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Last comment saturday, jan 16 2016

Argument Part Questions

For some reason I am having a lot of trouble with these and it is weird because I spent a lot of time on identifying the parts of arguments correctly in the beginning stages of the course and things seemed to be going smoothly up until then.

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I have a brief question regarding the question difficulty label (i.e. the Question Level from 1 -5) on 7sage. How are these determined? Are they relative difficulty compared to all LSAT questions, or relative to questions of the same set?

I searched the discussion archives and couldn't find anything. Some suggested that it's related to how people responded to the question on 7sage. But that doesn't seem to be right, for some questions (e.g. P38, Sect 1, #21, difficulty level 4), most people seemed to have gotten it right (based on the answer choice distribution).

I would love some insights about this. Thanks!

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I'm just curious and trying to gauge how long other people take because sometimes I feel like I'm taking forever. I also clean copy BR

After I take the LSAT, I usually BR the RC and half of a LR Section. This takes about 2-3 hours so my total time for that day plus LSAT is 5-6 hours. At this point, my brain is drained and I don't think I'm doing myself any favors by continuing.

The next day, I BR the other half of the LR and the other LR. This can about 2-3 hours. Then. It takes me about 3-4 hours to throughly review the questions I missed. I type out my reasoning after watching JYs explanation.

Then I review the RC, which takes about an hour to 1.5 hours.

Then I do the games/watch explanations and re-do them. About 2-2.5 hours.

All in all, I usually can't even finish in 2 days. It takes me about 12+ hours to throughly finish. Am I hitting diminishing returns? Thanks.

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I'm trying to apply to law school but I have a major problem. I've worked at an uneventful startup the last two years. It's been my passion but now I don't have anyone to ask for a letter of recommendation. I graduated in 2013 and I don't think that my professors/ mentors will remember me. Also, my resume has major gaps bc I've only been at this "company" and the shitty odd jobs in college. I'm the first person in my family to graduate from college. Any suggestions would be great.

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    Last comment thursday, jan 14 2016

    Multiple LSATs

    I've asked so many people and have always gotten responses that were all over the place about this. Someone please put my heart at rest and tell me whether schools in general have bias towards applicants who have multiple LSAT scores. I understand that fairly consistent improvement is good but if you could get a solid score in 1 or 2 tries, would you be better off than someone who needed 3?

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    Last comment thursday, jan 14 2016

    Addendum or no?

    Before I transferred to my degree granting school, I was cramming in a lot classes in the last semester before I transferred, and I ended up making a pretty dumb mistake. I missed a final, and ended up with a D in a Gen Ed class, and the professor would not let me retake the final. Is this worth an addendum? thanks in advance.

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    I took the Dec LSAT, now studying to retake for Feb.

    To prep for Dec I purchased the premium package and took ~35 PT's with thorough BR (some PT's in the 40's and 50's and all 60-70's), scoring between 164-170.

    I only have 1 fresh PT (PT 76) that is in the 60's and 70's, which I am saving for the week before the test. I have read that it is most important to PT with the more recent tests. Since I began studying for the Feb test, I have retaken about 4 PT's in the late 60's and early 70's and got excellent scores (obviously inflated).. but I am recalling a lot of the questions from taking them previously... so I don't think it is benefiting me as much as it should.

    Should I start taking PT's I haven't done even though they are very early (PT 30 - 40?) Does anyone have specific recommendations for studying for a retake?

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    I got a 153 on my first attempt at the LSAT this December. I feel I can do a lot better than this if I continue to study. The problem is, I didn't register for the February LSAT on time and many schools close deadlines before June. I'm wondering if I should just wait a year after I graduate and work on my internship and studying so I can really dedicate time and get the score I want, or just be happy with my score and apply to schools with that. Any thoughts?

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    Last comment thursday, jan 14 2016

    coffee

    Does anyone know if we're allowed to bring a thermos into the test if it fits into the gallon sized bag? I usually am drinking coffee all day, and am worried about crashing mid test if I don't have any for the break.

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    I have to admit I am pretty frustrated and I thought Id reach out to see if there were any tips you guys had that worked well for being really mechanical in the moment, especially in LR.

    I had to take some time off, and am back at it for my 2nd take in Feb (yes I know I should wait for June, but I still want to go for this cycle). I was a 166 Ave, under performed in Oct as I had to stop studying for a few weeks before and had to take (long story).

    The great thing is now, I can in timed review, score in the high 170s, its like a hybrid BR as its more going back to the question (if I have time left over this is true there as well) and I can get my circled questions right very quickly and usually only miss 1-2 but the last 4 tests I seem to be at -7 my first go through.

    I've been told its a confidence issue, as I talk myself out of correct answers, but I thought I would ask this group on their approach. Perhaps its something no one can answer, but when I seem to get into self doubt I dont process it with a mechanical approach. Anyone else experienced this? How did you get over that hurdle?

    It not a lack of knowledge but as one of the Sages said, knowledge isn't enough. I guess I thought I would ask and maybe someone will share an experience or comment that will help it all "click".

    I know as I do more PTs my timing will get faster leaving me more time to return to questions during the test, but Id rather get it the first go and not risk it.

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    I used the 7sage proctor app (android version) recently to do a PT and it's great!

    I kept thinking "aw, I don't want to be doing this, it's not that important this early in my studying, I'll just abort and make this a casual practice", but the app is unrelenting. The announcer comes on and tells you to turn the page and get going and it motivated me to keep doing just one more section instead of giving up and soon they were all done!

    Of course, I did this after having played around with the settings and voices on the app the previous day. I failed to notice I had set the elapsed time for the section to 28 minutes instead of 35! The app is very sneaky -- when you have it display an image of the analog watch face, the hands on the watch face even move faster so that it looks like you spend 35 minutes! I was relying on that watch face since the watch I ordered for the LSAT hasn't arrived yet. So it wasn't until the break that I noticed I had set the app to 28 minutes!

    No wonder I had so much trouble completing the sections and even had to skip an entire logic game! And just a small brag: found out later that even with limiting myself to 28-minutes for 3 of the sections I still scored a 166 pre-BR. I'm shooting for 170s. LR sections are my forte: my pre-BR score was only -1 on both (including the one done in only 28 min). So my focus will be on LG (fun!) and RC (not so fun).

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    I'm signing up for 7Sage's Law School Prep course now that my LSAT prep days are over. The 7Sage LSAT course was so good and I've enjoyed this online community so much, I feel confident I'll learn a whole lot - and enjoy doing so - on the law school prep course. Anyone thinking of doing likewise? Would be great to go forth with some familiar 7Sagers!!!

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    I'm confused when, where and how the word "not" is used sometimes. For example, in this question answer choice E's conclusion is translated to if a university class is not conducted in a normal classroom, then it will be conducted in a laboratory. /UC ---> L

    I thought "not" is group four and negates the necessary condition? Is it because the if already designates the sufficient condition and therefore the not stays on the sufficient as opposed to moving to the necessary side?

    http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-1-question-21/

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  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Febbers! We’re one month away! Don’t panic! Come to Group BR tonight instead!

    Wednesday, Jan. 12th at 8PM ET: PT70

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    IF YOU DON’T CLICK THIS LINK YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BR GROUP

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments that you’re planning on attending.

    February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hi all, I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts regarding addendums for GPA's that may not necessarily be terrible. Before this last semester I had a 3.93 GPA. Unfortunately this last semester, between taking on an additional course and studying for the LSAT, it dropped to 3.79. I considered my GPA to be a fairly strong point considering I scored a 158 LSAT but now I feel like everything took a hit last semester alongside working full time as a paralegal. I'm wondering if it's worth my time to write an addendum to explain my drop in GPA due to studying for LSAT and work, I feel like since I'm applying part-time, a hectic schedule is what law schools will expect.

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    Greetings, fellow 7Sagers and JY Ping fanboys (or fangirls). I'm hoping to use your collective brilliance to help solve a small dilemma I have regarding how to proceed in my studies. If you were slated to take the June 2016 test date, would you:

    (A) Complete all of the 7Sage coursework and then take ALL of the prep tests (PTs 36-76) before the June test date. The goal here is to get as much practice as possible before the big day in June so that re-testing in Septemberis unnecessary. Let's call this the "eggs all in one basket" strategy.

    (B) Complete all of the 7Sage coursework and then take MOST of the prep tests (PTs 36-65) before the June test. The goal here is to retain the remaining PTs (66-76) for practice, just in case I don't like my June score and want to improve by taking the LSAT again in September. Let's call this the "hedge your bets" strategy.

    (C) Some other wonderful idea I have yet to think of (and of course, feel free to give that strategy the proper moniker of your choosing, as well).

    Thanks in advance for all of your advice!

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    Hey guys,

    I am planning for the June test and just started the Ultimate course. I moved back home to dedicate full time to the LSAT and have almost no obligations for the next 5 months. Back when I studied in late 2015 for October/December, I took an expensive prep course where I crammed in 8-10 hours a day (bad idea) hoping to do well in 2 months. Now that I started 7sage and embraced the method of taking your time, I realize I have too much time!

    Other than following a strict schedule, which gives me about a month of the fundamentals, what else should I utilize? I would love to do problem sets here and there from PT 1-35 but I know the questions are also used by JY in the beginning of the course. Obviously, 36-76 will be for PT and BR only.

    I guess my feeling is that I won't be motivated enough to stick to 2 hours a day when I am used to much more. I already plan on reviewing lessons such as Grammar (concepts never taught in my last prep) but I would prefer to hit about 30-40 hours a week to maximize my potential.

    What do you guys think? Thanks in advance!

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    Anyone feel like some of the correct answers to NA questions on the recent exams aren't really necessary?

    On PT 71,S1, Q22 I see how this would be a sufficient assumption but don't see at all how it's necessary. Performing the negation test wouldn't really destroy the argument since we are only talking about predatory pricing, not ANY pricing practice. And I remember having a similar problem on PT63 Q11 where I thought there's no way the correct answer is necessary.

    On older tests the negation technique proved very effective but I feel like it's actually hindering me on NA questions from the more recent tests. Any advice on how i can adjust? This used to be my favorite question type, now it's not! Want these questions to be automatic.

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    Last comment wednesday, jan 13 2016

    Designating questions for BR

    I did my first PT yesterday (37) under strict time conditions. I had previously done the June 2007 in timed 35 min sections, but had long breaks in between every section. When doing PT37 I found that in the race to finish I often forgot to circle questions if I wasn't sure.

    As I BR and skim the questions I didn't circle, I often remember that I wasn't sure. Should I just consider them a circled question too?

    Has anyone tried just checkmarking the questions they are sure about (100% or 90% or whatever level you're using) and BR-ing the unchecked questions? Feels more satisfying in a way to feel 'yeah, I got this' and check it than to say, 'erm, not sure, guess that's a circle, then'. Also, if there is time to revisit the question before time is up and you go back and get sure, you don't have to erase a circle.

    I usually use a big arrow when I want to revisit a question if time permits, since I wouldn't have time to go to all circled questions and want to prioritize.

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