Just wanted to thank the whole 7Sage team for helping me obtain my goal. Your course and a ton of prep tests were the only thing I used. I am really grateful that you guys put such a great product on the market at a price that I could actually afford! Cheers!

Hey 7Sagers,

Had someone write in with a question I thought you could help out with! Here it is:

I was just wondering if you could let me know a list of your recommended formal logic textbooks that might help me with LSAT study. Just to give you a little background, I have read LR Bible once and watched all your lectures and have done all the LSAT prep tests once. I plan to take an official LSAT exam 2015 December.

My problem is that my brain stops thinking for moments and try to re-read stimulus over again and again to process the pasdage or stimulus especially when I encounter convoluted sentences or difficult logics. Especially when I feel pressured by time limit, it gets worse.

I heard from some of my attorney friends that reading law school text books and studying and analyzing actual cases may help. I just wanted to get your opinion on this if it would really helps. I feel only studying with LSAT prep tests is not sufficient at my level.

I would so much appreciate it if you could provide some tips.

Thanks!

I'm currently in my undergrad looking to get the best possible score on the LSAT. I started off by just sitting down and knocking a practice test out to see where I was at and to gauge how much work needed to be done, as I predicted I scored very low, 150. Which I should be excited for but I'm working to get into the Stanfords, Columbias, etc, and we all know a 150 won't do. Now I am unsure of how to perfect my score. What books would you recommend? What style of studying? Anything would help early on in the stage I am currently in, thank you fellow 7sagers!

So I've been siting at the library for approximately 2 hours and I am still on the same video lesson :/ for some reason my wi-fi is acting up. I am connected to the public library's network but it keeps saying "Looking for Networks.." So I cannot watch the video I'm on because it literally stops every 5 seconds and doesn't want to come back. But everything else works perfectly fine except the video lessons. Does anyone with a Mac ever experience this? Any steps on what to do?

For those of us waiting to take the October or December, does anyone know when the June LSAT will be released?

Thanks

I have noticed that there don't seem to be any recent responses from J.Y. or his team on any of the comments after any of the lectures for many, many months. Does anybody know if they are still being checked? No sense leaving questions for the authors of this study guide if the comments are not proctored.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-09/

Can someone explain why D is not the right answer? I was struggling between B and D but eventually chose D.

I am not having much luck getting any responses to my study buddy inquiries using the beta program, perhaps because I am still at least two test cycles away from taking the test. So, I thought I would try a discussion post to see if anyone out there is starting their LSAT prep now for one of the 2016 test dates (perhaps June or October, 2016) and would like to get an early start on a study buddy partner?

Please note that as of July 6th, I am not updating this thread as much. There are far too many BR groups for me to keep track of. The newest BR groups will be at the top of the "Study Groups" category, here:

http://classic.7sage.com/forums/categories/study-groups

Please PM the author of each thread to be invited to the BR group! (Note: I am not the author!)

BR Calendar: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wNxrEU0-YfiID5upvTUlAOo8J-MvXfM2K7mvUkcD1xc/

BR groups always active through Skype! Add nikkers625 on Skype, or PM Nicole! ( @nicole.hopkins )

Q: What happens during these BR groups?

@nicole.hopkins We go through every question in the test, in order. Where LR questions benefit from diagramming, we use a white board app (links provided during the call); we also diagram all of the LG using the same app (several people diagram since some of us use slightly different methods).

Everyone takes the PT for that week under timed/exam simulating conditions. Then, those who are able BR the whole test on their own (I am often not able to BR the whole thing on my own and it's literally never been a problem). We meet on Skype at the appointed day/time (usually 3.5 hours, give or take) and go through the whole test. It's fun and hardcore.

For a lot of us, the PT's we do are retakes but everyone benefits, no matter if it's a fresh test for you or not. Feel free to listen in sometime to see what it's like (PM me with your Skype handle).

Little less than 3 months left

I need a 5 point boost .

Suggestions please ?

I plan to review June test hard this weekend to review my errors. Most of these are in RC and LG.

I'll Begin manhatten reading comp this evening.

Master LR since this was my best section.

And increase logic game speed using 10 copy method .

Any suggestions ?

Well, everyone, I did it. I got the score required to get me into the school I'd like to go to. Ultimately I'm still not sure how I feel about it. For those of you who know my story, I'll make this brief. My first time taking the exam I received a 147. It destroyed me. I remember I was playing ranked and just straight up afked and curled into a ball (kudos to those who get the reference.)

LG killed me on this exam and the exam I took prior to this one. I'm not exactly sure why? It is literally always my best section on PTs (-2, -3, -5 MAX). Sure I have a few off exams, but it was never a huge issue. Anyway, on this exam I did better on LR/RC, this exam I didn't panic or freak when I hit difficult questions or felt pressured. I had been here before and I knew how to handle it. So far I applied to 2 law schools (with my previous score) and both of them are over an hour away, very very expensive, and offer very low amounts of living wage aid. In all honesty, even with my Hyundai Veloster, I don't think I'd be able to afford annual gas costs. You may be asking why I put myself in this situation, and my answer is that I didn't perform well on the last exam and then, there's my family.

So, I was a bit lucky. I was given a chance to retake the exam and possibly get another shot at my school if seats were not full. I wasn't promised anything but, hope, however small, widened my eyes and made me hit the books (well I used the Internets, I only used one book and that was the LSAT Trainer, LOL) again. This time I had 5 classes, and a crap load of other responsibilities. My family played a huge guilt trip on me. My grandfather bought me a car (the Hyundai Veloster). This was something he had saved/planned for since I was a kid, but he was using it as leverage with law school because he thinks if I take a year off he won't be around to see me graduate. This killed me. My father threatened to charge a lot for rent, to the point where I'd "barely be able to study" (whatever that means) and also played the guilt card with my grandfather. My uncle did the same with guilting me about my grandfather. Every time I brought up waiting a year, I was dismissed without further discussion. My girlfriend supported me, but I felt alone on an island overall. From my understanding, family support during law school is very important. Yet, I couldn't garner any support pre-law school. This frustrated me. This is MY future. They all dismissed any advice from people I quoted on 7Sage, my counselor from undergrad (who went to law school, practiced, and now is in charge of pre-law advising at my school.) No matter who it was and no matter the credentials, they did not care. I even tried to have a friend of mine (who they knew well) explain it to them. He took a year off to study for the GMAT, got a 700, and went to Minnesota for a masters in business (graduated top of his class), and is now going to Georgetown for a masters in finance. Once again, his words did not stick.

This is a rare opportunity, though. My score, although it may be too late for my desired school, is good enough for the next cycle and I may be able to leverage that to take a year off. There is absolutely no reason for me to put myself in huge debt for a year, possibly screw up, and not be allowed to ultimately transfer to the school that is not only a lot more practical, but better for my future (my desired school is 5 minutes away, I completed my undergrad there, is SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER, more living wage money for assurance, and has a lot more job opportunity post-grad.) I think this argument will leverage pretty well, because it's tangible and backed by my current score (previously they thought if I wait to take the exam I may fuck up and screw myself in the long run.) I can then study AGAIN for the exam and possibly do a hell of a lot better, and get better scholarships. Also, during my year off I can pay the capital on my student loan and slowly pay that off as well. What's your advice, everyone? I know a lot of this stuff may be too much for a 7Sage forum, but I feel if I ask for advice all details should be on the table.

Tl;DR Not sure how to feel, got desired score but felt I could have done better if I wasn't pressured/forced by my family to rush it. Can possibly use my current score to leverage taking a year off if seats are full, and can study to get more scholarship money and not put myself more in debt just to save a year.

I'd also like to take the time to thank 7Sage for everything it has given me. I would not be where I am today without you guys to guide me through this journey. I'd also be broke as hell. I have more to say, but's for a later time and another post <3.

This has been on my mind a lot lately--I've been studying Mandarin on and off for about 4 years, and recently became quite serious about it. It's rather sad to know that once I go to law school I'll essentially be unable to proceed in my language study to any meaningful degree, so my goal is to apply to a few programs and live in China for at least a year (State Department or teaching most likely).

I'm not really sure if it would be wise for me to send out applications this fall and then request a gap year if accepted (from what I've read, only 5-10 requests are granted per year), or if I should simply wait and apply upon my return. If the latter, is there a way for me to somehow save or store recommendation letters from my current professors? I imagine it would be unwise to take advantage of that resource, especially if forgoing it means resorting to non-native English speakers writing them instead.

If anyone has experience with anything remotely related, I would be very glad to hear your thoughts. :)

I remember @"J.Y. Ping" makijg a printer recommendation in a comment somewhere but I've been searching high and low and can't find it. I'm sick of this inkjet bullsqueeze and want to get a laser printer but I don't want to end up in a driver war between my printer and MacBook... Any suggestions?

1. If my blind review gives me the same answer for a question, as the first time around, do I still enter the same answer under blind review under "LSAT Analytic"? Eg: if I picked C during timed test for a question, circled the question because I'm not sure, then in the blind review, I still think C is right, do I mark C as my blind review answer, even though it's the same answer as before?

2. Would someone help me understand what's the reason to do blind review BEFORE you check your answers? My question is that if you do blind review before check the answers for the questions you got wrong, won't that reinforce wrong thinking? Please let me know if I'm missing something here.

Do anybody know anything about Stratus Prep admission Counseling

Does anyone BR the entire PT, or just the ones that were circled? I'm just now starting PT and I just want to make sure that I'm understanding each question type. I only circled those that I wasn't 100% but I guess I just want to solidfy that I know this question type and why I chose the answer. My plan is to BR the entire PT in the beginning of my BR studies then only BR those that I've circled once I've gained more confidence. I just took my first PT and for some reason I feel like I just took the training wheels off my bike! Does anyone see any issues with BR the entire PT? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Printer - I purchased the Samsung 2020 laser printer someone recommended. I know the ink should last longer with the laser printer but I think I'll still be using lots of paper with LG. I have been using wide ruled notebook paper. It's much cheaper than printing paper, especially this time of year because of back to school sales. Most times you can get it for about .25 per pack for about 150 sheets, $1 for 600 sheets. The printer paper I buy is about $3 - $4 for 500 sheets. Can anyone think of any issues using this paper could create? I haven't been able to come up with anything. I'm just trying to figure out the cheapest way without screwing myself over in some way. Thoughts?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-24-section-2-question-09/

Can someone walk through the Lawgic of the answer choices?

In context, if it helps, I have a 168, a 3.79, and very strong extracurriculars and wondering if it's worth my money to apply at the following schools, where I would fall above the 25th percentile but below the 50th percentile? Is it worth it for anyone to apply at a school where they fall in the 25th percentile?

I really appreciate any insight

[School's 25th percentile LSAT/GPA]

- Columbia (170/3.58)

- Harvard (170/3.75)

- Stanford (169/3.8)

- UChicago (166/3.79)

Data: 2014 http://www.lstscorereports.com/national/admissions/2014/

How long did it take you to get into -0-3 range? Been working on logic games for a few weeks now and almost finished the core curriculum of logic games (haven't gotten to logic bundle yet, only problem sets), and still feel I cant accurately complete any new type of game that comes my way. How long did it take you guys?

Is the diagnostic an accurate predictor of your true potential, with a score increase of 8-10 points given some hard work?

So I've been studying for the LSAT since about February, only really studying in earnest since April. I have the premium course but I am still only 80% done on the core curriculum! I really hoped I could get through the core curriculum by the end of June but have been experiencing waning motivation these last few weeks and haven't been hitting the books as hard. I work full time, try to work out 3-5x a week, cook for myself, all that general life stuff gets in the way. I aim to study about 15-20 hours a week, in reality it's 15 in a good week and more like 10 hours per week on average. I'm also struggling because sometimes it says it'll only take 20 minutes for a logic problem set but it takes me 2+ hours to drill and review that one set 10x like JY says we need to!

I know this topic has been covered a little but but just wanted to hear others weigh in on what works for them. I absolutely cannot wake up earlier for the life of me, so I have been trying to stay late at my office after 5pm and study from 5-9 where there's no distractions. So I get home at 10. That seems to work except it leaves me feeling absolutely exhausted and very burnt out by Friday, and I usually have to get take out or something for dinner those nights. I've also been fairly successful at working out during my lunch break which has helped with the time management somewhat.

Also with just these last three months before October, can anyone suggest what I should really be focusing on? Would you suggest I just try to fast track through these last 20% of the core curriculum and start PTing as soon as possible? I've worked out I could probably do 2 PT's per week during the summer. I've also taken a few days off work here and there on Fridays to try to get more 3 day weekends this summer to allow for studying. I am aiming for a 170, my diagnostic was a 153... Any tips at all is helpful.. or perhaps some commiseration! Lol! Good luck everyone!

Hi all!

I'm new to the course and trying to get into the 7sage techniques. One of my first lessons is the June 2007 PT, which I took a couple weeks ago before enrolling here. I scored the whole thing and got a result. Now I'm not sure if it's possible for me to do a blind review on it? I marked which were wrong and wrote all over it. Should I just move on and make sure to do it with all my future PTs, or is there a way for me to BR this specific test?

Thank you! :)

Alright, I'll try to make this as short as possible. I'm trying to decide whether or not to take the Oct. 2015 test, which would be my third time. I sat in both Feb. (159) and June (164). I got a solid boost, but I was really wanting 167+ for the schools I want to go to. As soon as I left, I knew that the games destroyed me (my worst section), but I ended up with -4 (not too bad for me), and -7 on RC (normally my best section, -3 or -2). I also got the LG/LR/LG first three sections, which drained me mentally and may have killed my morale a bit. I've completed the 7sage curriculum and taken every test from 36-74 except for # 72 (and I heard that there's a previously undisclosed one out now?), so I won't have any fresh PT's to study with. The average over my last 10 tests was a 165.8 (which is right on target supposedly), but the range is huge: from 161-173, with a 171 in there also.

I feel like I should retake just on the fact that I did worst on my historically best section and the chance that I get a test that meshes with me better (like the 170's I hit). But the average is where it's supposed to be, and I pretty much have nothing to study with except one PT, so I thought I'd ask you guys. Thanks for reading!

So I just signed up for the Premium package, and I'm confused as to what my plan of attack should be. I took the June LSAT and scored a 164. I missed -1 in logic games, and -2 in one of the LR sections. The Reading comprehension section and other LR section made up the other misses, about -8 for both. I started doing the 7sage methods for studying before taking the lsat, specifically blind review and the method for LG. Im curious if I should go back through all the lessons, or if I should just get the practice test books again, and start going through the questions using the 7sage methods while for the most part ignoring the teaching materials. I had originally used powerscore method up until I finished the books, then I discovered 7sage's methods about 3 weeks before the LSAT, which is when I applied their methods. Thank you for the help

Got a 148 diagnostic in January and have worked solidly since. Just took my first PT and also got 148.

Feeling deflated :(