I've reviewed the SA section a couple times because I still lack in this area. I've now memorized the valid and invalid argument forms and have scored perfectly on the logic quizzes leading up to the actual SA questions, but when the questions are incredibly convoluted, i get really lost and my logic game goes south.

Can someone just give me a vote of confidence or tell me how they overcame their struggle with these type of questions? Please know that I am complaining, but not giving up. I am going to keep drilling, just needed a little venting and break time.

But seriously, fuck these questions.

:-) Sliz

Hi guys,

I am very nervous and depressed after taking 5 PTs and looking for advice for my October LSAT.

My diagnostic around early June was a 161. I have spent 7 weeks on 7sage and Manhatton, and also finished the Cambridge LSAT by category. I have taken 5 PTs in the past two week. However, it looks like I am plateauing at around 168-169 and my goal is to get a 170+ on test day.

As for LR, in the past 5 tests I went -7 (pt 70), -6 (pt57), -4 (pt 55), -4(pt73), -9(pt58). In light of question types, totally, I missed 5 for MSS, 5 NA, 5 Flaw, 2 PF, 3 Weaken, 3 Strengthen, 2 Resolve reconcile, 1 MBF, 1MC, 1Para, 1 Argument part and 1 Misc. I feel that 20% of these questions are really difficult that I could not figure out the correct answer by myself. Another 20% are really simple that I either misread the question stem (like misread weakening question as strengthen question) or overlook a key word. The remaining are the ones I am struggling between two choices and end up with the wrong one. Also, for the correct questions, I am also not certain for about 15% of the questions.

As for RC, I went -6 (pt 70), -4 (pt57), -2 (pt 55), -6(pt73), -4(pt58). I am bad at the questions with answers in abstract language, and the analogy question. And some times I have trouble with the difficult words.

As for LG, I went -0 (pt 70), -3 (pt57), -1 (pt 55), -0(pt73), -0(pt58).

Overall I'm having a really hard time making the marginal gains I need to get myself consistently above 170. This is almost my last chance to take LSAT, therefore, I really want to do well. Please do not hesitate to give me any advice you regard as helpful. Also, I am wondering if I need to hire a personal tutor since there is only 5 weeks left. Thank you guys.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-24/

Hi friends! I want to make sure that my reasoning is on the ball for this question, since I got it wrong the first time around.

Clarification before you read on: everything in parenthesis is taken from the stimulus, and anything not in parentheses is from the respective answer choice. I mostly need help distinguishing more clearly, A, D, and E from each other.

(A): At least one of the players in the orchestra (at least one of the joists in the wall) must have made a mistake (must have broken), since nothing else would have made the conductor grimace in the way she just did (since nothing else could have caused a bulge).

(B) doesn't match up a "fault" or a "cause" with why something must have occurred, and there is no "at least" element, either; (C) this seems pretty out of scope, especially with the X do Y only when Z

(D): This is the answer I incorrectly picked at first, with some hasty logic like: "Oh, if they are playing a piece of music that has a harp (if there is a bulge), then at least one of the players must play the harp (just like at least one of the joists must be broken). VERY BAD, I know, and answer choice (A) matches up much better. Not to mention, that (A) correctly matches the stimulus in its noting of "at least" and (D) notes "one" -- which is not a correct match.

(E) this also seems out of scope, but has those tricky, creepy, psych elements that JY talks about. "The emotion of the music is the only thing" (could be equated with the joist being the only thing), that could have caused the conductor to look so angry (that could have caused the bulge) just then, since the orchestra was playing perfectly. SEE, here there is no parallel available for the "just then" and the "since the orchestra was playing perfectly" - there is no "the wall was fine and then suddenly there was a snap noise" and so "just then, the joist could have been the only thing for the bulge," etc.

Am I making any sense?

I'm usually totally fine with these types of questions. Any thoughts?

Just got a 144, blind review 151 on my first ever PT (June 2007). I've only been studying for about 2 months, and I'm not very far into the course. Thus, I know my score will naturally improve by December or Feb when I take it for real.

However, that score is absolutely terrible, obviously, and I'm more than a little bit scared. Would love to hear from some other fellas and ladies; where did you guys start out when you just began studying? Is 144/151 a normal PT for my stage of the game? My goal is roughly 160 or higher for the schools that interest me. Fully aware that I'm not T14 material, but I also am not going to go to some scrub school just so I can say I have a law degree. I'm striving for slightly above average, which means improving approx 15-20 points. Is this realistic???

Sweating this....

Hey all,

How do you find consistency in how you approach the most difficult LR questions, e.g. the 5 star difficulty questions? I find during a timed test, I may or may not recognize these evil creatures. Sometimes they are obvious, but sometimes the right answer is so subtle, or the wrong answer is so tricky, that it completely flies over my head and I unfortunately felt confident about my reasoning. Does reviewing the questions over and over help?

Some of these most difficult questions seem so unique, in the way they are worded, or the way the argument is constructed. Not as formulaic as the easier questions. I want to find strategies so that they don't keep tripping me up. Thoughts?

Some examples

PT 72-S2-Q16

PT 72-S2-Q23

PT 72-S2-Q25

Heh, PT 72 was no picnic...

Thank you as always!

Julia

I cannot find full test booklets for prep tests 39-51. Must one buy these individually? If not,would someone please post a link to where these tests can be purchased in a booklet. Thanks!

I've been doing 3 PTs a week for the last month.

The goal was to go through 39-75 until the Oct test date.

(Currently at 57 )

I've been realizing that the progress is slow and I am feeling burnt out.

So I've decided to do 2 PTs/week instead even though I may not get through all the prep tests.

I will spend more time reviewing questions from old tests as well as thorough BRs.

Furthermore, if I have to retake in December, I may still have a few fresh prep tests left.

Does this sound like a solid plan?

Or should I stick to doing all PTs before the Oct exam?

Thanks!

Alright, I already took and canceled my July 2015 score and registered for the October test. I have been studying all summer and I am now taking PTs. I am at PT 58 and I plan to go up to PT 74. I still cannot seem to finish any of the sections in time (I usually need like 3-5 more minutes for each). And to top it off, I consistently score at 159 and BR at 168. I'd like to score in the 170s.

I know I put it in a way that already sounds bad but, in all honesty, do you guys think I should postpone for December? It would be great if I could at least touch 170. But honestly, is it humanly possible for me to do it in the October one? If not, I should probably know soon to alter the study schedule I have set up.

:(

So I've been printing out pdf versions of tests to practice test as well as using the book of 10 that you can buy that is in softcover form or whatever. My question is, since the lsat is a ton of pages (like 40+) how is the actual test given?(is it just all of the sections stapled into one big group or is each section stapled separately to be easier to work with?) Because those book form tests are annoying because you have to hold them from trying to change the page or close on their own.

I've never taken the LSAT yet and I don't believe I'll be hitting my target score come October. I want a 169+ and it's really aggravating since LG is the section that's holding me back. In addition, I have some timing issues and am barely able to complete sections with a few minutes to spare. If I postpone to December, I think I'll improve in both LG and timing.

Now, I really want to apply for the upcoming cycle yet I also want to do my best. Postponing to December will hurt my chances for the upcoming cycle since I'll be late in the game + I won't have the option for a retake. But again, I want to take the real test knowing that I'm capable of hitting my target score.

Also, it doesn't help having parents and siblings continuously putting pressure on you. I've been studying since April, postponed to October after having initially signed up for the June administration, and now it looks like I'll have to postpone to December. And it's not due to laziness, rather it's taking a bit longer than I thought it would. The LSAT is hard! I wish everyone were as understanding as the people on this forum; my friends and family just don't understand how much work is required to hit a 170+ on this test.

And lastly, does anyone know how many practice exams one should take before his/her first exam? Should you save 5-10 practice exams for a potential retake?

Hi y'all,

I'm aiming to take the LSAT in October. My average PT score is 1 pt under my goal, with wide variation (9 pt range) and I haven't started taking 5 section PTs.

Suggestions how to avoid plateau-ing/burning out in these last weeks? Also, when to start taking 5 section PTs?

Thanks!

I originally signed up for October, but that's just not happening anymore. So I decided to sit out this cycle and study hard throughout the winter. Anyone else considering the February LSAT? Just created a schedule up until the end of January, and would love to connect with others to keep each other accountable.

Hey guys!

I'm still a bit new to this website, so I apologize if there are other threads that are similar to this one. I'm looking to see if there are any students close to the Toronto area that are planning to write the December 2015 LSAT. Which law schools are you interested in applying to, and what mark are you hoping to achieve? I am not certain on where I would like to go just yet, and am instead focusing on obtaining a high score on the upcoming test.

Would love to chat with fellow students in the area. Always nice to talk to other students about their plans and/or experiences :)