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Hi all! I'm based out of Toronto, Canada and looking for a buddy (or a few!) who'd be willing to meet up every week for an in person study session. Maybe some virtual sessions as well outside of that. I'm planning to take the LSAT in the new year but haven't yet set a date. It'll be a parallel work ongoing study group.

If you're interested, please reach out! :)

Hi everyone!

I am going to be taking the LSAT-Flex for the first time in June, and am hoping to only have to write it this one time. Accordingly, I have been trying to do as much studying and reviewing as possible between now and then. My average score has been fluctuating quite a bit, ranging from 160 - 170.

I recently completed PrepTest 87 (June 2019) and finished with a score of 164. However, I am having difficult understanding some of the questions I got wrong. I have listened to some explanation videos, but am failing to see why the multiple choice answer I chose is not "more right" than the correct answer.

If anyone could explain any of the following questions, I would really appreciate it (specifically, why the answer I chose is incorrect).

S1 - RC: #3, 11, 13, 14, 24.

S2 - LR: 14, 17, 18, 19, 24, 26.

Thank you!

Hey Feb Peeps! We got work to do!

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Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76, click the link of the conversation you’re attending and PM your email for Google Hangout.
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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” In other words, if you know the answer, keep it to yourself. Use your reasoning to win the argument.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
  • I saw a question similar to this posted a few years back, so I want to see if there are any new updates or other people with this issue and how they overcame it.

    I am a US citizen but I got my undergraduate degree in a foreign country (Taiwan). I want to apply to law school but worry about my ability to qualify (will admissions accept my foreign degree?).

    Does anyone have any advice or resources that can answer this question?

    Hello everyone,

    I am scheduled to take the LSAT on April 12, 2024. However, I began studying on December 20th, 2023 and fear my timeline is too short. Is it generally a rule of thumb to give yourself more than 3.5 months to study for this exam? Should I move my test date to June? HELP

    I'm confused as to why people think it is easy. The LG and LR was definitely easier than normal but I think the RC made up for the lack of difficulty. I got right around my average score. I'm not sure why people think it's an easy test. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

    Hi all,

    Long time discussion thread reader, first time poster. Last July, as I prepared to enter my senior year of undergrad, I began preparing to take the LSAT in November. I was on track to take the test then but was briefly derailed by several COVID-related hurdles (an all too familiar refrain). I finally took the LSAT in February and scored a 170. This is a score with which I was happy (I had a 158 cold diagnostic so I was satisfied with the increase) but felt I could improve on. Before the February test, I was consistently PTing in the 170s and was shooting for a goal score of 173. Now, I'm less than a month from graduation and am trying to strategize the best course of action moving forward. I'm about to start my first real, adult job in June (a harrowing thought) and am trying to determine whether I should juggle a prep and work schedule to get those 3 additional points (most likely in August), or if I should cleanse my hands of the LSAT and let my applications settle as they will in the fall (for reference, I'm a non-URM/non-international applicant with a 3.8 GPA. I'll most likely apply to a handful of T-14s and really have my sights set on a school like Columbia or NYU).

    If anyone has wisdom to dispense, I'm all ears. Additionally, if anyone is in a similar position (currently scoring upper 160s-low 170s, shooting for mid 170+) please shoot me a message so we can work out a study group situation. Thanks all for your time and help, and happy LSATting!

    So phenomenon - El Niño - is expected to increase in coming years and this thing causes HEAVY WINTER RAINFALL in T.

    Conclusion: Average rodent population in T will increase in the coming years.

    WHY: Because rodent populations normally increase during LONG periods of suatainsmd rain.

    Hope this layout helps you see that the author is probably either assuming that long periods of rain will occur with heavy winter rainfall or that heavy winter rainfall will cause these long periods of rain.

    A. UM ok? this doesn't really appear to do anything to the argument

    B. Ok but we know there is going to be heavy rain doesn't really hurt the argument.

    C. Ok so I think you can't take other situations which are clearly not the same as T to be indicative of what is going to happen in T. Maybe to have more rodents you need the perfect variables which T is going to have thus our argument still stands.

    D*. In T winters marked by HEAVY rainfall (the one that's going to be caused by El Niño normally does not mean that LONG periods of rain occur. This hurts the argument a lot, because it pretty much says "yea we are going to see a lot of heavy rain with this phenomenon but it actually rarely occurs for long periods meaning it probably (rains and stops....) which means we probably won't see an increase of rodents.

    E. (Was very confused with this one) But this just requires to many assumptions

    The global warming caused by air pollution (the same sufficient conditions for El Niño) is going to produce a large number of effects that could affect rodent populations.

    Ok for E to weaken you need to assume that these effects are going to affect our rodents in T, also you need to assume they are going to be bad effects and not let them increase the average of rodents. What if the effects make them super human NYC type rodents, what if its a positive affect for rodents and actually increases them more.

    Hi 7Sagers,

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    Hi Folks, I have been studying for just under a year and taken the LSAT twice. I am stuck in the high 150's and can't seem to break 160 (which is my goal score) I have a full time job and am attempting to go back to school after a long time since undergrad. I have done Magoosh LSAT prep and all the core curriculum for 7sage but I struggle to remember all the concepts under time pressure or some of them still just aren't sticking. Any advice for pushing up a few more score points?

    thanks in advance!

    Hi! I am taking the august test using LSAC's loaner tablet. Does anyone have experience taking the test with it? It can both stand or just rest on the table, does the proctor care in terms of how we set it up? I am wondering how the proctor will see me if it's resting on the table. Also can we use ctrl f on this device?

    Current student in Philly planning on taking the August LSAT, practice test-ing in the 155-160 range looking to get up to 170+ range. Let me know if you're interested, and also preferred method of communication. Thanks :)

    I'm looking for 1-2 people to BR the LR and/or RC section of full timed PTs. I'm scoring in the 150s and looking to score 160+ on the August Flex test. I'm planning on taking 3 PTs every week and doing BR in the evening. Looking for people scoring in a similar or higher range and available to review on one or more of the days (MWSaturday).

    Hi everyone! I am trying to do a big u-haul of how I approach LR questions. I am trying to have a heightened focus on accuracy and process over speed and results. I'd really, REALLY, appreciate it if someone could give me feedback on how I analyzed/broke down this question and the answer choices (I got it wrong the first time). Thanks a bunch!

    Conclusion: Herniated disks and bulging disks could not be the cause of serious back pain for back pain sufferers.

    Why?

    P: Half of group 1 had these herniate disks and bulging disks, yet they did not experience back pain.

    The argument fails to consider something.

    Flaws I can see:

    These are two groups of people, how can we conclude something based off of two groups with distinct differences (back pain sufferers vs non back pain sufferers)?

    Perhaps there are other key differences that cause the herniated disks or bulging disks to cause back pain for actual back pain sufferers.

    Answer Choices: The doctor's argument fails to consider the possibility that...

    A) This has it really wrong. To make it work, I needs to say the following:

    A factor that is in the presence of a certain effect (HD or BG and no pain) may nonetheless be sufficient for a different effect (HD or BG may be enough to produce serious back pain).

    This is not what the answer choice says, though. Also, how do we know that HD and BD do not NEED to be present in the circumstance where back pain is present?

    B ) Yes, though worded in a way I did not expect, perhaps a third factor and herniated disks and bulging disks all cause serious back pain. This matches the flaw #2 I have above.

    C) . This AC has the argument flipped and is assuming the error in the argument- that is the fact that perhaps the herniated disks are present and contribute causally to back pain.

    D) This is not the flaw. So what if herniated disks might not occur in half the entire population? The flaw is that they are erroneously concluding something about two different sets of people (back pain vs non back pain and what causally contributes to both).

    E- The error is not in the comparative likelihood of herniated or bulged disks' presence when there is pain vs when there is no pain. The flaw is that nevertheless, they are assuming that even if (imo) there are herniated disks present when pain is present, the pain is not caused by the herniated disks. Perhaps herniated or bulging disks and a third factor all together cause back pain.

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-4-question-19/

    Hi all! I bought access to the full course, and saw that according to the course syllabus you don't start doing the PT's till you finish all the class material.If i study 40+hrs a week, that means I don't start doing PTs until at least week 7. I know we shouldn't spoil past real exams, but was just wondering has anyone tried incorporating PTs into their studying before finishing all class material? like taking one PT a week just to track progress or get a feel for the entire exam?

    I am the vice president of my school's mock trial team. We are hosting a mock trial competition on Jan 13th and 14th at the Kline School of Law. We are still in need of judges for Rounds 3 and 4. Rounds 3 and 4 will run according to the following schedule:

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    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone knew more the less the frequency of Hybrid Games in the Logic Games section of the LSAT??

    So out of 4 Games, how many are likely to be Hybrid games? All of them, half of them, maybe one?

    As I was practicing the PTs offered here in 7sage, I noticed that pretty much every single Logic Game in the more current exams are a Hybrid of sequencing, matching, and grouping and all of them were quite elaborate. None of them were exclusively sequencing, matching, or grouping. Is this how the LSAT will be? All Hybrid? If so it's fine I just would like to know if anyone has any insight or previous experience.

    Hi!

    My friend who went to Yonsei UIC and I are starting an online LSAT study group. He has an official score of 176 and my score fluctuates from 166-172. I am not sure if this means anything but I have a degree from Johns Hopkins. We also have another member who scores around low-170s in the PTs.

    We meet at 7 pm-9 pm Korean Standard Time on Wednesday.

    I have a Zoom Pro, so we can meet without interruption.

    We also plan to meet offline at Gangnam station for a group study or maybe even a dinner or drinks if we gather enough people.

    If you are interested, please send me a DM and I will invite you to the KakaoTalk group chat!

    Thanks! (:

    Throughout my LSAT journey, I have referred constantly to this post, which noted the most difficult individual PT sections in all three pre-August 2024 LSAT components. I wanted to follow up on it with updates and remarks that I believe may benefit those taking the April and/or June 2024 LSATs.

    Most difficult LSAT sections according to 7Sage Analytics, as of March 2024:

    LOGIC GAMES:

    5-star: 27, B, C, 34, 88

    4-star: 5, 18, A, 30, 31, 35, 62

    LOGICAL REASONING:

    5-star: 5-S1, 7-S4,17-S2, 17-S3, F97-S1, 23-S3, 28-S1

    4-star: 1-S3, 3-S4, 4-S1, 5-S3, 8-S1, 8-S4, 9-S2, 10-S4, 11-S4, 12-S4, 14-S2, 14-S4, 18-S2, 21-S3, F97-S3, 22-S4, 24-S2, 26-S2, 27-S1, 28-S3, 33-S1, 39-S2, 45-S1, 62-S2, 69-S4, 70-S4, 71-S3, 72-S2, 76-S2, 78-S1, 81-S2, 84-S3

    READING COMPREHENSION:

    5-star: 30, 65, 74, C2, 79, 84

    4-star: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 15, 18, 19, 21, F97, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 33, 35, 38, 43, 45, 47, 48, 50, 51, 53, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 73, 75, 76, 78, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 91

    A couple of remarks:

  • Where are PTs 92-94? Those PTs have all their sections ranked 3 stars or lower (in some cases, even as low as 1 star!)
  • Will RC be just as difficult in April and June? I would say yes. Given how many 4- and 5-star difficulty sections have come up since the 60s range, I would recommend against neglecting RC and perhaps even going through one 4- or 5-star passage on each of your study days (you can do that by generating drills with passage difficulty set to "Hardest")
  • Should I be going out of my way to challenge myself with older 4- or 5-star difficulty sections? It depends. A lot of the LR sections listed above have outdated question forms and may be better for pure question type drilling. On the other hand, I did not reach a consistent -0 on LG until challenging myself with doing the PT A, B, and C LG sections timed and becoming exposed to all sorts of complex game formulations. It's really up to you and what your goals are
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