Would taking a preptest every other day during the last 3 weeks be a bad move? What about more than every other day, like one on monday, one on tuesday, one on thursday, one on friday, one on sunday, ect?

What about a preptest EVERY day during the penultimate week?

Thank you!

In an ideal word, the best decision one can make regarding the LSAT is for them to just take the test when they are ready. I get that. Unfortunately, I'm not living in an ideal world and am working full time and studying 12-15 hours a week. While this is sustainable for the next month (and maybe until December) I have NO DESIRE to do it again, starting from scratch. I'm currently registered for the September LSAT and will likely score in the 166-168 range. Is there any admissions downside to powering through and taking the December LSAT as well if my score is lower than expected or I feel like I'm on a roll and can add some points with fine tuning? My current line of thinking is that it would be the most efficient and effective use of my time to build on the months of studying I have already done if I don't like my September score and try again for December. I know the advantages of waiting to take the test again in February or June next year include more time to study, but as I mentioned before, my current study regimen and professional workload are incompatible. Any thoughts or recommendations are welcome!

Mr. Ping said that to strengthen an argument, we ought to look for an answer that provides more support between the premise and the conclusion, or provide a reason why the assumption in the argument is valid or sound. But other prep companies (i.e. Manhattan LSAT) say that a valid answer choice to a strengthening question can also make the conclusion more likely to be true, without affecting the premise-conclusion relationship.

When I reviewed PT23 S3 Q10, the correct answer choice B) does not seem to relate to any assumption in the argument, or provide more support between the premise-conclusion link, but rather it makes the conclusion more likely to be true. See: http://www.manhattanlsat.com/forums/q10-if-a-person-chooses-to-walk-t629.html

This question, along with several others, is making me doubt the soundness of Mr. Ping's approach to strengthening questions. Granted, it's always important to identify assumptions made in a LR stimulus that contains an argument, but are we precluding ourselves from selecting the right answer choice to some strengthening questions by doing this alone, instead of also look for possible answer choices that makes the conclusion more likely (adding an additional premise)?

I'm profoundly confused. Can a correct answer choice strengthen the conclusion without touching the premise-conclusion relationship, or not?

Thanks in advance!

Hey there,

As we're getting closer to the September test, I see a lot of posts regarding whether one should post-pone the test for December in hopes of studying more and and getting a higher score>More money and applying this school year or even waiting until February and applying next year (because law school isn't going anywhere and nobody would want to mess up this one time shot at scoring their best/readiest and getting into better school and owe less money at the end).

My concern is how much do you think the person that applies December Vs September could lose out as far getting the application in line first? Though it is true that the LSAT score is the most important part of the application, and every point literarily counts and could put you in a higher percentile> better school>More scholarship, when does the application being late vs having a few higher points start hurting the look of your application? for example would someone with a 160 taking September LSAT, applying before thanksgiving ( the appropriate time to have everything posted, with schools opening application Oct 1st) get into "better schools" ?than someone with a 164 applying almost late December ? I would appreciate anyone that has looked into this matter or has solid information that could help me out!

I recently adjusted my schedule to be able to take my PTs at 9 am. I had been taking them in the afternoon before this and was getting mid-high 160s. I took one this morning for the first time and got a 156 which is the lowest I've gotten since my first ever PT. Is a ten point drop normal when changing to morning testing times? And what suggestions does anyone have to get your mind on point in the morning?

I'm looking for someone to take five sectioned prep tests with - we don't have to take the same tests, I just find it very useful to have at least one other person writing it with me. I've been doing 2-3 tests weekly, will be doing at least three tests/week in September.

I'm planning to take the September test. If we take the same prep tests - yay - BR together. Otherwise it'll be motivation/support.

So after exam 52, the exam introduced comparative reading on the reading comp sections. Does 7sage have any of those lessons covered?

Hey,

It'll be my first time taking the LSAT and I could use some advice. My plan was to take the September 27th test, but I'm having some doubts. The factors influencing my decision are:

Pros (for September Test):

1. Right now I've taken off work and have a minimal class load, all conducive to getting some thorough studying done. If I take it any later I'll have to go back to working a bunch of hours a week, and won't have nearly as much or as intensive study time.

2. Getting it out of the way- studying for this thing is a massive time commitment, and as much fun as argumentation and logic can be, being immersed in the LSAT day in and day out for three more months seems daunting at best.

3. I'm averaging a 170-172 consistently on Prep Tests, and while I'd like to score higher than that I'm afraid of the plateau and the burn-out that three more months could bring on.

Cons:

1. I only found 7sage a couple of weeks ago- and while powering through modules and PTs, my score has gone up (I was in the 165s-169s before starting). A lot of JY's comments and the general vibe around the site seems to caution against taking it too soon or going at too fast a pace to cover the curriculum. I'll be done with the modules in a week or so, but I'm concerned moving so fast may be costing me some attention to detail- which I'll need to be in the high 170s.

2. Test and Pre-test stress and jitters- getting closer to the date has got me freaking out. It hasn't changed my scores, and it may just be my response to any test date, not just a relatively close one. Still, I wonder if that's a sign of unpreparedness or just part of the experience.

I'd appreciate any and all advice to help me evaluate the options. Any clarity on the test preparation process/ timeline/ move from the low 170s to the high would be kindly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nova

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Just took my first prep test and I am super dissapointed. I have been reading so much material on the LSATS and doing logic games since about June. I am completely shattered of the thought of getting a 140 on my real LSAT in sept. I do not know where to begin to improve my score and I am registered to take the LSAT on sept 27th. My goal is to get into the 160s. I have a 3.55 cum GPA. Any advice would be great. I just picked up both the power score bibles for Logical reasoning and Reading Comp. I work full time and also go to college full time while trying to study for the LSAT.

Thanks

Justina

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-4-question-13/

I wanted to check my understanding on this question vis. all of yours. I got this question wrong, however, in my blind review, I noted a necessary assumption and wanted to see if it's actually necessary to the argument or if I'm fooling myself.

The n.assumption I identified was that the quality of the teachers are more important to the quality of the education than the size of the class. If this weren't true -- if something was more influential to the quality of the education than the quality of the teachers, e.g. class size -- then I don't see a way for the argument to possibly function, however, this isn't the answer. The answer states that there aren't any available qualified teachers. So I was wondering if the assumption I identified is truly required and just isn't one of the answer choices listed, or if I'm really deluded on this issue. Thanks!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-2-question-24/

I just signed up for 7sage today after reviewing the LG! pretty impressed and want to give it a try.

I have difficulty understanding a logic reasoning Q: 34/section2/number 24.

conclusion: the defendant maliciously harmed the plaintiff.

Premise: malice is intention to harm; defendant intentionally harmed the plaintiff coz the snow that def wanted to get rid of on her car harmed plaintiff;

i intuitively knew the answer but i could not articulate what's wrong with the argument. can anyone help expalinit ?

many thanks!

Evan

I have been studying for about 3 months now but my LR section score actually has gone down quite a bit (from 5-6 wrong to 8-11) and I have a difficult time finishing it on time.

Timing is my biggest issue with LR and RC section.

It seems like it does not help that English is my second language as I tend to go through two step process of translating a paragraph if it relies heavily on scientific words. But I am sure I am not the only non native speaker who's ever taken LSAT. I would like to believe there is a way for me to get a high score.

My initial preptest score was 148 then when I took another one a month ago, I got 158.

However, since my LR scores have gone down, I am not so confident about 158 anymore. My test date is September 27th. I thought about postponing it, but instead, I think will opt out for a score cancellation

I am 6 months pregnant and working full 40 hr/week.

Will it be absurd for me to sign up for Premium with my schedule?

And how helpful is it????

My target scores is 170s.

Should I just stick with what I am doing now (self study with Preptests materials) and come back later for a more serious course like Ultimate?

Help!!

Has anyone else had problems with 7Sage loading? The first couple of weeks that I used this website I had absolutely no issues whatsoever, however this week the screens are constantly trying to load and timing out. I have really enjoyed the lessons, but I am spending a lot of time waiting for the website. It is a complete motivation killer! My internet is otherwise working fine. Anyone else having issues or have any suggestions? Thanks!

Hello, as the discussion title states, I am wondering why there is such a big difference. I have been studying for about 5 weeks and finally took my first PT (the June 2007) and scored 146. After Blind Reviewing, I managed to score a 167. Can someone please help me explain why there's such a big difference and what I can do to actually score my Blind Review score in future PT's I take? Thanks!

Just wondering what's up with the Advanced Logic lessons? All other lessons seem to be working fine, but none of the lessons in the Advanced Logic section are working. I have tried deleting my cookies and clearing the cache, but it did not resolve the problem. Anyone else having the same problem?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-2-question-20/

I found this question especially tricky because of what I perceive to be a logic gap in the stimulus. The critics argument can be boiled down to (Justified public funding) -> (indicated that public will benefit). The stimulus then goes on to say if this relationship holds true, then we would not be seeing the public support for this project, suggesting

!(indicated that public will benefit) -> !(justified public funding for this project) -> !(public support)

Is this the right interpretation? I have trouble accepting the second part which asserts that justification of public funding is necessary for public support of a project. I don't see where this is verified in the stimulus.

I read an article about a study that claimed the genre of music you listen to affects your intelligence. Then I read another article about a more recent study that claimed that the genre of music you listen to does not affect your intelligence. Regardless of which one of these studies is true I was curios to know what you guys listen to in general or before a practice test. And do you think it affects your test-taking skills?

When I was practicing logic games I was listening to Fabolous' Gettho Fabolous album but am not sure if it helped. Logical Reasoning was damn near impossible to understand while listening to music.

Is it in the morning or afternoon? This is my first LSAT and I want to adjust my PT taking time accordingly. Thanks!

Did anyone else have trouble with PT 65 in particular? I've scored between a 167 and a 173 on the last 7 PTs (newer PTs), averaging around a 168. I got a 163 on this PT. My strongest sections are RC and LR, with those hovering around a +24/+22. I'm working on improving LG, where I usually score around a +16/+18. LG felt easy, but I completely tanked the Game 4 with an incorrect gameboard. As I was completing RC, I could tell it was just a really difficult section. But as I worked my way through the LR sections, I thought I was doing really well. I corrected two answer choices during B/R in each section of LR, and not only did I miss all of the questions that I actually got wrong, but I changed several correct answer choices! Typically, I know when I missed a question as I'm answering it. I know that I missed something and I just move on and fix it in B/R. Today was completely different. I'd be less concerned if this happened with a PT in the 40's or 50's, but PT 65 is so recent that I'm worried this is a trend I'll continue to see...I'm registered for the September administration and running out of PT's to take. Did anyone else have an off test with PT 65 in particular? How do I re-adjust my strategy if this is a trend I'll continue to see? Any insight would be much appreciated! (:

Hi,

I'm not using any of these test prep books because of what I've read on law school forums about how they're not very helpful and not "actual" LSAT questions. But I'm just curious to know, what makes them unhelpful? Is the making of an LSAT question so complex that it's just impossible to replicate unless you are an LSAT test writer?

I could use some help figuring out which section deserves my focus more. Here is my dilemma:

Logic games is my worst section for timed tests. However, I'm very good at fixing mistakes during a blind review (0 to -1 consistently).

My LR is 4% higher, but I can't get the level of accuracy I do in blind review as I can in LG.

I want to focus on one section at a time. Which one should I focus on for maximizing results in a short time. I'm taking the September test.

I'm surprised that no one has asked this.

Mr. Ping seems to be someone that just "gets" it from the very beginning. Maybe he wasn't superb at Logic Games when he started prepping, but would it be a fair for me to make the assumption that his LR and RC skills were already at a high level?

Now that I've bought the course and listened to dozens of his videos to the point where I hear his voice when doing LSAT questions (especially LG), I now suspect that Mr. Ping is a LSAT "natural".

What was your cold diagnostic score, Mr. Ping?

Do you guys ever wonder about the people writing the lsat? My image of them is that they sit around a big wooden table and think and every once in awhile someone will say, "Hey, get a load of this one," and they laugh and say, "Yeah, that'll throw 'em, let's do it."

I am taking the LSAT in September and really banking on getting a high score. Both semesters freshman year I received sub 3.0 GPA's (2.7 and 2.3), but ever since I have received above a 3.9 in much more difficult courses. Therefore, a high LSAT will further legitimize my progress from freshman year and show that my overall GPA is not truly reflective of me as a student, which is about 3.45 now. I have heard that you can send in an application early, and once you receive your LSAT score can quickly add it. Would it be detrimental to send my application early to some of my more prospective schools or should I wait to start the application process after I receive my score if I believe it will drastically improve my resume? Or will they see my GPA and have a weaker outlook towards me from the onset?