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Hey guys

I am registered for the Feb LSAT, it is taking place on 28th Feb in Asia. I have been studying for the test on and off for the past 6 months while I somehow juggled my seven day workweek of over 80 hours, it wasn't really "preparation". One month ago I took leave from work to study for the LSAT full time, I had completed the curriculum earlier so just went through some lessons again as a refresher. I have taken 6 prep tests (mix of pts in 40s, 50s and one from 70s) and I am averaging at 160 actual and a br score between 170-175(br-ing only the circled ones as recommended on 7sage) . I want to ideally score around 168 plus to have a chance at getting some scholarship at a decent law school and I am willing to put in the work and time, however, I was wondering if I should still take the LSAT to get a feel of it. I know I will not score in my target range if I take the test in Feb. In my limited knowledge most law schools consider only the highest LSAT score and having an experience of taking the test could only benefit. Or should I aim at nailing the June LSAT and take it when I am atleast feeling ready. Right now it is like I know I am not ready but I am registered so may be I should get the experience of writing the real exam but at the same time I am wondering if it will be waste of a take. This community has been super helpful and I will appreciate any thoughts and advice on this.

Before signing up with 7Sage, I took the LSAT twice and fell short. I began studying last July with a lesser study program and I just didn’t effectively prepare myself. While the LR and CR part of my prep wasn’t bad, the Games prep was totally insufficient. Worst of all though, I took a lot of PTs without Blind Reviewing. I wasted those PTs, and I wasted those LSATs. Now, with 7Sage in my corner, I realize just how badly I hurt myself. With only one more shot at it, I feel like there’s a higher threshold of confidence I need to clear before taking it than if it were my first or second attempt. My dilemma is this: I think I’m going to be just shy of 100% confidence for the June LSAT, but I don’t have enough PTs left to hold out for October. I think June is my better prospect. So, to accelerate my schedule to try and hit my 100% confidence level in time for June, I’m considering skipping some of the basic and intermediate LR and RC core curriculum. I really don’t want to, but I’ve spent a lot of time on it already; and even though it wasn’t quite to par with 7Sage, it was decent prep material and I perform well and consistently on those sections. I did the BR on the diagnostic, and I can really tell that that’s where the magic is going to happen for me; so if I’m going to compress my time on anything, I don’t want it to my on my BRs. I’m a little afraid I’ll miss some revolutionary insight that could radically improve my approach, but at this point I think I would benefit more by advancing my schedule so I’ll have more time for PT and BR. What y’all think?

Anyone else experiencing a 504 error? I’ve been locked out for about 30 minutes. Really threw my groove off. Anything I can do to avoid this in the future or was that a 7Sage thing?

Hi! Just wondering if anyone knows where that great list of 19 logical fallacies went? It was really good and comprehensive. Cheers.

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BR GROUP NOTES:

Special Event! Using 7sage's Study Buddy Finder

Thursday, February 25th | 9pm ET

Many of you may be familiar with 7sage's unique Study Buddy Finder tool—but did you know you can use it to find study buddies both in person and virtually? That you can find more advanced users (we call them Sherpas) who can help guide you through the course—or that you can volunteer to be a Sherpa? Or that you can use it to set up special in-person studying opportunities (like taking proctored PT's with a group)? JY and I will be guiding a demonstration and discussion regarding the ways in which you can use this tool and also sharing some ideas about how working with others can really take your LSAT study experience to the next level.

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Thu, Feb 25, 2016 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM CST

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Strategies for 170+ Prep with Allison Gill Sanford

Tuesday, February 23rd | 9pm ET

Allison (173) has prepared an exciting webinar dedicated to strategies for 170+ prep. Even if your goal score falls outside this range, every LSAT taker will benefit from this webinar. Learn what it REALLY takes to get a 99th percentile score from someone who's done it!

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I find myself having a very hard time understanding the causation strategy and i had a few questions about its use. first off, is this strategy for strengthening and weakening questions only or is it useful for other question types throughout the test? I do very well on the strengthening and weakening questions without the causation strategy and i find myself both struggling with the strategy and taking much longer than i would if i didnt use the method. Im basically unsure if i need to use this strategy for these types of questions but i need to know if they are useful in other parts of the test as well Thanks

BR Group!!!! PT 48!

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Anyone else's section performance analytics look like this? Kind of all over the place? I consistently get around my average score, but what I miss in each section kind of feels up for grabs... Every score minus 3 (174, 165, 165) is between 168-170. Guess I need to keep working on individual question types...? It's just that as is, this really doesn't tell me shit other than they are slowly tightening towards the end.

EDIT: Corrected image link.

I'm redoing some questions that I marked when I first went through the ciriculum, and I came across this tricky one. I fully see why answer D is correct, but I can't figure out what makes B incorrect. Doesn't answer B deny an alternate cause?

Link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-20

This is a strengthen question.

G is a protein in the brain. In an experiment, rats that preferred fatty foods over lean foods had a lot more G in the brain than did the rats that preferred lean foods over fatty foods. Therefore, G causes rats to crave fatty foods.

What I am looking for: This is a cookie cutter causal flaw. In my mind, a plausible weakener would be that eating fatty foods might cause an increase in G. We need to deny this.

Answer A: OK, so sometimes the rats choose lean foods. So what? Our facts say that the rats "consistently" choose fatty foods. Is this answer choice just sort of restatement of one of our facts? I think it is.

Answer B: This is hard to eliminate, and I think it's wrong because it just isn't relevant. We don't care about the fat in the brain, but rather, a protein in the brain. Part of me still thinks this denies an alternate cause though: the rats didn't prefer the fatty foods due to a fatty brain.

Answer C: So what? We only care about G in the brain, not the food. For this to work, I think you need to assume that the G in the food then goes up to the brain, but that's a weird assumption.

Answer D: This is perfect since it tells us that the rats that like fatty food had higher amounts of G in their brain before they ate the food. This denies that reverse cause scenario that I anticipated.

Answer E: So what? We don't know anything about the efficiency of metabolizing fat.

Hey gang,

Any 7sagers going to this tomorrow? Here’s the PDF flyer: http://files.ctctcdn.com/92037273401/c984fd3a-a0bd-427e-8f0e-3e52efe1eff2.pdf

I’ll be there at 10am. Let me know if you want to meet up.

Damn, PT52 has some pretty tough LR sections, and even after a retake, I missed many of the same question again (like this one). I don't see how answer A weakens the argument nor how B doesn't.

Link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-52-section-3-question-19

One theory that explains dinosaur extinction is that the dinos OD'd. Angiosperms have psychoactive agents in them. Most plant-eating mammals avoid them since they taste bitter. Mammals also have livers that detoxify the drugs. On the other hand, dinos couldn't taste the bitterness nor detoxify the plant. Lastly, this theory explains why so many dinosaurs were found in weird positions in the fossils.

What I am looking for: Did the dinosaurs actually eat the plants? What if some other theory (like an asteroid) explains the sudden extinction better? Also, we don't even know if the plants were bad for the dinosaurs; we know that angiosperms are bad for some mammals, but what if they were net healthy for dinosaurs? Sure, dinosaurs couldn't detoxify the psychoactive agent (which is bad), but what if the angiosperms provided such large amount of nutrients and other good stuff, that it was worth eating still? Also, we have no evidence that the comparison between the mammals and dinosaurs is even a good comparison; what if the two are so different physiologically any comparison doesn't hold? There is so much wrong with this argument.

Answer A: I just don't see how this weakens the argument. First, it's incredibly weak: we found 1 fossil of a large mammal in a contorted position. But so what? What does this have to do with dinosaurs? Even if you take this to the other extreme: 1 million large mammals were found in contorted positions, you still have the same issue. It doesn't shed any light on what happened to the dinosaurs. Second, the passage never even talks about "large mammals," and the comparison to the mammals in the passage is dubious already, so I don't see how adding this potential third group of mammals to the argument weakens anything.

Answer B: This is what I picked (and I chose this during both my takes of this exam, and kept it both times during BR). Doesn't this point out one of the things I anticipated? If angiosperms provide nutrition, then doesn't this mean they may have actually been GOOD for dinosaurs? In my mind, this not only weakens the argument, but it strongly does so.

Answer C: I think this strengthens the theory. This shows that not only vegetarian dinosaurs ate the angiosperms, but also the meat eating dinosaurs indirectly did as well (which could account for the fact that theory explains the extinction of ALL dinosaurs).

Answer D: OK, but we are talking about angiosperms only. So what if poison ivy doesn't have this stuff in it? This is entirely irrelevant.

Answer E: I think this also strengthens the argument. This shows us that it's possible that animals can actually die from eating angiosperms, so it strengthens the idea that maybe the dinosaurs died from the plant as well. This is a pretty weak strengthener, but it strengthens nonetheless.

Plain and simple, should I write thank you emails upon receiving scholarship offers from schools? Would it be bad form if I did not? Any insight is appreciated.

Anyone ever use this book? Thoughts?

For games do you think supplementing a book with the 7sage course is detrimental or do you think it'll be helpful? I know many here use some books for LR and RC, but haven't seen many use a prep book for games.

Hey everyone,

Want to get some thoughts on how to build up confidence and efficiency during RC. My recent PT scores are trending upwards from the low 160s to the 165/167 range. I think this spike is the result of embracing the skip on LR (the webinars have been enormously helpful). Recently, I've been averaging -2/-0 on LG, -6/-8 LR total but I'm stuck getting around -5/-8 on RC.

The best way I can describe how I feel during RC is anxious. Not sure how many football people are here, but think of it as a quarterback who feels under pressure in the pocket. Basically I try to put in a 3/3.5 minute read to get a good grasp on the passage, I can knock out the easy question fairly quickly, but panic on many of the more difficult ones. I basically read the ACs and have trouble eliminating noncontenders. I start to second guess myself and stumble through the passage, eventually just kind of guessing on an answer because I know that I need to avoid time sinks. I have tried implementing a new notation strategy, but I'm worried that it may cause me to drain more time on irrelevant steps.

June will be my second take. I have limited fresh material left, so should I just focus on drilling hard with old material to establish some better consistency? RC is the only section I feel like this during, so I'm fairly certain I lack confidence with it in particular. Really want that 170 in June, but I know I'll have to improve in RC to get there

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Wednesday,Feb 17th at 8PM ET: PT 47

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I'm not sure why 1) negating morally right to mean morally wrong is incorrect and 2) negating right to mean wrong is incorrect. Please explain!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-2-question-23

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Flaw Intensive (with Sage Jimmy Dahroug)

Friday 2/19 at 6pm ET

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Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official June 2016 LSAT discussion without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

- Team / Leadership Position

- Things made in 1920s

- Recordings / 2 Being Recorded While The Rest Weren't

- Tables at a Fair / Sundial (Table / Vase / Lamp question)

RC:

- High Art / Elite Classes

- CFCs / Ozone

- Legal Matters / Jury Nullification

- Clay / Cuneiform Tablets

LR:

- Brabblers / Birds

- Warm Sea / Jupiter's Moon Europa

- Oxygen Depletion / Levels

- Mayor / Indifference of Voters

- Iron to Prevent Parkinson's

- CEO / Lawyer

- Chocolate Desserts High Calories / Fatty

- World Literature / National Interest

- Hiring Lawyer to Write Will vs. Doing it Yourself

- Sociology / Psychology

- Movie Technology / Recovering Costs

- City of Troy

Experimental Sections:

LG:

- Bicycle Factories / Parts

- Lead Actor Understudy

- Septic Tank

- Fridges

- Oil Art / Gallery

RC:

- Movies made for TVs

- Blues / Musicians (RC)

- Farming Fish / Overfishing

- Computer Simulation in UK Courtroom

- Musical Iconography (?)

- Chem vs. Physics

LR:

- Heme and Non-Heme Food / Nutritional Value

- Hot Cocoa

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

- Coffee & Water in Water Heater

- Large Mall Bookstores / Sell Magazines

- Cereal / Whole Grains

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post June LSAT discussion here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6922/official-june-lsat-discussion-thread

I couldn't find where JY discusses this topic. Is the negation of "few," none and most? For example,

Statement A: Few dogs are evil

Negation of A: No dogs are evil OR Most dogs are evil

Thanks

Hi everyone, I have just received an email from Wake Forest requesting that I complete a video interview. I wonder if anyone else has gone through this experience that could give me a heads up on what to expect? Thanks in advance.

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Personal Statement Bootcamp: Story Strategies with 7sage's David Busis

Thursday 2/18 at 9pm ET

What’s the best way to write a standout statement? Tell a good story. In this webinar, we’ll discuss tactics for choosing a topic, drafting, and revising—all with storytelling in mind.

More specifically, we’ll cover:

About David: David is a graduate of Yale, where he received a prize for excellence in the English major, and the Iowa Writers’ Workshop, where he received a third-year teaching fellowship. His nonfiction has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and The Atlantic online. His fiction has won two national contests, received notable mention in The Best American Short Stories 2014 and been anthologized by Autumn House Press.

David has taught literature at Phillips Academy Andover, fiction at the University of Iowa and creative writing at Southern New Hampshire University. He currently teach creative writing at Southern New Hampshire University, and has designed a course about law school personal statements for 7Sage LSAT.

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