My question is this:

Is the syllabus scaffolded in such a way for me to perform better on all parts of the test or should I be mixing in practice questions along with the courses/lessons? I guess what I'm really trying to ask is, how much practice should I be doing outside of the courses to improve?

Because as I finish one part of the syllabus I feel as if I haven't mastered that part.. Should I continue through the course syllabus and then return to practice questions for places I need improvement? Or should I master one part of the LSAT then move to the next course?

I'm sorry for the confusing/ambiguous nature of this question...

- Charlie

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-2-question-21

Struggling so hard with why C is right and E is wrong. I didn't like either answer choice but under time pressure, chose E because thought C was challenging the premise. I've watched JY's vid and read the available forum posts. I get that "implausible" leaves room for the premise to be bent. But all this is just muddled in my brain now.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain this in a different way so I can find a way for this to stick in my head and figure out how to attack similar questions in the future and where I went wrong!

fairly simple question, how much more would a law school be willing to accept a student with a high LSAT score but a low GPA?

for some background: currently my GPA is a 2.0 with a year and a half's worth of credits underneath my belt and 2 and a half years left to go (7.5/20 credits to graduate; 5 credits a year). i was in a flux with my first three years of college not knowing what to do and underachieving/dropping classes. ever since i decided to go to law school last summer i made a serious effort to change my life around and completely became a different person. i also addressed my ADHD, depression, anxiety, and sleep problems so im in a much better position than i was before. Now i do whatever it takes to get my grades as high as i can so i can go above a 3 at least. in order to graduate on time to start law school by next august i basically have to do 2.5 years of school in 1.5 years. apart from school i study for the LSAT whenever i can and also be more involved with my fraternity.

with that all said, my dream law school is Vanderbilt Law. i havent been able to visit being all the way from canada but from my research it just seem ideal for me in terms of location, atmosphere, environment, academic quality, etc. I also know that the schools tuition alone is ~$50,000. because of that i have committed myself to scoring over a 170 on test day. its higher than the 75%ile of 168 but i want to earn a full ride. i am confident that if i study, and work hard i can get the score.

My fear is that even with a high lsat score i wont be accepted or wont get the kind of scholarship money im going for (i fall under under represented minority but i dont use that as a crutch). Am i overthinking this or am i reasonable to worry? (i literally cannot go a day anymore without thinking about being accepted to the school, its that bad) any sort of guidance would help please!!

U.S. News is going to release the new law school rankings on Wednesday, March 16th.

Hello everyone!

I wanted to take a moment to formally introduce myself to the 7Sage LSAT community. I am located in Nevada and hope to someday go to the UNLV Boyd School of Law. I am very excited to be a part of this community and hope the learning experience will be fun.

I have been using the free LG explanations and have seen drastic improvement--from getting around 8 right to only missing 1 or 2. I did this in about 12 weeks time (now if only my LR and RC would follow suit XD ). I was initially enrolled in a Testmasters course for the June LSAT, but the class ended up getting cancelled because of low enrollment. Between the time I started my prep 12 weeks ago and the date my TM course was supposedly going to start, I became infatuated with the 7Sage processes and learning methods. I really feel like it is a great bunch of people in this community. The only thing holding me back from formally enrolling was finances. I had already dropped $1500 on the TM course and did not have any spare cash to pay for 7Sage on top of TM. Fortunately for me, TM ended up being a flop, and I was able to get my money back. I have decided to make 7Sage my go to for LSAT prep. I can't help but think that this was meant to be.

Since I have only been prepping about 12 weeks, I am still very new to all of this. Feel free to drop any advice for this LSAT noob! Thus far I have only been through the PS bibles and the first half of the The Trainer. My initial diagnostic was 142 and my highest has been a 148. No too bad for self prep I think, but I am definitely in need of more help. Goal score is 165. I have only taken 5 PT's and they have all been in the 140s. That said, I think I am ready to kick it into gear with the LSAT and work my ass off.

Anywho, that's my story in a nutshell. Thank you in advance for all of the insightful lessons to come.

-DJ

Thank you 7Sage. I just received an acceptance email from my UNM. It was my #1 choice all along, since I live in New Mexico and intend on a career in environmental law and policy - and that schools has the a good clinical and natural resources elective. Anyhoo - yes, I did work my ass off and yes there was much blood, sweat and tears - but really JY Ping saved me sorry behind and for that, I thank you.

PS. On friday, I got priority wait listed by CU Boulder. But that's another story.

Proctors: One proctor in the room, her accent was quite strong but she spoke very slowly so I was still able to understand her.

Facilities: The LSAT was on one floor of the building, very easy to find with multiple testing rooms.

What kind of room: The room was small but everyone had an entire desk to themselves and there were plenty of windows, so the lighting was perfect. Also had a beautiful view of the North Shore mountains and the Lion's Gate bridge so that wasn't too bad either ;)

How many in the room: I think there were about 8 people writing the exam in one room, which was great because it didn't feel crowded at all.

Desks: Desks were huge! And there was only one person per desk, so tons of room!

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Perfect. I was worried that with the test centre being downtown there would be a lot of traffic/construction noise but it was silent.

Parking: I got a ride down, but I imagine you'd be paying an arm and a leg if you decide to park. It is downtown Vancouver after all :/

Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~30 mins

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments: I'd highly recommend this location over BCIT or UBC if you live in the Lower Mainland. Very few people chose this location in comparison.

Would you take the test here again?: I will never take the LSAT again for as long as I live. But if someone put a gun to my head, then yes, I'd chose this location again :D

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Saturday, October 3rd, 2015

Hi all,

I have been studying off of the Powerscore for a month or so before signing up with 7Sage. I have made some great gains through Powerscore but I felt I needed something more. I didn't want to take an onsite class after reviewing some of the instructors ( they can really make or break a learning experience) and found that online studying's self pace makes it easy to adjust the curriculum to one's learning curve.

I was just wondering if anyone has switched from a self study like Powerscore to 7Sage, how are you studying? Do you supplement 7Sage with the self study book?

In my case, I have the Powerscore material and am thinking about going through the core curriculums simultaneously. For example, I would watch all 7Sage "main point" videos and then jump straight into Powerscore "main point" chapter right after. I'm not sure if that double whammy would work for or against me. The concerns are 1. conflicting techniques that counter each other and 2. time (it would take way more time to go through both)

Then another thought is to just go through the 7Sage core curriculum as soon as possible so I can jump into the PT's, since the actual PT's will be the true studying. ... any thoughts, comments, suggestions are welcome.

Please excuse typos.

So, I’ve been self studying for almost a year, but just started with 7Sage and quit my job to study full time; and I’ve already used two of my LSAT attempts. So, if I take it in June I’ll have to either rush the curriculum or miss out on a lot of PTs and BRs. If I take it in September, I’m worried I won’t have enough PTs to last (18 left and only 6 from the 60s/70s). I didn’t BR before, so was thinking if I opt for September I could maybe fill some of the time with BRing old PTs. I know that’s not ideal, but it’s what I’ve got. My average PT score from before joining 7Sage is only 4 points from my target score, so it’s not like I’m so far out of range that June is completely unreasonable. I would love to be able to get my applications in ahead of the avalanche that inevitably follows the fall LSAT score release, but not if it means decreasing my odds of reaching my target score. I’m really just kind of thinking out loud here, but it’s become really difficult for me to see all of this with any perspective, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

The proctor was organized and thorough, and communication was good. She made sure everyone heard and understood the rules before carrying on in reading out instructions. The room was relatively easy to find, it was well lit. There were no windows, but that didn't make it feel uninviting or uncomfortable. There were rows of long wooden desks going down the middle of the room seating two or three people each. I didn't notice any left handed accommodation, but there might have been one. There wasn't much need for it on the rows of desks because there was room enough between test takers that one could write the test either from their right or left. There were around 40 students in the room and noise level during the test was perfect, there was no disturbances. Finding the room inside the building was relatively easy, the only downside was finding a place to park. It took half an hour to get through all the pre-test formalities. It was close to me, one of the assistants of the proctors had been really funny and friendly, and facilities were great. I would definitely take the test there again if I had to. I took the test on October 2015.

Proctors: Nervous looking but overall kind and gave warnings. They answered any questions and were reasonable. One dragged his feet while walking, which was highly annoying but fine overall.

Facilities: College University - Bathroom within 2 mins walking distance

What kind of room: large lecture hall with terrible lighting

How many in the room: 50

Desks: 100

Left-handed accommodation: The proctors asked if anyone was left-handed. If so, they accommodated them.

Noise levels: Quiet

Parking: N/A

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 1.5 hours

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments: I was lucky to be seated in a well lit area. I don't think the lighting bothered others, though.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 02 06 16

Hi everyone,

Since many of us are in the process of receiving acceptances or being put on the waitlists of the schools we've applied to, I thought it would be helpful if we had a topic that covered tips and recommendations for law school visits.

Has anyone visited schools yet that would be willing to share their experience?

How would you suggest that I'm applicant dress for the visit?

Are there any particular questions you would suggest that the applicant ask the admissions office?

Did you attend any classes and how was that?

The proctor went a little fast for me. She kind of rushed the paper work in the beginning, and before the start of a section she would start the timer a little too fast for me to be able to let my brain catch up at the end of the section. The facilities were good, the room was relatively well lighted, the clock was within a distance where I could easily discern the time, and the tables which were long wooden ones in rows with 2 to 3 people each were relatively comfortable. There were about 40 people in the room. I did not see any left handed accommodation but of course that was also because they were just desks and you had room enough to lean to the left or right in order to take the test, whichever your comfortable with. Noise level was good and minimal. I got a ride there so I'm not too sure how the parking was like. It didn't take long for us to start the test after completing the initial paperwork. Less than 20 minutes. There was one mishap, which was during my break when one of the test takers in front of me was called outside with his test because he had been in possession with a digital watch which the proctor failed to notice despite the fact that it was on the table. I'm not sure I would want to take the test there again, it was too far and everything felt too rushed. Our group was the first to finish the test and things seemed slightly disorganized. I took the test there in December 2014.

The proctor was really good, spoke slowly, and made sure everyone was ready. She didn't rush the test, but gave us a second before starting the timer again before the start of each new section. From time of arrival to test, it took about half an hour to have everything in working order. Everything was in good order, the the room had good lighting and space. The only problem I had was that the clock was too far away for me to be able to tell the time, which was a bit of a disadvantage for me especially since I didn't have an analog watch. There were around 40 people taking the test in that room, and more desks which were relatively comfortable. There weren't any left handed accommodations, they were standard wooden desks separated from each other. Noise level was perfect, nothing disturbing. The college is really really big so hard to find your way around, especially when I went in September 2014, when there was almost no one to ask for directions. There was plenty of parking space. It was a little far for me to get there from Milton, but if it were close by I could definitely test there again in the same environment.

I got a question regarding my LSAT score improvement potential and would be grateful if you guys could tell me your opinion.

My current score is 150 and I am aiming for 158-160 considering my situation (explained below) do you think, it is a realistic goal which could be achieved by June or September?

- My baseline was 148 (I gave myself one hour per section ((I know it was bad mistake)) but I took other PTs including PT 70 under time using 7sage App two months ago and got a miserable 150 which forced me to withdraw from December LSAT

- I read Power score bibles plus Kplen LSAT Prep book and two months ago I got the Ultimate+ pack (halfway through the syllabus)

- Normally I put in 9-10 hours a day 7 days a week.s

- I am a ELS student and almost always I only finish 3 RC passages, 17-19 LR question and 3 LG games .

- I read very slowly (170 wpm)

- BR scores includes those questions that I could not finish under timed condition.

I have added my 7Sage analytic below, I would be grateful if you could give me any advice.

Proctors: Both were very professional. In my room which held about 30-40 students, there were two proctors.

Facilities: It was held in SU Sullivan Hall, their law school. Very nice and new building. Bathrooms throughout and close to classrooms.

What kind of room: Large classrooms, set up stadium style, with desks quite like tables, rolling chairs.

How many in the room: 30-40 students per classroom

Desks: Large table-like desks. Stadium seating. Seated every other chair, so there was an entire table for one tester, and space to spread out booklets, etc.

Left-handed accommodation: I am not a leftie, but with the seating arrangement, I am sure it would've been no problem.

Noise levels: SCARY SILENT.

Parking: Easy on a Saturday to find paid garage parking.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 1 hour, 15 minutes. 30 minutes to check in, standing in line, 45 waiting in the room to start testing after listening to instructions, had 3 late admitted arrivals.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: Great experience.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/5/15

Proctors: Several available; extremely communicative and helpful. Kept things organized.

Facilities: Clean, quiet and easily accessible.

What kind of room: Classroom.

How many in the room: Approximately 40 to my recollection.

Desks: Long lecture style seating with a seat in between.

Left-handed accommodation: They left a seat in between each person and no one was seated directly adjacent to a wall.

Noise levels: Extremely quiet.

Parking: I was driven to the test but there was plenty of parking.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I got there early, but approximately half hour or so from the actual time they said to be there.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: Great, professional testing center.

Would you take the test here again? Hopefully I never have to take it again (but a good center)!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 6, 2016

Proctors: Several proctors were covering different areas of the room

Facilities: New-ish

What kind of room: classroom

How many in the room: 80

Desks: big enough

Left-handed accommodation: not sure

Noise levels: low

Parking: garage

Time elapsed from arrival to test: an hour

Irregularities or mishaps: no

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec 5, 2015

Proctors: 4-5 women. One was very particular about not having water bottles on the desks for some reason. Don't think anyone got called out for taking too long. They actually seemed helpful when people had questions.

Facilities: 3rd floor of the law school

What kind of room: Med-Lg size lecture hall

How many in the room: ~100

Desks: More like big tables. Plenty of room for any papers. Lots of space between you and the person/people next to you.

Left-handed accommodation: Since they were tables it wasn't really an issue

Noise levels: Fine, didn't have any issues at all.

Parking: Had to pay but it was a couple blocks away and there was plenty of parking.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~2 hours

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: I think this is a great spot to take the test. Of all of the things I was worried about, none happened.

Would you take the test here again? Yes, actually I am in June.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/2015

Hi, I got an okay score in December and applied when it came out in January this year. I then took the February test this year, but my score decreased by a couple of points.

Would those schools that I applied to in January see my February score? All of those schools claim that they won't consider scores from February, but I wondered whether my LSAT scores on file automatically update even after my submission of the application.

Hello 7sages,

At last 5 minutes, I tend to be nervous and thus become quite inefficient at the last five minutes for each section, especially for RC section

For LG, I might solve the 4th game or at least the first questions of the 4th game

For LR, I might finish in time, but no time to check those questions circled; if I can't finish this section, I will choose shorter one (but sometimes it's harder one).

For RC, when there's 5 minutes left, I still have a whole passage, and I become too nervous to read and can't remember anything.it turns out I will miss the whole passage. I used to use last five minutes to check the previous passages and give up the 4th one, but I'd like to finish all four passages, so I can increase my RC score.

I've practiced 10 PTs, I think what I need to do to improve my score is:

1. Stay calm at last 5 minutes (first five minutes are much more productive): I do meditation from time to time, and it does relieve my anxiety overall, but not really work for this situation.

2. Read faster without sacrificing understanding :I finished Cambridge LSAT Difficult passages recently, but still hardly finish reading new passages in 3.5 minutes (or including questions within 8.5 minutes).

3. Make a good guess: I have no idea how to do it; sometimes read too fast and eliminate the correct answer.

Do you have any suggestion for me?

Thanks for all your help!

So I just received my results and ended up with a 163. My gpa is a 3.1 and I've been out of school for about 2 years. Worked for a year right after graduating and then stopped working to study for my LSAT. If I apply now, is there any shot of me getting into Fordham, Brooklyn, Yeshiva, St. Johns or even Iowa (ranked high but lsat and gpa are not as competitive), or should I retake the LSAT again? This was my second time taking the LSAT. the first time i canceled my score cause my nerves on test day interfered with my ability to take the test.

This is no joke.

Tuesday, Mar 1st at 8PM ET: PT 51

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Note:

Proctors: there were 2

Facilities: restrooms

What kind of room: it was a classroom in the medical building.

How many in the room: there were about 30 kids

Desks: there were individual desks

Left-handed accommodation: yes

Noise levels: very quiet

Parking: very limited, get there early

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 20 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments: great test center

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: I took it here on June.

Proctors: Let people choose where they wanted to sit. One ate a sandwich during the test...

Facilities: The university itself is nice and small. The room our test was in however...

What kind of room: A small classroom.

How many in the room: About 30

Desks: SMALL FOLDING DESKS. THE MOST TERRIBLE DESKS IMAGINABLE.

Left-handed accommodation: I didn't pay attention.

Noise levels: Terrible. The window was open and you could hear people laughing/yelling outside. People walked by our classroom talking loudly and the proctors didn't even go out to tell them to be quiet.

Parking: I was dropped off.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 40 minutes. They had everyone line up outside in four rows and then each row walked single-file to a different classroom. It was strange. None of the other locations I tested at did this.

Irregularities or mishaps: ^The walking/lining up thing really threw me off. It was unexpected.

Other comments: Terrible. Avoid this location if you can for the small desks alone, not to mention all the other weird parts about it.

Would you take the test here again? NO

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015