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Hey everybody,

I'm drilling some Cambridge MSS questions and Im having some trouble with the idea of them. I think of them as "Must Be True" questions, even though I know that we are looking for conclusions, but for some reason, JY's videos don't seem to help me, and this particular problem threw me for a loop. Can anybody explain their particular methods for solving these? I've learned a lot from people telling me their methods, and in particular, can anybody explain this problems? The explanations I've read on Manhattan's LR forums and Kaplan's explanation aren't helping... (To give further context, out of ten of these questions, I'll probably get 8 right, and 6 of those right ones will be due to POE since for some reason, my prephases dont come out right...)

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-08/

I picked D, which is wrong, and I kind of knew it would. I could not pick C because the it did not translate to what I needed.

Incompetent----> Does not complete

CP Completes ------> Not incompetent.

But the problem for me here was that not incompetent does not( according to our negation lessons) equal competent right?

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Hi, I know this topic has been covered in the forum already but I thought I'd ask again for more input.

I'm currently debating whether to continue and upgrade 7Sage course or travel abroad to take the in-class Testmasters. I'm scoring in the 150s and I feel as though the class structure + homework would help me pull up my score a bit from there which I can pull up further with 7Sage on my own.

Any thoughts?

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I'm having what I think is a weird issue. I'm not doing well with the MP/MC questions but I seem to be doing ok with the other questions. Doesn't that seem odd? If I'm having trouble with the MP/MC questions how am I able to do the other question types? Isn't this question type the most important as far as LR questions? If you can't identify the argument how can you be successful with the other question types? I think my problem is that I can determine the main conclusion if the indicator words are there but not so much if they're not. So, I'm not getting many of the harder questions correct. I'm not doing so well with determining the premises, sub-conclusions, etc. I'm using Manhattan along with 7 Sage. Obviously I have more reviewing and studying to do, but what am I missing? I'm just not getting this question type. I'm taking September test so I still have time. It's just kind of frustrating. I've been studying off and on for the past year due to some major health issues. I'm just now getting back into really studying so I know I may just be rusty but I wasn't getting these questions right when I was studying hardcore. Any questions or thoughts?

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Hey 7sage admins,

You should create a Reading Comp Bundle (conclusion). If you create a Reading Comp Bundle, I would buy it. I also think many others would be interested in buying a Reading Comp Bundle as well. Furthermore, the creation of one (referential phrasing to the Reading Comp Bundle) has the potential to generate more revenue for your site. Again, please create a Reading Comp Bundle.

Your most loyal 7sager,

Bret

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Wanted to share a bit of inspiration with everybody, and thank the guys at 7sage.

3 months ago I started studying for the LSAT with no idea what I was getting into. Logic Bibles were, frankly, not that helpful, and googling around for tutors just revealed absolutely shocking prices. By chance found a 7sage youtube video explaining LGs, which was my first encounter with an actually useful explanation. Hesitated for a moment over the 200 bucks or whatever it was for the online program but it's been the best investment probably of my life.

Here's my graph of improvement since my first timed PT:

http://imgur.com/a/HYnak

That's 100% down to the 7sage curriculum: My LG bible is getting dusty on a shelf. I really think that the improvement I've seen is not just possible for everybody, but on the low end - those final few points are tough to squeeze out. Everybody taking it in a week - good luck! And to those down for September, you can achieve so much in that time, it'll blow your mind.

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So,

"H will go before J if and only if it is after M." is a biconditional statement...

and is broken down into two different conditions, right --

M- H - J

or

J- H - M

If I wrote just " H will go before J if it is after M"

I would have " M - H - J " with H being before J because it is after M

But if I wrote

"H will go before J only if it is after M"

How does that give me J - H - M?

I'm somehow drawing a complete zero and a blank!

What am I thinking wrong?

I just feel like H is not before J in that translation at all...I'm lost and I don't know how or where to get out.

Thank you

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Hey guys, what's everyone planning re: their prep for the final week? I'm going to continue on business as usual, writing PT 70 tomorrow, PT 71 Thursday, and PT65 on Saturday, with review days in between. I find that if I take a full day off prior to writing a test I don't do as well, so I'm going to review as I normally would this Sunday.

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Hey everyone! I guess we're all kinda freaking out about the june thing. Here's a good, solid, full-proof conclusion that I've come up with after taking several prep tests in the last couple of weeks.

Now, I think my abilities range from somewhere in the 160s to 174/5, but this tip might apply to others as well. I had prepared extensively through the winter getting consistent scores 170+ (three consecutive 170, 171, 172). After continuing with a softer preparation through april/may, and then restarting full-on a couple of weeks ago I noticed that my logical reasoning score had gone way down. I was freaking out, missing 3-5 questions per section, without confidence/certainty. I decided to buy a book of advanced lsat that collects a lot of harder questions from earlier tests so I could improve my accuracy. But although it worked to get some concepts straight, it was a psychological killer. I was really second-guessing myself all the time because I would often think the questions were way harder than they really were or I was trying to come up with an absolute reason of why I was getting some questions wrong, started taking a reductionist formal approach to the questions.

So then I decided to tackle LR the way I had in the past (individual sections) in a relaxed (but accurately timed) manner, blind method and then checking the answers shortly afterwards. I started improving a lot (down to -2,-3 and then -1, -2) and I had a sort of epiphany.

Although many of you already know that formal logic is not that important for this section some of you might use it to gain more certainty and avoid some mistakes. That's the most dangerous thing you could do. Basically, avoiding over-abstraction and focusing on the reading comprehension skill of LR is KEY. I mean, yes, you could avoid some mistakes by getting to the core with abstract thinking but the questions that really call for that kind of thinking appear usually once or twice in a section, no more. There are many more mistakes that you can avoid by reading closely and scrutinizing the terms of the premises and conclusions, which is way easier and less time consuming.

I hope this is useful, it has definitely worked back for me as I'm back in the 170s train and hope to stay there all the way to the real thing.

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Hi, I'm currently in the process of solidifying different categories of logic games problems i.e. basic linear, advanced linear, etc. and I'm doing problems culled from the Appendix of the Powerscore. However, I realized 7Sage also has logic games sorted from PT 35-50 https://uploads.7sage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/logic-games-sorted-by-type.pdf and the terms used for categories differ from those of Powerscore. For example, Powerscore distinguishes games by calling them basic linear, advanced linear, grouping, combination, etc. whereas 7Sage has In/Out, Sequencing with Twist, etc.

In this case did you guys go through all the different categories in both Powerscore and 7Sage?

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Another psychological tip for this section:

Unlike the rest of the LSAT, each question in this section is completely independent from the other. Therefore, it could be a little bit daunting to realize that all of your hard work doesn't "pay-off" for more than one single question. Moreover, the fact that you have to "start-again" 25 times and be accurate for all of these during 35 crappy minutes is a quite stressful thing. All of this invariably leads to one thing: over-anxious reading of the stimulus (since you don't care that much about the reading and the text seems to be on your way) and, on the other hand, over-relaxed/careless reading of the questions (since it feels like you're finally seeing the light and about to move on).

So here's a bit of a buddhist/dalai lama relaxing tip that some of you could use. Whenever you approach LR questions (specially those with long stimulus), try to tell yourself the story behind it. Actually USE body language to accompany each bloody sentence. So if the stimulus goes "Dogs tend to poo more in parks than in sideways" actually RELEASE the poop as you are reading it. And do not try to come up with a conclusion or a possible answer before reading the choices (except for the predictable questions that you should easily recognize if you're about to take the june thing) or at least don't over-emphasize that part. Read attentively and go through the answer options and READ THE OPTIONS with care, NOT with relief. This will help you avoid a lot of mistakes related to traps in the answer choices, and shell game traps where LSAT plants an idea in your head that throws you completely the other way.

Basically, strap your balls on while you're reading the text in the stimulus and don't release them while reading the answers (not just yet anyway).

Peace and good luck everyone!

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I have been studying by myself and my LSAT goal was a low 160s. I scored a 156 then 155 then another 155 and sense then my scores haven't been higher than 152... I know I can't get a refund and my game plan is to sign up here at 7sage to prepare for the next LSAT. Anyways this leads to the question is it better to not take the June test at all? Or should I give it a shot to get a feel for the test? Maybe if I feel confident and think I scored in the mid 150s I don't cancel my test score and I have that score in my pocket. You guys and girls here seem to know this test better than any other place on the internet. What do you think?

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Hi guys, so I'm sure all of us writing June 9th are starting to get less and less sleep imagining the day we sit down to write this thing. For me this will be my very first (and hopefully only) LSAT, my question is how do I handle these last important days? I started prepping after my finals April 25, so I've had about 6 weeks of hard studying. I've progressed well in the limited time, starting diagnostic at 158, sat around the low 160s for the middle 3 weeks and then the last 2 weeks my PT have been 164, 166, 161, 168, 172 and 171, in that order. This is exactly where I need to score, hopefully avoiding the 161. I've saved prep test 68-71 to do over the next 8 days. How can I make sure I keep rolling, I feel like I'm starting to "peak", the LR answers are jumping out at me as correct and I have scored perfect on my last 4 LG sections (RC is the reason I don't score higher about -8 every time). I need this to last until the 9th, I cant afford to burnout but I also cant slowdown. Any suggestions for how to handle these final days?

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Hey Everyone,

I just graduated from University (April 2014) and am planning to write the LSAT September 2014. However, I will not be entering law school until September 2015 (assuming I get accepted). So my question is, I would like to maximize my experience throughout my year off, and would like to hear some suggestions of viable experience options. I will certainly be looking for a full-time/part-time job in order to make some money before entering school for another 3 years, but is there a particular type of job I should look for that would aid me in not only getting accepted to law school, but also potentially aiding my career down the line. Also, is there any places I could volunteer to get some extra experience? I understand it is hard to get experience without having a law degree and what not, but I am looking for some minor things I could do, to give me that extra boost.

Thanks in advance.

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So I am having trouble finishing all the questions in time. I am trying to figure the best way to improve. As of now I am thinking of taking one logic game section per day un-timed but doing it as fast as I can. Then printing ten fresh copies and doing them under timed condition. Any suggestion would be welcome. Thanks

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Hi guys,

Do you have any idea how the sections affect the overall score? I just took a PT and got a 160, while completely bombing the Logic Games (like I only got 6 correct in the entire section -__-). I'm obviously drilling them and I normally don't do that badly, but I was just wondering what score you think I might expect if I were to do better in that section.

Thanks!!

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