Hey guys, what's the consensus on drilling the weird games from the early 90's? I''m not finding that similar inferences come across these games and I don't know if doing one will help with another. However, I understand that these styles of games have been popping up again on modern LSAT's but unless I'm completely missing something here, I'm finding that a lot of intuitive inferences arise from the individual games, but don't parallel across the misc game range. I've been doing them for the sake of flexing some mental muscles here and there, but not necessarily drilling using the Fool Proof Method.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--

I took the one less traveled by,

And that has made all the difference.

I just reread this poem after I wonder why I chose law school. I remember last year my mom and uncle said law school does not fit me since it is too hard. They said I should just choose an easy major and get an easy job. However, I know that an easy job can't win me a green card and there is no shortcut to success. Today, after I read this poem, I realize that I choose a path that lots of international students do not choose. That makes all the difference. What do you guys think of this poem? Besides the LSAT, we can still have some discussions for fun to avoid burn-out. :)

Hello 7sagers,

Have you read the book "Tomorrow's Lawyers"?

http://www.amazon.com/Tomorrows-Lawyers-Introduction-Your-Future/dp/019966806X

I don't even know whether I should recommend it to you before the LSAT since it is quite pessimistic about the legal profession.

In a nutshell, the writer predicts that in decades most law firms need to, if not be forced to, ultimately transform themselves to survive in the market due to the new technology. He also claims that the apogee of legal profession was in 2006, and most law firms charge much more than they deserve, merely because corporations used to pay since it seems only small percentage of a given deal.

The author's argument is that most well-paid lawyers currently only provide technical services, which is not as professional as it seems and can be replaced by new technologies.

Since I am not a lawyer and not familiar with the firm milieu, I can't tell whether it is true or not.

I believe that some of you like me don't pursuit the law degree just for a lucrative job, but I am still concerned about the future, especially when it comes to paying back loans.

I would love to hear any of your opinions, for the book, for future, etc.

I just wanted to open a discussion on how everyone is dealing with struggle when in comes to studying specific sections. I am a self study and I find myself getting very emotionally attached when not performing well when studying. It then makes me feel discouraged, but the opposite is true. If I do well I will spend extras hours studying to boost my confidence. How do y'all handle this struggle? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-06/

i had quite a difficult time w/ question 3. During my timed approach I did not find an answer during the blond review I found the answer but only b/c it *seemed* the most plausible.

Excerpt from passage: ...important trading route linking China and Europe and it's a popular stopover for pilgrims on route between Morroco and Mecca.

Answer C: the purse "HAD" been brought to the ancient city by a pilgrim on route between Morocco and Meca

From the excerpt I'm concluding that the purse could potentially been brought by someone from China, Europe, Morocco, or Mecca. From the excerpt are we to assume that people accessing the trading port from China or Europe (don't stop over)?

What threw me off is the word (HAD) in the answer choice. Which is why I was reluctant to choose C as the answer. However, if the assumption is that those accessing the trading port don't stop over then it becomes a little more clear.

Looking back at my journey in studying for this pet peeve called the LSAT, I feel as though the prep course I took gypped me of my money (actually, my mom's money because she wanted to help me pay for the course)! I want a refund (too late now, of course)! Wow, I've purchased one too many LSAT study guides that have taught me completely nothing (except for the LSAT Trainer). All I have to say is, 7Sage you're a godsend! I am only on my third week of the course, but I can definitely say I feel more confident in being able to conquer the LSAT because of 7Sage. Thanks for reading! Back to the grind!

I was PTing in the 157-161 range for 2 weeks. Today, i took PT 54 and scored 167.

I am not complaining... but I am confused.

I did everything the same as I always do. Maybe it was a fluke? I will have to take a couple more PTs to see, I guess.

Is it normal to see a 10 point jump like this? Has this happened to anyone else?

Hi, guys, I am confused with the relationship between "causation" and conditional logic. Could anyone give me some help? According to the lessons, it seems that "A causes B" = A-->B. However, in PT25-S4-Q12, this rule does not seem to work. In the stimulus, "the school principle insisted that student failures are caused by bad teaching." Then, he concludes that since failing grades disappeared, the teaching had improved at the school. This is a parallel flaw question. I am wondering what is the flaw. Isn't it that bad teaching --> failure, here, /failure, therefore,/bad teaching? I also find several similar questions in the PTs. Therefore, I really need your help. Thank you so much.

Hey, I have LSAT Ultimate. Are some of the lessons locked for you guys? I thought this course path included everything.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-2-question-07/

can someone please explain the reasoning behind the answer to this? thnx so much.

I realize this is subjective, but I have the opportunity to take a week off from work in September. If I don't take this vacation time, I could cash it out when I leave next summer. So just to get a feel from you all, what would you pay assuming it wouldn't break the bank but would be a significant amount of money? Thanks!

Hi All,

I did the whole community college thing for two years before transferring to uni (hey it was 100% FREE & I racked up a bunch of free $ w/ transfer scholarships). Am I "lying" if I don't include the information on my resume? I don't think that LSAC even has room on the app portion for a college before a bachelor's. I've since removed the degree from my professional resume because it doesn't really matter since I now have a professional degree (but will always be in my heart....awwww).

Thanks

I was struggling to answer the questions within the allotted time on LC. However, I am now at a point where I am able to answer 20 of the 25. The issue is that I guess on the last five, but seem to have lost accuracy. It's not that I have gotten any worse, it's just that I thought by answering more questions that would improve my score. It has either dropped or staying the same. Is this the correct approach?

Hey, is it possible for me to purchase just one part of the syllabus? I've already studied Reading Comprehension and Logic Reasoning and I'm perfect with those sections, I just want to buy the section for the Logic games explanations (not the test explanations, which are already free), but the actual explanations on the concepts.

After studying The Trainer, as well as here at 7Sage. I realized that there really is much to grasp than what appears on the surface. Learning the fundamentals and building one's skills is vital to success. My original goal was to take the December LSAT, although I had from the start a four month prep period, I don't feel I can master these skills yet. (I need a 165+) In addition, I want to participate in an internship to add to my law school application.

My Question IS: How should I prepare to take the LSAT a year from now? I don't want to burn myself out, but at the same time not take things too slowly. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also any tips to improve my resume/law school application would be great!

What kind of study regiment have you wonderful 7sagers developed for yourselves? For those that want to contribute, please be as concise in your comments so it's easily digestible for other 7sagers. Thanks!

I'll start with my regiment:

1. Meditation in the morning

2. Healthy breakfast (you can ask me in PM what I have if you're really that curious)

3. Head to my local library early

4. PT in the a.m.

5. BR in the p.m.

6. Dinner

7. Wind down, shower, and sleep.

Does it make sense to delay going to law school by a whole year only on the basis of wanting more time to raise your LSAT score? I only ask because it seems as though there are a lot of things in life that we wish we could have more time to prepare for but it's not always necessarily wise to take that time off. In theory having an extra year to study would mean I would definitely get into a better law school than if I simply took the Oct or Dec test, but if my only reason is because of a single exam then I'm not so sure I'd be justified.

Hello fellow 7sagers!

I have started preparing for the October LSAT since the end of April. I have bought into numerous kinds of books such as Kaplan, Princeton Review and Barron's. I worked on studying the strategies and the fundamentals until about June and then I did a timed PT. I scored 150 on it. I thought this wasn't too bad considering my first try. However, I figured out soon that I wasn't making the most efficient practice of the questions because I did another 2 timed PT's and my score worsened each time by about 1 point.

I enrolled in the premium package about a month ago (roughly- give or take a few days). I have been plowing through the lessons since then and I am about 90% through the 128h material. I have been following every instruction JY and his team has been putting out in the lessons. I practice about 6-7 hours a day 6 days a week. I can say that I am definitely seeing improvements because, unlike before with the other prep material, now I actually have learned the fundamental lessons and I know exactly why an answer is right and why the others are wrong. Now it is really just down to practice practice practice. With just under 2 months left, I am about to start again into timed PTs this week. I am hoping with all the knowledge I have gained through 7sage, my score will improve. I do feel however that I have wasted some of my time by practicing with the other prep material that hasn't been so useful. I am hoping that I will be prepared enough to write a score in the low to mid 160s in October. Of course, there is still December if need be to re-write. I am located in Canada, roughly near the Michigan-Canada border. My goal is to attend a U.S. law school. As far as academic credentials go, I hold B.A. in Criminology and an M.A. in Criminology (with thesis research) from the same institution, as well as two forthcoming publications in academic journals. Both degrees with 3.90+ GPAs.

I would just like to see where others are and what their situation in. This is mine at the moment and if anyone has advice out there or suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it!

Does anyone want to get a JD but not actually practice law/ be a lawyer? This isn't my story (I want to be a lawyer) but I am curious to learn about people who actually want a JD but don't intend to use it in the traditional sense. What the heck are you thinking?

Did any one also find Prep Test 45 easier than any other PTs?

I scored 5 points higher than my average PT score for the past two weeks.

As someone who already went through a prep course (TestMasters) but is interested in purchasing the LSAT Ultimate course package, are there some video samples of the LR explanation videos available as preview? Since I have a good grasp on the fundamentals, I don't think I will benefit as much from the lessons (maybe someone can prove me wrong though) but the video explanations sound like a great way to review LR answers. Can someone attest to the benefits of these videos?

So I took the LSAT 3 years ago and got a 147. Since a year ago, I've been half-ass studying and have been PTing at around 157-160. With intense studying for 2 months...is it possible for me to get to minimum 167 for the october exam? It seems so impossible to get to the mid-high 160s. I don't even know HOW to study and what is effective studying. I have 5 brand new PTs that I haven't touched. I really want to go to a top 14 law school. I really want to be done with this exam...and go to law school next fall. I've been delaying it since last June because I'm not scoring what I want. How do I need to study and how many hours? Is it really possible? My worst sections are LR and RC. I'm feeling so hopeless...

All groups now meeting at 7pm ET except the meeting on Weds 8/12 which will be 8pm ET. Folks with schedule restraints—please just join when you can. You won't miss much. Any serious objections, please PM me.

BR Groups, Week of August 12th: Weds (PT61), Fri (PT74), Sat (PT62)

What do we say to the LSAT when it comes a-lurkin'?

Intellectually claw it in the face.

Wednesday, August 12th at 7PM ET: PT61

Our first victim of the week.

Friday, August 14th at 7PM ET: PT74

It's gonna be awesome. Just a reminder that we'll retake this test in September.

LSATurday, August 15th at 7PM ET: PT62

I'll be at a special baseball event this evening, but many others will be ready for you to join them in the intellectual slaughter.

Note on all groups

So I've been drilling logic games with the Cambridge packets and have done pretty well with the games I've drilled. Timing and accuracy were both very good. Then, a few days ago, I transitioned to timed logic games sections and I've been depressed ever since. I've been going -5,-7 on all of my timed sections and these were on sections that 7sage rated "easiest."

I've realized that the Cambridge packets actually hurt my LG ability and I'll explain why: As Pacifico mentioned in his LG guide, they key skill to scoring high on the LG section is determining the correct setup. With the Cambridge packets I already knew what type of game I was drilling and so I would just draw out my board without really reading much of the rules. I was simply a machine. Now when I take LG sections it is often difficult for me to figure out the correct setup and it's killing my confidence and score. With two months out from the October test I fear that I won't be able to conquer the logic games section before the exam. This, coupled with the fact that October is really my last hope if I want to realistically apply for the 2016 cycle, has been causing me a lot of anxiety. I'm writing this post so that I hope someone learns from my mistake. Drill full logic games sections instead of working on specific game types. I believe it's the most effective strategy.

Today I took a PT and logic games was my first section. Absolutely bombed it and couldn't recover the rest of the exam. The entire test all I was thinking about was the terrible LG section but I made sure to just push through and finish the rest of the exam since this may happen on test day and I have to learn to adapt. Haven't blind reviewed yet but I'm guessing I practiced 10 points lower than my average. It's been a really disappointing week and if anyone can provide me with some advice/encouragement I'd appreciate it greatly.

Good luck studying everyone!

I am unable to open the videos. If it gets open then only for 3 seconds it gets buffered and later on it stop working. Have checked with different internet connections too. I think there is some technical issue from the website.

Please help to solve this issue as early as possible.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Regards,

Aditi Shukla