Hey J.Y.

Is there any prep information regarding the essay portion of the exam?

If you're feeling nervous or stressed (or both) before the exam this Saturday, just sit back and listen to Beethoven's Fur Elise. It does wonders.

hello,guys! how many times have you practised before the test?

I'm in my target score range, but I don't want to overdo it....

Are two PTs too much? One on Monday and one on Wednesday?

Or should I just do one and spend the rest of the time focusing on weakness areas so I don't overdo it?

Thoughts?

Hey guys... here is an alternative source of LR explanations for free courtesy Manhattan http://www.manhattanlsat.com/forums/logical-reasoning-f4.html

After doing the Stained Glass game (PT 62, Game 2), then watching JY's explanation, I realized I made a major time-waste error when I split the game based on where I placed R....

It seemed like a good idea at the time... but I realize now that it would create 6 different boards...

Anyone have general guidelines on when to split and when not to split?

Is it worth doing simple stats to realize there would be 3x2=6 different gameboards and not worth it?

Are there other rules/guidelines anyone suggests?

Quick question. I've only taken the initial pretest. I've been through the syllabus once but that was some time ago due to various reasons. I plan on signing up for December. Should I go ahead and begin on PT? At this point they won't be timed but I think I need to start figuring out my weaknesses. I was thinking about taking the PT and referring to the lessons when necessary. Does that make much sense, or should I continue to make my way through the entire syllabus again before taking PT?

Hey there,

Is it possible to view the videos offline? Watching the videos on the subway would be a great use of my travel time.

Thanks!

Hey everyone, hope you are all hanging in there as we approach Saturday. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions/advice about the kind of prep work to do in the last week? I know the idea is to hone in on weaknesses and review the concepts surrounding them. I was wondering if there was anything else to add to that list?

Thanks for any advice/ suggestion you can offer and I wish you all the best of luck!

Immanuel

Hey guys,

I saw a recommendation in one of threads to study up on the weirdest logic games in prep for the test on Saturday given the recent tendency to have one really weird game. Seems like a good idea to me. I have been playing "the ten hardest logic games" according to Power Score (link: http://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lg_10-hardest-logic-games.cfm) but thought this group might have additional suggestions on the toughest/weirdest games. Any ideas?

when I print out PTs from 7sage, my logic games are always a page, front and back, and it get's annoying to have to flip around to look at my master board and so forth... so sometimes i just practice on another piece of paper and use the PT to fill out my answer. I was wondering if the official LSATs logic games have a format of either a whole spread of 2 pages or just one page?

So with only a week left, I'm seriously beginning to contemplate deferring Saturday's exam to December as I'm still having issues with getting timing down. I was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on any possible disadvantages of waiting until then. I'm planning on applying to primarily Canadian schools.

I think that my situation here is atypical. I think I studied all wrong, and I am unsure if I am screwed because of it.

I am blessed in that from the beginning I never missed more than 4 questions on reading comprehension.

I then wasted a month of prep learning all sorts of shit pertaining to logical reasoning (using the LRB). Then, one day, I took a PT and didn't diagram anything or use any of the methods the LRB instructed me on. I received a -3 on LR total (significantly better than what I was testing before). Now I regularly test -5 to a -9 on LR total for both sections--without any sort of markings, diagrams, conditional logic, etc. I just use intuition and it serves me better.

This, unfortunately, is not the case with logic games.

The first several sections I did I went -15+. I buckled down, and in the last week I've managed to improve that to about a -7. I am hoping that in the next week I can improve that to a -4 (which is hopefully possible).

I have two concerns that I am hoping for some input on:

1: The effect of the 'oddball' game that has made an appearance on the last couple LSATs and will inevitably appear on the September test. Is there any speculation on what this game may be?

2.) I have 6 days of prep left to turn a -7 on logic games into a -4...what, in your opinion, is the best way to do this? Obviously drill-baby-drill is applicable here--and trust me I am drilling hard--but is there any specific aspect to games that I should focus on which would yield the greatest marginal benefit?

Appreciate any and all feedback.

ps

To the proprietors of this site: You're fucking heroes; I am so happy that you are doing this and not running M&A deals for Cravath in NYC instead (you'll probably end up making more money, anyways).

Hey everyone, I keep getting around a 155 (highest 157) LSAT score on practice tests. I am very nervous about writing the actually LSAT test next Saturday because I have not yet reached my goal of 160-162. Should I still write the test?

Of course you are. You're about to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one you will be taking in December.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your last three recent properly administered LSAT PrepTests (e.g., 70, 71, 72) and average your score. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

There is nothing separating you from that score except the mere passing of a few day's time.

You are as prepared as you can be. You have already seen everything those crafty LSAT writers will throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond with craftiness of your own.

Saturday will not be a new day and the September 2014 LSAT will not be a new LSAT. It will only be "LSAT PrepTest 73" which will be just like PT 72 and PT 71 and PT 70 and so on.

For Saturday, remember only this: keep moving.

You will encounter a few insanely difficult curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You will encounter them (again) on Saturday. I am telling you this now, so you will be prepared. Skip those difficult questions. Maintain your rhythm.

Keep moving.

You got this.

I've been consistently within the 167-170 range since June. I can't imagine that I've lost any knowledge or skill in the past week, but my scores have dropped. I scored a 164 on PT 70, and a 166 on PT 72. Logically, I think it's the pressure of the impending administration getting to me, but I can't help but think that somehow the other tests were a fluke, or that the PT's in the 70's are harder than those in the late 60's. I know these recent scores are still "good," but I also know they are not my best. My confidence has definitely taken a blow, and I'm not sure what I can do to regain it in the next week. I had PT 71 scheduled for Monday, should I risk taking it and scoring poorly right before the test? Or should I just work on my confidence? I've put more into this test than I thought I ever could, and I'm utterly disappointed that this is happening with 7 days left. If anyone has experienced something similar to this, I would tremendously appreciate your advice. Thanks in advance!

After a ton of hard work, I'm breaking 170 and want to ensure 170 on test day or do better. I have only 1 new PT left which I'll take before the LSAT next week....

But for the rest of my time I'm debating whether to redo some old PTS (there were some recent ones I did before deciding not to take the December LSAT last year) or just watching videos from 7Sage that I haven't done yet.

I've taken other courses before so I only used about 1/4 of the 7sage course videos to help in Key Areas. But I do like the 7Sage method overall and I wonder if it's better to use the rest of the course material (and practice) to really refine my approach.

So redo a couple old recent PTs or more 7Sage videos and practice? Thoughts?

Hello J.Y. and 7Sagers!

I love 7Sage and would like to suggest some improvements to the site.

1. Include an Up&Down voting mechanism for lesson comments a la Reddit

2. Include a delete function for lesson comments (if it is there, I cannot find it)

3. Create an additional sub-forum under "For 7Sagers only" to house meta-discussion such as suggestions

4. Create a lesson or permanent forum post that contains all of the skills, knowledge, and other attributes common among high-scoring students. I know there are several of these hidden throughout the curriculum but I don't think they exist in aggregate.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-3-question-11/

Hi folks, I can't for the life of me figure out why the correct answer for question 11 in sec. 3 of the June 2014 test is choice A. (This is the question regarding citizen opposition to a new hiking trail on the grounds that users will litter.) Aren't both C and D better choices?

My thanks to anyone who has any idea!

Hello! I signed up for the maximum content course and I'm wondering how I can gain access to the explanations for all logical reasoning questions... if that exists. I can only find explanations for logic games at this time. Can anyone help navigate the site to locate this information? Thank you!!

Have you guys heard the Planet Money podcast about hunting for the hundred dollar bills? Apparently, 80% of cash is in the form of $100 dollar bills but when's the last time you saw a Benjamin Franklin? The fact is we don't know where most of the $100s are.

Why is that? And just how many $100s are floating around out in the world? Well, that's exactly what the Federal Reserve wanted to know. They begin with a hypothesis that the $100s are "hiding". They guessed that the $100s are used as long term stores of sketchy wealth, stored in vaults and in between pages of books, by international drug dealers and their ilk.

Working off that hypothesis, they concocted a way to "count" how many $100s are out in the world.

They borrowed a clever technique from fish biologists that wanted to count fish in a lake. Like $100s, fish hide too. What you do is you catch say 100 fish, you tag them and you set them back into the lake. Later, you pull up another 100 fish, randomly. You check to see how many of the fish are tagged. If all 100 are tagged, then there's probably only 100 fish in the lake. But, if only 50 are tagged, then there's probably 200 fish in the lake.

The Federal Reserve used the same trick. They tagged $100s and tossed them into the world's lake of $100s. They waited, they resampled, and they got their "answer".

Regardless of the results, my question concerns their technique. What you do think about their technique? Would it yield accurate results? Would it over or under count?

Source:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2014/08/13/339827662/episode-560-hunting-for-the-hundreds

5:48 is where they talk about the fish biologists sampling technique

I took the LSAT in June, and got a 166, which was at the lower end of my average and (I think) worse than I was capable of because I got thrown off (I had to pee like a racehorse through the first part of the test before the break). I'm taking it again Saturday, but my biggest issue is, because I took most of the most recent practice tests in June, the only recent practice test I have that I haven't done is PT 71. So lately I've been working on some older ones, which I know are easier (as evidenced by my score going way up),and I still have practice tests 54-61, and practice test 71 (which I'm saving for the last one I do before the real thing.) I know I can just go over the newer ones I've already done, or even erase all my pencil marks thoroughly and retake them, but I was really hoping to take some live, timed PTs for the first time that resemble what I likely face Saturday. Does anybody know if any of PTs 54-61 are especially worth trying, in terms of how they resemble recent trends?

I went through 4-9 Forms today and I feel overwhelmed.

How did you guys remember all these? Do I just need to watch the Invalid Argument Forms videos to understand? Mind blown.

I joined 7Sage 10 days ago and am planning on taking the LSAT in Dec. Beginning to feel overwhelmed with the schedule. I am aiming to take ~29 PT before that. Is my goal too ambitious? I am not working and am studying full time. I feel like I'm getting bogged down trying to complete all the relevant problems. Maybe it will be best to push test back to February, in order to build a solid foundation...Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated!

Hi Everyone,

I just came across a free online MOOC from Stanford University called LPL language, Proof and Logic. I think I may be helpful to everyone and didn't want to keep it to myself! There is still time to join - but there is low stress with MOOCs, since you don't have to take it for a grade, etc....

Try to locate it at www.edx.org. You'll be directed to the Stanford MOOC site.

Best of Luck everyone!