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So I started August 24th, before that we had an orientation which for us was basically giving us assignments to get done before the first day of class..yes there's homework before you even begin class.

People hear about the socratic method and the case method and they are the predominate method of teaching. I can't say for all schools but from what I've read and what I've experienced, this is true. I'm almost sure you are all better readers than me and thats good because you just read and read some more, then when you're done you read some more.

So what happens, at least for me, is I get assigned cases or a set of pages to read in the casebook. Some are easy, some are ridiculous, a good rule is if its older it'll probably take longer since the language is confusing. If you want to look good in class then you should have a law dictionary (Black's or another) next to you, the law databases that your school gives you (WestLaw or LexisNexis or Bloomberg or whatever) and the most important..Google. If something doesn't make sense, Google the shit out of it. If you want to look really good, then Google about the time period, the judge who was giving the opinion etc.. Of course, looking good in class doesn't really matter if you bomb the exam so I think you should just find a good balance.

I have the attitude where I don't care about looking good in class but I do want to learn so I do some extra research but its for my own benefit.

A lot of people say learn the black letter law. This is true, if you can memorize rules and laws, great but especially when you start, the casebook kinds of builds upon itself. For example you figure out the law that the case is using or just made and then the next case they just totally change it. Law school is basically self taught, class seems like its just to make you cry but really it's helping you to see the bigger picture and see how a case can be applied in tons of ways, it's best to digest and see that instead of seeing your professor trying to make you look stupid.

I think the most important thing I learned so far is that if you want to do good, you have to learn your professors. Thats number one. Talking to students who have had the specific professor is crucial. They know how the professor grades and their style. If you take nothing else from this, take that.

Also, don't be scared, who care's if you look dumb for a bit, everyone does. Last thing, law school won't teach you every law that there is..we have a common law system which just makes everything crazy. Just learn how to be a problem solver, learn how to take a problem and be able to find that answer and by that answer, I mean the answer that you want it to be. No two cases are alike and a lot of cases you can attack it from all sorts of angles to make your argument semi-legit and for civil cases (where the money's at) that's all you need, preponderance..

Anyway, hope this helps someone who crushed the LSAT and is trying to figure out the next step.

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Hi, I have a question regarding law school apps

currently, I'm serving in Korean Air Force for two years

but as I work on the application I wondering whether it would be okay for me to

put Republic of Korea, Air Force on the full time employment section.

I do know they have separate "military" section

but as I'm not enlisted in the US military branch, I certainly cannot state my Korean Air Force on that section.

Thanks in advance!

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About a month ago, a user posted that they had scored in the high 170s on a fresh PT. Their method of studying was to take and retake a group of modern PTs. Does anyone know where I can find this post and/or can you tell me what the benefits of retaking PTs are? I have simply been taking new PTs.

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So I know I'm not quite doing things the 7Sage-approved way: I registered for the October LSAT and started 7Sage late this June because I need to get my score back in time to apply this fall. I've taken the test once before (February this year, to be exact), and I didn't do so hot. I got a 158 on the actual day of, and I had heard of the blind review method beforehand, so I wasn't surprised because my best BR at the time was 161. (This was with three weeks of studying after having been back in the country less than two months after a year-long, overseas assignment. I said I haven't been doing things the 7Sage-approved way, okay? I got it!)

The point it, I've gone through all of the 7Sage lessons (exempting some problem sets because I'm also working full time right now, and there just wasn't enough time for all of them if I was going to get a decent amount of PTs in), and I started taking full, simulated PTs last week. I've done PT41-45 so far, and I'm a bit nervous. At first, I was doing really well. For PT41 my actual/BR was 160/171, PT42 159/171, and PT43 164/172. However, my last two weren't as good: PT44 160/167 and PT45 159/167. It's mainly the drop in the BR scores that's making me really nervous (that and the fact that the best I've done in logic games was a 60% accuracy and today was 46% accuracy). Does that happen? Does score improvement typically look more like a straight incline, or it is common for it to be more like a roller coaster with just a general upward trend? How many PTs do I need to go through before I'll be able to tell the difference?

I should probably add that after I do the blind review, I go back over all the ones I got wrong and try to figure out why the correct answer is right and why the wrong answer is wrong in my own words before I watch J.Y.'s explanations to confirm/correct my reasoning. It takes freaking forever, but I know that's the best way to learn. I'm just nervous that I'm not doing something correctly since even my BR scores have dipped, and I only have a few weeks to figure this out and avoid burnout at the same time. Words of advice/comfort/anything-of-an-anxiety-reducing-nature, someone? Anyone? Please?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-1-question-09/

Hi, while solving MSS questions, I often confront the situation in which whether I should use logical translation or not.

For example, in this question,

as the passage states "technological improvements will enable food production to increase as population increase," I translate it to TI --> FPI.

Then, according to the statement "increases in food production will be negligible unless societies become more centralized..." I translate it into FPI --> SC.

Thus, I got TI --> FPI --> SC.

This is why I chose the answer choice (E) which I thought as TI --> SC.

Perhaps this type of logical translation might not be appropriate for this question, so could you point out what was a problem in my reasoning and further explain when is the time I should use logical translation or not?

Thanks!

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I feeling a bit beat down with prep today, and I wanted to tap into y'all's (I'm in Texas. That is a word.) brains. If you weren't a gluten for self sacrifice and never even heard of the LSAT what would you do? Or better yet, what if you studied so hard for the LSAT that your grey matter ozzed out of your ear holes....then what?

I am thinking synchronized swimming instructor....Or maybe a screenwriter for SyFy.

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Hi All,

With the October test fast approaching, I've been doing the PTs in the late 60s (think 65-69). Before that I had done every test from 35-55. While these later PTs been in my normal range for the most part (low to mid 160s), the past couple have been awful (158/159-awful in the sense that my scores haven't been this low in a long time).

I've noticed that while I'm able to take my time and understand the questions in BR (last BR I got a 171), I feel rushed and find myself stumbling through the test under timed conditions. This hadn't been such a major problem in the past and I'm not sure what I can do to remain accurate while also maintaining a good pace. During the last PT I took, I actually got distracted during the end of the RC section and had to rush through the last passage :(

Do you think this is just that the PTs are harder or that I'm psyching myself out by thinking that this is what the October test will be like? Is it burnout? What can I do to make sure my score doesn't stay at this level?

Thanks for your help!

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Can we please discuss why the answer is C instead of A? :o boggles my mind. I checked out the manhattan prep forum for their explanations but i didn't like them.

From this link :) its the second to last questions. Thnx so much guys.

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/necessary-assumptions-questions-problem-set-8

Also here:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-3-question-09/

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Hello,

I'm currently in the mid 160s with 170+ BRs up to PT 61. I find I am usually -6 to -4 on LR for each section (total -8 to -12 on LR) and -8 to -10 on RC. Most of the time, I am getting 0 on LG. What should I focus more on for a 170+ in Oct? LR or RC? I'm BRing consistently and haven't had much time for anything other than reading articles, PTing, BRing, and evaluation of incorrect answers.

Thanks for the help and good luck to all

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A while back, I posted about how I was severely struggling with logic games. I took about three weeks to do straight logic games every day for hours. All of the logic games I've seen, I can do perfectly now and I can handle every type.

I took a PT today, and I did better than I usually do on logic games. But I noticed some serious issues I had while taking this section. I fumbled a lot. Even knowing that I've seen games like these hundreds of times, I still could not concentrate. If the prompt was to draw 7 slots, I would draw 7 for my master board and then draw 6 each time I had to redraw the game board. I would bunch up all my writing absurdly small in one corner (I never do this during drills). I don't erase any more on my drills, and if I do, I redo the drill until I am no longer erasing. But on actual PTs, I erase and erase and erase because I'm making so many tiny errors.

What can I do? I want to snap out of silly mistakes. Today, I thought I was being extra careful, since I know my weaknesses, but once I drew everything out, I would not notice that I had made a fatal error in diagramming until I discovered an inference through a question.

Even if I read slowly and re-read, my nerves seem to make the words change shape before my eyes... It's like the directions appear so clear and bold and only later do I see that I had fooled myself.

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I am now on timed PT's and still struggling with MBT questions and SA questions. I have only taken 3 PT's so far 19,20, 21. I'm BRing in the 160's w.o BRing RC if I were to be BRing RC, I would be in the 170's. Do you guys have any advice for me regarding MBT and SA? Also, is it worth BR'ing RC? When I do untimed RC passagesI don't really struggle considering I have all the time in the world.

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Just floating this out there with no real question, per say. I'm looking into Sport Law schools, and dabbling into research on Entertainment Law schools (not mutually exclusive). Wondering if anyone else around these parts has the same idea.

Top interests right now include UGeorgia (approx 160 LSAT) and UMiami (little lower than that). Georgetown also, but that will likely be my reach school, and with a late application I'm not getting my heart set on it until I do some PTs.

Anyone else have insights/concerns about Sport & Entertainment Law schools, programs, & apps?

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I have been working through my PTs and am getting ready to ramp up for the October test. After each one I do a thorough Blind Review, score, watch explanations and go over the material for the types of questions I had problems with. While each one of my tests sees my score reach a new high in at least 1 category my overall score is moving up slowly because I will miss question types that I previously hadn't had trouble with. Does anybody have any tips for a good overall review of the material between PTs?

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PT67 BR Tonight at 7pm ET

Join us. Big/awesome group tonight.

This is what I'll be doing until you do.

Note on all groups

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle nikkers625 .
  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Thursday, Sep 3, 2015

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    just out of curiosity... anyone found the live video of JY doing LR? if so, please share the link! I know there's one by Jon...

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    What is international law, really? And what is a JD international law program, considering the typical 'international law' degree is an LLM ?

    What is the business model of an international lawyer? Do they litigate? Meet with international law clients, like big corporations spanning several countries?

    What's the likelihood of an international lawyer practicing law outside of the United States?

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    I'm getting concerned about timing with my apps. I'll likely take the test in Dec and again in Feb.

    I really dont know much about this process, yet. If I take a Feb test, is that too late to get an app together for a few schools in time for the Fall 2016 year start times? Or is that too late, and will instead set me up to apply for 2017 start times?

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    So, my cold diagnostic was 149, a little over a month ago. I finished the curriculum about three days ago and my first PT was a 156. I went -6 on my two argument sections (missing 2 easy questions on both), -9 on games, and -14 of 27 on RC! I think 149-156 is a decent increase and I think I just bombed the reading comp because I usually never score that badly on it. (FML) Anyway, I'm aiming for Decemebr 5th LSAT, I would be happy to score around 167. Should I pick up the Trainer and complete it in 10 days? (About 50-60 pages per day) Or just say fuck it, and straight PT'ing till December. Or, would you guys reccomend I only do CERTAIN parts of the trainer?! Thanks all.

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    So I'm currently going on my fourth month of studying, I have seen improvements in analytical reasoning and reading comp, although these improvements have all been untimed, but I cannot seem to get the hang

    Of logical reasoning, the most

    I've ever gotten correct is 18. I've made flash cards, gone through the techniques used for each question type rigorously. I feel hopeless at this and extremely discouraged. I'm writing in December and I feel like I'll never get the hang of this! Could anyone give advice for how they managed to conquer logical reasoning?!

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