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Hi Everyone:

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to spend the next month studying for the Feb LSAT. I work full time and want to make sure that I am using the time I have wisely. And any suggestions on how to improve my test score?

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Quite embarassed to post this but I do need some third party unbiased opinion/view. and I am quite desparate..... so here it goes. I took the Dec. LSAT my 3rd time taking this test. First was in 2011(took classes at PowerScore) - Cancelled, 2nd was 6/2012 - 150 (Iself studied) , this time around I used the paid 7sage course. - 149! I took baout 20- PT, averaging 158... the last 2 weeks I had score ranges between 158-161. [Been working full time 50hrs/week the entire time/I do not suffer from test anxiety

Though this is more than 10 years ago, I scored 1270 on my SAT, took several AP Classes in high school (History, Calculus I, English) and did mediocre (3.6) at a state school (my major was easy - Business Administration and Finance). - so I dont think I am retarded... but my LSAT scores obviously scream so.

Is the LSAT really an aptitude test?

Anyone taken the LSAT multiple times with little or no improvement?

Does LSAT REALLY measure your success in lawschool?

Any thoughts opinion/though welcome.

Thanking you in advance - desoarate old dog.

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Hello, I recently completed an undergraduate degree in mathematics (At McMaster University in Canada) and finished with a GPA of around 1.9. There are various reasons why I under-performed. Some are legitimate medical reasons, but it is mostly my fault for being lazy and unmotivated. I have recently gotten really motivated by the LSAT and feel that I can score 175+ (I scored 167 on my diagnostic). Can I get in to a law school? Can I get in to a GOOD law school? What can I do to make my application look better than it currently does?

Thank you!

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Hey guys,

I took the LSAT in December, but was not happy with my score. I've done much better on previous PTs.

I was wondering if anyone out there was or is in a similar situation. How should I approach this next month? Should I revisit some of the main concepts and then redo some of the PTs?

Thanks in advance everyone.

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I am awesome at this portion of the test and usually score really well, but for some reason cannot understand why the correct answer choice on this question is what it is.

The argument is #6 of Section 2 of Prep Test 23. They discuss prehistoric chimpanzee species, tool use and humans. I won't type the argument out unless y'all need me to, but was wondering if anyone could help explain why the correct answer is C over D.

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I wanted to thank the entire staff of 7sage for your excellent program. My first diagnostic test was in the 130's. I almost thought of giving up on the idea of going to LS. I am a 41 AAM and grasping some of the concepts in LG and LR under timed conditions gave me fits. I got your program and studied for a few weeks for several hours per day. This may not seem significantly high but my score I received today was a 155. I was 5 points off from my goal. I it felt great to know I can get untangle the circle talk and head games. Again thanks to you all!

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JY,

Happy New Year!! Hope the Holidays went well. The 7sage learning experience has been excellent. I was wondering if you were developing a flash card feature to help review and reinforce some concepts on the 7 sage phone app. I think it would be very helpful when commuting on a train or when you have some downtime to quickly review information. Just wanted to see if anything like this was in the works.

Sincerely,

Logoskronos

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In addition to the horrible weather in the Northeast, I received a horrible score last night. The last two weeks before the test, I was scoring 159-161. But on the real test I got a 151. I need to analyze what really went wrong, but I missed about 15 questions on the RC ( I had 2 and the Section 5 was the one that was counted). Should I take the Feb. LSAT so I can apply for this cycle? Did anyone else score significantly lower on the real thing than what they were scoring in weeks prior to the test?

Any advice/comments would help. Thank you.

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It seems to be a trend to unsubscribe from this sub after getting your score. I'm going to be staying here to help people out and answer questions regarding the LSAT.

A little about my journey. I had originally planned for the June 2013 LSAT but changed it to October after PT'ing a 148 2 weeks prior. After reading every Powerscore book, I was able to bump up to a 153-4 but that wasn't what I was aiming for. I was aiming for something in the 160's. I thought I had plateaued because every score from PT 30-45 was in that range. It was frustrating.

I then decided to reschedule once more to December. It was do or die for me. I was recommended 7Sage, and will recommend it to anyone, especially if you're doing Powerscore as well. I was able to score in the 160's 3 weeks before the December 7th for the first time. To make sure it wasn't a "kag" I kept taking PT's. Ended up staying in the low 160's for all of them. I was satisfied and confident as I walked into test day.

Just got my score a few hours ago, and am extremely proud to say that I scored in the 160's, which is what I was aiming for. I ended up getting -0 on the LG section, my first section of the exam.

Wanted to give a huge thanks to 7Sage & the community. You guys answered a bunch of things I was curious about considering the test. Sure I didn't get in the 170's, but I did improve drastically from my PT in before the June exam. (Even more from my diagnostic which was a 139)

TL;DR Don't lose hope if you're a future test taker. Improvement is possible with dedication and hard work. Don't listen to anyone that says a 20 point improvement from your diagnostic is impossible because that's BS.

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Ex-Blueprint Prep student here. I received my test this morning. I did a lot worse than I was planning on a logical reasoning section and about my usual on the others. I'll admit that there were some weekends when I should have been studying but I was out partying instead, but overall I felt like I was ready to get around a 162 on the test. My practice tests reflected this. I don't know if it was the stress of actual test day, that my timer was a minute or two off, or whatever, but I feel awful about my score because I feel like I failed myself. I plan on taking it again in June and am willing to take the test even more seriously this time. I know, I know. I shouldn't be naive, but I'm totally psyched about killing the test come June. Can 7sage help with this or should I look elsewhere for the next six months? Thanks and sorry for the novel of a post.

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Hello,

I have bachelor's degree in science that when it comes down to reading paragraphs about political science or social science, I tend to have difficulty drilling down the core of what the paragraphs mean. Now that I have decided to take the time to prepare for LSAT properly (I'm aiming to take LSAT in December 2014), I was hoping I can improve my reading and writing for the meantime.

Can someone recommend me some list of books that will help me be familiar with pol sci/ social sci subjects?

Many thanks and wish you best of the season!

HJ Park

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hi there,

i have a question on diagramming multiple conditionals: e.g., Q#15, section 1 of PT #63 (june 2011), choice B states, "if someone tells the same lie to two different people, then neither of those lied to is owed an apology unless both are." i know this is not the correct answer choice but i had a question as to how we'd diagram a multi-part conditional statement like this. would the correct way be:

someone tells the same lie to two different people --> (at least one owed apology --> both owed apology)? if so, what would be the contrapositive of the entire sentence? i never dealt with a conditional within a conditional so any advice you have would be greatly appreciated!

thanks in advance!

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I stumbled upon a role played question and came up with an unanswered question. Here it is:

Assumptions are always known as "implicitly" implied. So does this mean that whenever an actual claim's role within the argument is being asked about, then the answer to the question can never say something a long the lines of "it is an assumption on which the argument depends"?

I figured that if some claim is an assumption, then it would not have explicitly been said to start with?

Please help!

thanks

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Dear 7sagers,

Okay... so, I have been studying the LSAT for exactly one year and one week! Anyway, I have done much study. I have a 10 pound binder with notes of every single 7sage LSAT lesson. I also have a stack of note cards to quiz me on every aspect of conditional logic and argument flaws. I have also bought books on conditional logic and have studied them on the side. After a year of study, I have improved my baseline timed score from a 148 to a 162 and a baseline BR score from a 168 to a 175.

Originally, when I took the PrepTests, I would take an LSAT timed, and then retake the entire LSAT as BR. Then, I would review my answers. However, I noticed by the time I checked my answers, I no longer remembered the train of thought that I had for each question. So, if I got one wrong, I didn't really remember the faulty train of logic that led to my wrong conclusion.

To counteract this, I have started taking LSATs one question at a time! I first do the question timed (I find out how much time per section I have for each question... usually on Logical Reasoning sections, I have about 1:20 to finish each question). Then, right after I take the question timed, I do a blind review if I feel like I need to. Then, I check the answer. This way, I know exactly what I was thinking if I got the question right/wrong and how to improve upon it.

Don't get me wrong, I still take full-length timed LSATs. But, I have been using this method to change things up, and to supplement JY's method. Let me know if this makes sense to you! If it does, I recommend trying it!

*I also recommend taking a full-timed LSAT then checking the answer to each question after you BR them individually. This way, your BR train of thought is still in your head when you see the answer.

I wish you luck!

Happy Holidays!,

Bret

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I have been using the program for the last couple of months and have been seeing results. Though I am not in my target range yet, I am getting close to my range during blind review. Sometimes I notice things with time that I didn't notice the first time around and other times I just get to answer questions that I didn't have time to get to during the timed exam. My question is...what does getting a question right in BR really mean? Does it mean you are capable of getting this type of question right the next go around or does it mean that your real struggle is with timing? I'd love to hear the insights of people who have been going at this for longer than I have :).

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