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How many preptests should we be taking a month before our lsat?

Correct me if I am wrong in my explanation. I am not sure about my explanations for "B" and "D"

*The kind of question this is:* Weaken

*CTX:* Post office must be replaced with a larger one.

*Premise(s):*

• The present one cannot be replaced.

• Land near the present (center of town) location is more expensive.

• Cost of acquiring a site is a significant part of the total construction cost.

*Conclusion:* Post office can be built more cheaply on the outskirts of town.

*What I am looking for:* A reason, that outweighs the burden of cost, in favour of the office to being built near the present (center of town) location, rather than on the outskirts.

*Answer A:* No. That is just information. Irrelevant. The building code is not a stated obstacle.

*Answer B:* Yes. The office on the outskirts will need a parking lot that is more expensive than not having one.

*Answer C:* No. That’s an issue that the new post office would not need to worry about. It is not mentioned how this would be a problem.

*Answer D:* No. So what if they have to deliver mail to home. The mail will still arrive to the costumers. The post office on the outskirts will still be in business.

*Answer E:* No. That’s not a problem. That’s just the process that will be taken to build the office in the center of town.

I'm really confused between A and D too and can't still understand why A is wrong.

I chose A. The reason why I thought D was wrong is "widely accepted theory" part. The author said it has "gradually" won accepted (Line 20) rather than widely accepted. I think gradually accepted and widely accepted are totally different.

So how is it possible D is the right answer?

And why is A wrong?

Please someone enlighten me.

Thanks!

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Hello,

My name is Ken Kim. We are a group of Koreans and Korean-Americans planning to take the LSAT either this October or in a couple of years. We have members scoring from 160-175 either on the official test or practice tests. Some of us are committed full-time to the test while some of us are working at a company, law firm, etc. We meet on the following dates at the Gangnam station Exit 9 Wing Study Cafe.

8:00 pm-11:00 pm, Wednesday

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We usually meet and do questions from LR and RC. We match our answers and discuss why each one of us have chosen an answer we chose. The fee for joining the study is free other than paying for the studying cafe fee which is 1,900 KRW per person for each hour (5,700 KRW total).

If you are interested, please send me a message to my inbox. I will direct you further. Thanks!

Hey all!

I am pretty sure I understand what JY means but I have never encountered a question where it is okay to independently strengthen a hypothesis without strengthening the support between premises and conclusion.

In JY's explanation for PT 89.S2.Q3 he talks about the question stem and mentions how some (rare) strengthening Q's will say "what most strengthens the hypothesis" (as oppose to "what most strengthens the support between for the hypothesis",) in which case, he says it is okay to pick an answer that doesn't necessarily make the premises more relevant but could be something random that just makes the hypothesis more likely to be true.

I was wondering if anyone knows of any examples of a question like this from a PT? I would like to see it just to ensure my understanding is clear.

Thanks so much and good luck to everyone taking the Jan-Flex!

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I was wondering if anyone knew how long it took for the LSAC to release past LSAT tests for practice? For example, I took the LSAT in November 2022 and want to look over that test but when would it be available on Law Hub/to everyone?

Hello, could anyone provide an explanation for general theory? I have seen it pop up several times in MoR question and in other questions as well. I know its a principle that is know in the world like "everyone should eat healthy" but cannot come up with one that does not include should. Anyone have a better understanding of it?

Looking to start or join a study group with regular weekly drill sessions and BR days. Currently scoring in the high 150s low160s hoping to break into the 170s by April. Let me know if you're interested!

For the time scheduling of the lsat that is done through Proctor U, does anyone know if we need to create an account with Proctor U before scheduling or do we wait for the email to come in with instructions? I tried to create an account but I didn't know what institution to put.

I'm having a really rough time with creating a study guide and how to even approach studying.

Can you recommend any study guide and studying tips that have worked for you? I'm willing to try different methods to see which one would be best for me.

J.Y. and the LSAT are my partners for today lol

Good luck studying yall

So sorry for the promptness - I guess it doesn't matter too much, but today is my last pt before october exam. should i take pt 89 or 83 as my last one?

And my tutor told me to not look at the score - as this can cause overestimation / overconfidence or anxiety / nerves depending on how I do ? my average right now is a 165.8-166. What do you guys think?

Hi,

In the midst of studying, I take some time to draft multiple versions of personal statements so I am not rushed later when I am looking to apply and to remind me why I am doing this studying. It’s helpful!

But, I am torn on the statement vs supplement strategy. I have a very mixed background: I started college at a conservatory for musical theatre and left reimbursed due to harassment by a faculty member, which drove me to consider legal coursework at my new university. However, at my new university, I also interned in the legal field (with a Judge, at a class action nonprofit, with men re-entering public life post-incarceration, at the US Mission to UN) and took several legal studies courses at the undergraduate and graduate level (wrote papers on LGBT asylum procedure, which included an interview with an asylum grantee in the US from the Middle East, Fourth Amendment tights and their protection of Christian religious single cell terrorism in the US; the legality of securitization around drone warfare, etc.). My thesis was very legally focused (exploring how indigenous communities in Alberta might use international norms to subvert environmental degradation and displacement).

However, even with all of this passion for law, I wanted to test the aspects I loved of my studies in different settings to ensure law is the field for me, so I worked in the non profit sector (public health campaigns) and now I work in the private sector (analytics) to address two main facets of law I love (serving the public as analytical thinking and persuasion).

Now, I know I want to do law, as these career experiences have taught me that I can’t do either in isolation nor address public interest needs in as proactive or impactful a way as I desire without practicing law.

So I’m torn on where I start. I’ve written about 3 statements, ranging from very plain Jane to driven by a metaphoric concept.

Is there a strategy, given my story, that I should focus on with what goes in personal versus what goes in supplemental?

Part of me thinks I shouldn’t take up space sharing the details of my transition from musical theatre to academia given I have other more recent and relevant experience. However, I know an ad com will look at my transcript and say “what happened here/what was that semester gap”? Do I mention anything about the research work I did in while in school, or is the fact that I took a class titled "Rights of the Accused" or "International Human Rights Law" enough?

My gut is to write a very direct statement that focuses on my legal interests/studies and decision to test the other career paths I thought might address them (recognizing they did to no avail). Then, I would write a supplement that discusses how I went from musical theatre to law (this would likely have some more metaphor than the statement).

Thoughts on this strategy? Am I wrong in assuming an ad com will want to hear about what happened that early in my university career, even though I ended up with a pretty decent GPA (3.79)? Also, given that I took about 6 graduate-level courses in undergrad, is it worth listing those out in a supplement as well so that they are aware of the rigor of some of the courses I took?

Should I nix mentioning my research work I did in school and instead include something like that in a supplemental? I plan on addressing my thesis work in my resume under the "academic" portion, which might be enough.

Thanks for the help and guidance!

I have the June LSAT, and I took a PT two days ago and bombed the logic sections. -10 on experimental and -7 on the scored one. I aced the first games, but both times, I encountered some kind of layered sequence (grouping, twist), and I found myself running out of time and guessing.

I specifically took PT91, and the two killers were the electrician game and the crop rotation game. I've drilled since and realized I've tried to categorize first, but how the heck do you do these quickly?

Hi guys! I wanted to get some feedback on this RC question.

The prompt asks for the main idea and the right answer is that 'the views of ecologists and economic growth advocates have only recently become polarized.'

To me, that phrase implies that the passage is about recency. It implies that the passage is primarily dedicated towards explaining a long history of no polarization that has but little time ago turned into a polarized dichotomy.

I agree that the passage accomplishes this, but to me, this accomplishment was used as a template for the author rather than his/her explicit, or even primary purpose.

I detected notes of author view, such as in line 11 when he describes the recent polarization as "sad." On top of that, the way the author describes both sides seems to indicate that he favors the previous attitudes towards the issue, consistent with what Marsh and the Enlightenment thinkers believe. I almost got a sense of sarcasm in how he described the implications of Clements' equilibrium model. The author claims that the model became a "mystique," environmental interference was "taboo," wilderness was "adored." These descriptions made me believe that the author saw followers of this mentality to be radical, cult-like, trendy, and perhaps a form of the "tree-hugger" stereotype.

Back to the first paragraph, the final sentence talks about how the "sad effects" make it "difficult for industry to respond to impact analyses that demand action." This came across as having sympathy for contemporary industries, being pinned down in this polarized climate where (as we would later read) before they could act in harmony with environmentalists and have productive conversations based in compromise and understanding.

With all of that in mind, I was very quick to eliminate D, an answer choice with no reflection of the author's argument/bias, and way too much (in fact, pretty much 100%) emphasis on the mere fact that such a change is recent. Who cares if it's recent? You didn't need to give your opinion and write four paragraphs only to tell us that this polarization is recent. You could easily switch the dates mentioned in the passage, and the meaning would barely change. It would just be polarized ----> not polarized instead of not polarized ----> polarized.

I picked E because I thought it captured the author's sentiment and reflected an idea that the entire passage built to establish. A lot of the passage's content contributes to that idea, while only a few small distinctions affirm that the change happened to be recent.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-4-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-4-passage-3-questions/

I had a few questions dealing with addendas that I was hoping to get input on. A few weeks ago I did tune in for the webinar on addendas and learned alot about content for each topic, so my questions deal nothing with content or length.

My main question is this: how many addendas should you provide? I want to add a diversity statement for sure, but for example, if I felt that I needed to address a shortcoming in my application or LSAT score that will be beneficial to my application and not be redundant, can I have two?

Also, how do I format them?

Should I use a simple title in bold letters? Should I use fancier format options or keep it simple? Font? Size? Anything related to addendas are foreign to me, sorry if these questions seem pointless. Also! For personal statement essays do I add a title or just jump into the essay right off the bat?

Hi everyone,

While I've seen some people state their frustrations with scoring in the 165+ range because they wanted higher scores, I wanted to make a post for those who are proud of their accomplishments to date and getting scores that are reflective of where they want to be. No shame or disrespect to those wanting to achieve whatever perfection they are aiming for, but proud to support others who are doing their best all the same. Especially for those older in the group (30-year-old here!), the single parents or single-income households navigating full or part-time work.

This isn't the end of my LSAT journey (one more attempt will be made in October) but I wanted to give a huge shout out to those who consistently support and provide feedback in the lessons and discussion forums. Keep working hard, be proud of your accomplishments (because no one knows what this test is like unless they've sat through this process), and trust the process!

I am located in the bronx, and would love to meet up in the library to study a few times a week if possible.

Hi guys,

I know that it's not good to start in the Spring semester compared to the Fall semester but let's just say that I start in the Spring semester then plan on transferring after 1L to a better law school.

Is it actually possible to transfer after 1L with spring semester start? or do you know any schools that do accept?

I know that you can for the Fall semester start and I know that it's going to be difficult and people will say I shouldn't attend if I plan on transferring to a new school.

But besides all that, is it possible?

Any experience or opinions?

Thank you.

Hi guys, it's coming down really heavy in my area. I know it's very unlikely that the exam will be cancelled due to weather, but I've heard that it has happened in the past when certain test centres close. Does LSAC send out an email? How are we notified of weather cancellations? Thanks!

Hello, I'm looking for study partners to review practice tests with, and go over hard questions?

Hi guys! I just started with the v2 core curriculum and I think it'll be a great idea to get a study buddy(ies) to help each other through this insane process. Lmk if you're interested! I'd love to connect over discord since it is so easy to use. Thanks!!

Let's make those marginal gains in this marginal game.

Looking for like-minded LSAT loving loonies, preferably already PTing 170+ and can BR 175-180 with a goal of achieving PT-BR convergence and planning to absolutely kill it for the August 2022, maybe beyond.

Intending to discuss and document inferences that break LGs wide open, reading strategies that illuminate the densest RC passages, authoritatively reasoning the most convoluted LR questions, identifying and dodging LSAT writers' most subtle question traps, and making the most of all 2100 precious seconds of an LSAT timed section. Also intend to analyze common patterns of LSAT sections and questions with the intent of being able to identify inferences and predict questions and anticipate answers before even attacking the questions.

Planning on regularly scheduled strategy discussion workshopping, coordinated competitive timed PT takes, and exhaustively thorough and accurate blind review. Goal of at least a few hours of productive LSAT time daily.

DM with your info and availability, maybe a list of some of your untouched PTs. Will determine a workable schedule and setup zoom sessions or a discord server. Let's gooooo.

howdy all, I wanted to let people know how this admissions cycle has gone for me with hopes of shedding some light for others. It's been a very wonky cycle so far. I sent in 18 applications just after Oct 23, right after I got the results for my 169. I applied to all t14 + UCLA, UGA, Emory, and Notre Dame. I was expecting with my "super" soft of being a veteran + being a splitter at a lot of schools or at least hitting their median LSAT that I'd be a shoe in (haha it's actually "shoo in") at a lot of schools, but this has not been the case.

Here are the results of this weird cycle:

Georgetown - waitlist

Notre Dame - accepted

UGA - accepted

Harvard - denied

Cornell - denied

U Penn - waitlist

Waiting still from 12 schools.

Huh? Waitlisted at #7 Penn and denied at #13 Cornell? Then waitlisted at #14 Georgetown?? Here's a link to a very helpful and anxiety-lowering video from Spivey Consulting on youtube she basically explains what's going on and it helped me to manage my stress better.

I hope this info helps some of you, I wanted to be open about my application stats and my results, hopefully other ppl will benefit from this.