Hey all, currently my study and buddy and I Blind Review practice tests every Sunday afternoons, like 3:30 PM-ish PST, over Zoom. If you are planning on taking the April, June, August, or December test and also want to review with us, please let me know!
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Does anyone know how likely it is to get a experimental section as your first section of the LSAT? I am worried when I take it that I will be hit with an experimental section at the beginning, and this will knock off the rest of my test.
Hi Everyone!
Head’s up: later this month, LSAC is doing a system-wide upgrade that will affect some of their online services. It will begin at 5 p.m. ET on Friday, December 22, and is expected to end at around 5 p.m. ET on Saturday, December 23. During these 24 hours, certain LSAC services, including candidates’ online accounts on LSAC.org and LawReady, will be offline.
During this time, people will be unable to complete transactions such as registering for a future LSAT, submitting fee waivers or accommodation requests, accessing their accounts, or submitting applications.
Services on LawHub.org will remain available during the upgrade window. Scheduling for the January 2024 LSAT will continue through Prometric. However, information on candidate accounts will not be updated until the upgrade is completed.
If you have any further questions, you can contact LSAC via https://lsac.zendesk.com/, email them at lsacinfo@lsac.org, or call them at 215.968.1001.
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-1-question-04/
Correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.
*The kind of question this is:* Weaken
*Premise(s):* Marijuana has THC → THC has been found to inactivate herpesvirus (IH) → IH can convert healthy cells into cancer cells.
*Conclusion:* Marijuana can cause cancer.
*What I am looking for:* extra information that we didn’t know about marijuana and its correlation with THC.
*Answer A:* No. That strengthens the argument by showing that scientists had a consensus and the same results.
*Answer B:* Yes. There is information we did not know about marijuana and how it neutralizes THC.
*Answer C:* No. That strengthens the conclusion.
*Answer D:* No. Great, but that is only an “IF.” It would still stand that marijuana causes cancer.
*Answer E:* No. Marijuana is beneficial to cancer patients, but it would still cause cancer for none cancer patients.
Hi all,
I never thought I would be asking about this on the 7Sage forum, but I figured I would since you all want to go to law school. Are there any jobs that require a college degree but no professional experience? Ideally those that relate to legal work. Also, if you all have any suggestions on where to look I would appreciate any direction.
Hi,
Just looking for study buddies, in Winnipeg, MB, however in the CDT time also works or in Canada! I’m planning on taking the August LSAT
Does anyone know of any admissions group chats? I know LSD has chatrooms but I was thinking more along the lines of group chats or discords for people applying fall '24. I don't know many pre-law people, just attorneys from work, as I am in the workforce and am first-gen. If anyone wants an accountability partner for the admissions process please hmu! I've got a 164 and am going to be applying to several schools around t50, mostly in the midwest. Thanks!
I was browsing youtube in my daily routine to relax before the test when all of a sudden, I got hit with a deja vu moment. For those who remember the RC passage about the ultraviolet catastrophe:
Enjoy~
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Hello, everyone. I am studying heavily for the LSAT and want to link up with anyone else who is gunning for the June 3rd exam. My ultimate goal right now is to attend the most prestigious school I can get into, and what I am really hoping to do is connect with even just one person who shares this mentality. It is less important for me what that school is for you, and more important that you are studying for the LSAT with that goal in mind. I know there are many reasons to attend law school and many reasons NOT to adhere to the logic I list above when pursuing law school. Regardless, for my own reasons, this is my mentality approaching school and is the mentality I am seeking to develop in community with any others who share it. I appreciate everyone's respect of that.
In my mind, our meetings would be less about studying itself and more about just getting together once a week (or however many times) at a public location (coffee shop, restaurant, etc) to discuss our situations and connect over shared goals. I would be open to taking full, timed PTs on weekends together, but really I am just looking for some accountability and competition.
About me: 22-24 yo, 1-2 years of post grad work experience, attended liberal arts college in the NE.
Hi! I'm in Charlotte NC and don't know anyone else applying so would love someone to study with. I plan on taking the test in October 2014.
Most Authoritarian Rulers passage:
Hey guys after watching Nicole Hopkins' webinar on RC Methods and Jimmy Quicksilver's webinar on RC Question Types and Tips I thought it would be helpful to start sharing our notes/annotations for each passage because each of us reads a different way and we all see different things. I want to be clear that I’m no expert by any means and this is just the way I personally annotate that is a combination of Nicole Hopkins’s “Toolbox” method and JY’s Memory Method. Also note that I’m doing RC a slightly similar way to Pacifico’s Fool Proof method in that I’m doing the passage 2x one after the other and then once again the following day. While time consuming this definitely is allowing me to read more efficiently for structure and see the similarities in each passage which I know will help me in the long run. This is part one which will just include my annotations for the passage (Most Authoritarian Rulers) and I'll post one that has analysis of the questions immediately afterwards.
I hope this helps you guys and I look forward to seeing what you guys see in each passage!
Notation Breakdown:
Who: Important Nouns
• Box it along with the quantifier
What: Term or phrase that’s defined or has relevant information afterwards
• Box with a tail
When: Date or time
• Circle it
Where: In what context
• Put brackets around it
Pivots: Switching between viewpoints
• Marked with >
• Also may help if you distinguish which opinions each are
Questions: Questions someone raised that could be answered in the passage
• Mark with a Q or a ? In the margins
Time Breakdown of reading/annotating before going to the questions
• 4:05
Paragraph 1:
I boxed with tail “Most authoritarian rulers” who undertook democratic reforms (The quantifier “most” was important because an answer choice could have said “all authoritarian rulers and would have been out of the scope of the stimulus”)
Underlined “they” for referential phrasing
I put a pivot after the “but” to show that annotate that the real reason why the author believes that many authoritarian rulers undertake democratic reform is because they see that they can’t hold onto their power unless they do so
Boxed changes and mobilizations because I anticipated that was where the passage was going from here
What is the function of this paragraph:
This paragraph is introducing the author’s main point: “Due to the various changes and mobilizations in civil society it makes it impossible for authoritarian rulers to hold onto their power indefinitely so they undertake democratic reform.”
Where do we think the passage is heading from here?
Well the first paragraph mentions “changes and mobilizations but we don’t exactly know what exactly they’re referring to so that might be an indicator of where we’re heading from here
Paragraph 2:
Immediately Box “Three types of changes” because this lets you know that more than likely the author is going to talk about what the 3 changes are.
• Also note that these “Changes” are the changes and mobilizations in civil society that we annotated earlier
Box with a tail “values and norms in the society alter over time” until the end of that sentence. I wanted to box this with a tail because I wanted to get the first type of change along with showing how it changed civil society.
• Also I put a 1 in the margin so that I could quickly see where the values were when I needed to refer back to the passage
In the next sentence I put a bracket along with “Ex” in the margins so that if it asked about that specific example I could find it
• Also I circled 1970’s and 1980’s so if they had other dates as an answer choice I could quickly eliminate it
I underlined the last sentence in the paragraph because it shows another way that the changing of values and norms in society impact an authoritarian rulers’ power
What is the purpose of this paragraph:
This paragraph gives us the first type of changes in civil society that make it impossible for rulers to hold onto their power
• A change in norms and values
How does the change in norms and values contribute?
• Reduces people’s tolerance and stimulates concentration of power thus stimulating their demands for freedom (11-13)
• As people place more value on political freedom and civil liberties they become more inclined to speak out, protest, and organize for democracy, frequently beginning with the denunciation of human rights abuses (17-22)
Do you have an example of either of these points:
• Latin America in the 1970’s, 1980’s (13-17)
Where are we going from here:
We talked about the first value that contributes to society’s no longer condoning the continuation of authoritarian rule so my anticipation would be that the next paragraph would talk about the second change
Paragraph 3:
Box alignment of economic interests in society can shift: This is the second change the author gives
Box scholar: Let’s us know who is saying this
Box with tail and brackets from privileged people to long-term interests:
• We want to box privileged people so we know who we’re talking about and you want to make sure that you read with and without the internal context of who the privileged people were
• All of this is important information because it gives us a way how the economic interests shifting could impact the regime
Box “such a large-scale shift”: This is just so you can remember what type of shift we’re talking about the shifting of changing norms and values
Bracketed and put “Ex” in the margin for the Philippines example, for the exact same reason we did the Latin America example, if we’re asked about it we can easily find it
What is the purpose of this paragraph:
This paragraph gives us the second change that can contribute to a society no longer condoning the continuation of authoritarian rule
• Economic interests in a society can shift
How do the shifting of economic interests in a society contribute to the author’s main point
• A turning point is created when privileged people in society come to the conclusion that the authoritarian regime is dispensable and that its continuation might damage their long-term interests.
• (26-31)
Is there an example of this:
• Transition to democracy in the Philippines
Paragraph 4:
Box “expanding resources, autonomy, and self-confidence of various segments of society and of newly formed organizations both formal and informal”
• This is showing the 3rd and final change that contributes to the author’s main point
Bracket the next 2 sentences and put Ex in the margins
• This gives you visually a clearer point to see two examples of this change
Box this profound development: Referential phrasing to the example above
What is the purpose of this paragraph:
This paragraph gives us the 3rd change that contributes to the shifting from authoritarian society to a democracy
• Expanding resources, autonomy, and self-confidence of various segments of society and of newly formed organizations both formal and informal
Are there any examples of this:
• Students marching in the streets demanding change
• Workers paralyze key industries
• Lawyers refuse to cooperate any longer
• Alternative sources of information pierce and shatter the veil of secrecy
Paragraph 5:
Box “authoritarian rule tends in the long run to generate all 3 types of change
• This helps us understand that we have to deal with all of these problems not just 1 or 2
Box with tail “Ironically” until the end of that sentence: Could be asked about the author’s attitude towards this situation and this gives a glimpse into their tone
Bracket the last sentence of the passage
• Gives lasting thoughts to what the author believes (If you don’t convert to a democratic society then you won’t be able to retain any of your power)
What is the purpose of this paragraph:
This paragraph brings together all of the ideas and hints at the authors tone throughout the passage along with his thoughts moving forward regarding this issue
Overall Analysis:
This passage is pretty straight forward it introduces the issue (Authoritarian rulers are unable hold on to their power indefinitely unless the switch to a democratic society), then uses the following 3 paragraphs to go into detail about each change that contributes to this issue, then the author brings everything together and leaves you with his lasting thought.
I recently did AP3 RRE1 Exc1 PF1 and didn't get question 10 correct. I chose A because it mentioned synthetic products ... which does not mean that they are natural. However, this choice was incorrect. Can anyone explain how they got the right answer?
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just wondering if I'm missing it or its just not there
If I cancel my 7sage subscription, will I still be able to see the PTs I have already taken? I just want to see which questions I got wrong/right.
Heed my story as a brief word of caution that could save you some frustration in the future.
When you begin the LSAT writing section, do yourself a favor and flick over to the ProctorU Owl tab that manages your recording and ensure the microphone it's using is set to the correct device. You can do this before opening the reading prompt itself during the pre-check when you hold up an I.D. and take a photo of yourself. The writing sample is self-proctored and does not give you a prompt to check your audio settings. The most it does is flick over to that tab I mentioned to ask what window you want to share (in Chrome, not sure how it looks in Mozilla), but once you hit OK it goes back to the test. Unless you know what you're doing, you'll miss the chance to tweak audio settings.
Storytime:
I have a handful of mics I use for different tasks (Zoom meetings vs. casual PC game nights with pals vs. speaking without a headset on) and sometimes software searching for a mic to record on my computer can become confused by the volume of options. I made the error during my LSAT writing sample of assuming because they were using my webcam to record video, then it would also be recording audio (JY if you read this, don't publicly shame my logical mistake). As you may well know, the writing section is self-proctored, there isn't another human there to say "I can't hear you." So, I went on my merry way, silently crafting a response to the prompt.
I just got an email today asking me to re-take the writing section because my submission did not have any audio due to their software choosing to record an incorrect audio input - in fact, what their software decided to record wasn't even a mic at all. It was a piece of software I use to filter my mic audio output.
If I had been shown the audio input screen more clearly, more deliberately, I would have caught this error immediately and prevented myself from having to take the section twice. When I retook the section today, I found the ProctorU device management screen and manually changed it to my webcam for both video and audio recording. I'm praying this works, otherwise I will be a unhappy camper.
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I am having some self doubt and would love to hear thoughts!
I have been studying for the LSAT since late September now, and have improved my score from a 152 -> 162 so far. I am hoping that if I keep up my pace I can get to a 168, but truly a 162 isn't bad either.
I am having doubt about if I timed taking the LSAT incorrectly. It's my first go-round, with little guidance on applications and I'm not applying to a t-15 school. Is January LSAT going to be too late to send in my scores with my apps? Should I wait to apply until after my LSAT? It will be the first I have taken.
I really want to apply this cycle, I am just now facing that doubt that I'm sure many do as the time creeps closer and you're doing something that no one near you has done.
Any advice? Tips? Relatability?
Thank you
Really struggling to improve my RC section. I've been stuck at getting around 10 questions wrong each time. Any suggestions to break through this?
From PT24.2.21
a) No effective law is unenforceable
If a) is true can we rephrase .... If not effective then not enforceable?
I know the correct understanding is ... If effective -> then enforceable.
::brain melting::
This question doesn't have an explanation, so I wanted to see if anyone could back up my reasoning.
The flaw of the question stem is that it confuses necessary conditions for sufficient ones. Correctly formatting the script as well as having it be submitted by an agent is necessary for the script to not be discarded, but it does not guarantee that it won't be. There could be another reason, such as that it arrived too late, that it would be discarded.
A is not the correct choice because it is a valid argument.
B is not correct because it's a different flaw. It takes for granted that Jon is a good cook. You can also argue that it's flawed in that the necessary condition "delicious" is subjective.
C is correct, although its a bit tricky. It confuses sufficient conditions for necessary ones. Exercising daily or quitting smoking will improve Bob's health, but he doesn't need to do either one to improve his fitness level. He could lose weight by dieting for example. I think this is what makes this question so difficult (5 circles).
D is incorrect because it's a different flaw. It confuses the sufficient conditions for one argument with another. A car not having a permit or having an expired one are sufficient conditions for police being allowed to ticket. The Police being allowed to ticket does not mean they will ticket; They could give you a warning or maybe do nothing.
E is incorrect because its a different flaw. It takes for granted that because a dog can do advanced tricks it will respond correctly to basic commands. It's possible that a dog could do a backflip but would refuse to sit.
let me know if my reasoning is accurate - thanks!
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I got my Associate's for transfer in a bit less than 2 years and finished the rest of my credits at a University in 2 years. So total education time was 4 years. I took a couple community college classes while I was a high school senior and I took classes every summer and intersession. I guess I should have requested transcripts not just for LSAC but for my own personal review as well bc I do believe there was a period of time like one semester when I was just taking one or two College classes (technically part time??). I think my IGETC transfer was already approved at the time and I just had to wait until the Fall to start university. I was working 35 hours a week during that period as is evident by my resume.
I guess from looking at my transcript one might wonder why I didn't finish my education in 3 years. I just didnt think it was necessary and didnt even think about it until now bc I finished my 4 year degree in 4 years like normal and I honestly dont entirely remember how many classes I took.
I already sent in 3/8 applications and one of them was my [Realistic] Top Choice as it's a top 50 school in a location I love and just based on my GPA and LSAT I should get in with like a 20k merit scholarship.
Did I just ruined my chances of getting in?
What is the difference between observation and phenomenon on LSAT?
If anyone would like to contribute last minute summaries and strategies for RC, LR, LG please feel free to post!
Example:
How to find the main point/main conclusion of the argument.
(If I'm wrong feel free to correct me and I will update it)