I have been at times confused about the exact meaning of attacking a premise.

When a stimulus includes a study that says, for example, most people with certain genes hate apples in a weaken question, if an answer choice says "some studies show that most people with the same genes do not hate apples," this is considered as attacking the premise, right?

But if an answer choice says something that implies that the study did not include enough people to provide a legitimate level of support, it is not attacking the premise.

Is it a correct way of understanding the concept of attacking a premise?

going to take September test , drop me a line : duanzhuo85@gmail.com

in Davis or Sacramento

I've been using a book classifying LR questions from PrepTest 1-20 into different types but found the questions in it are a bit tough and different from recent LR questions. Is it still useful to get practice from these questions? I mean, by how much?

Any thoughts on this?

Alright JY, this one is specifically for you.

I have now spent more that 24 hours watching these videos, and I'm still stumped.

Early in the videos, you said "through the miracle of Microsoft Paint" you were going to show us something.

How did you get so good at drawing accurately within paint?!?!??! Do you have one of those fancy drawing tablets? Are you not actually using paint?? Did you sell your soul for LSAT skills, and the devil threw in Paint skills as a freebee?

I keep watching these videos and trying to focus, but I'm constantly distracted by this errant thought of "How is JY doing that?"

So your answer would definitely be appreciated and help me do better while studying and on the LSAT.

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to gain some insight on how others are tracking their progress. I currently use a pretty old school method, simply pen and paper (agenda) to keep track of what my goals are to get done each day, what I actually end up completing, how many hours I put in, and additional comments for notes or reminders.

What do you guys use to keep track of your studying? I know there are LSAT analytics or other excel based methods for PT tracking, but what about for those who aren't at the PT stage and would like to keep track of how many hours they spent drilling per week with notes maybe explaining why 1 session was longer than another. Looking forward to seeing what everyone else does.

PS: if anyone has a great online/excel based method for this type of tracking, would you be willing to share it?

Thanks,

Christian

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-4-question-19/

This question is giving me a hard time. I am pretty sure I have translated correctly. Please chime in if you know where I am going wrong.

It is a MBT ?

First Premise: MCA (Mail that is correctly addressed) --most--> A2D (Arrives in 2 Days)

Second: MCA --> [/A2D] --> DT (Damaged in Transit) - The sentence says "MCA [takes longer than this] only when DT." I think this is where my mistake is, but we will see.

Third: /A2D - most mail arrives in 3 or more days

The Answer: A large proportion of mail is incorrectly addressed

I’ve heard so many times that the LSAT is a test of pattern recognition. Some people define pattern recognition as anticipating or pre-phrasing answers. There are only so many possible wrong answers for each of the question types. Studying for the LSAT is similar to learning how to play chess. After a while, you can anticipate what moves your opponent will likely make.

What does pattern recognition look like for you?

This has happened to me at least twice now. The first time thought I had just messed up but the second time it happened was quite sure I entered into the right box. It happened in Firefox 30.0.

I don't want to spam the comments or I'd just double check real quick myself. Happy to provide any other info.

Here is what I did:

1) Post a reply to an existing comment on a LSAT Explanation.

Like this one here: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-1-game-1/#comment-18875

2) After you post that REPLY edit it within the 5 minutes (not sure if this is part of the bug, but I did this in both instances).

3) In the box at the very top above all the other comments, the one where you'd normally post a comment that is NOT a REPLY to any other comment, post a comment in there.

Expectation:

I'd expect posting in the box at the very TOP above all other comments would post a top level comment.

Actual Result/Possible Bug:

It posts it as REPLY to the comment you replied to in step 1. Not as a general reply to the explanation.

I noticed that wording of these two MSS stems are slightly different.

1. “The statements above, if true, most strongly support which one of the following?”

2. “Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the statement above?”

I think that the first MSS is a subset of Must Be True. The stimulus is a given.

The second MSS is a strengthening question. The stimulus is suspect.

Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks!

Looking forward to hearing from you.

I'm planning to take LSAT for the first in September. I'm looking for study buddy willing to study 6 hours a day. Anybody?

Any general tips will help ! I have yet to see any improvements after studying a month

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-10/

I am confused as to why A is the answer choice and not B.

According to Kaplan, they say if A is correct then it'll be a rare candidate who takes a chance on the authors strategy, as the media may only air the opposition and disregard the later support. They further that by stating that media is a huge part of national campaigning. But wouldn't that be an outside assumption we would make. And aren't we only suppose to take what is given within the stimulus to support our answers? Because that is why I disregarded A as an answer, thinking who cares what the media covers because it doesn't limit the SPEECH, the speech is still given and still heard from those attending and such. Where as if you choose B if many people do not find politicians in the first place then that would make practically any strategy they choose ineffective, no one trust them... Can someone help me where my thinking has gone wrong here?

I saw this clip on YouTube about the death penalty and I thought it was really interesting and something us future lawyers should think about...

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-4-question-14/

I have questions about (B) and (D)

First of all, an answer choice like (B), "ignore the possibility of benefits from lowering speed limits "other than" environmental and safety benefits.

I can see sometimes it's a right answer because a flaw is an author doesn't consider other factors except for the factors mentioned in a stimulus. But sometimes it's a wrong answer because it's out of scope just like Q.14.

So I can't really find out what kind of stimulus should be if an answer choice like (B) is a right answer.

Whenever I encounter an answer choice like (B), I'm always stuck.

Lastly, about (D), how is it still a right answer? Shouldn't it say both saving lives and protecting the environment just like the author says?

I mean it only says about "protecting the environment" and doesn't say about "saving lives". So that's why I entirely don't understand why D is an answer.

Can anyone explain me?

Thanks!

I figured out a way to cover learning all the Logic Games types, by using only 5 PrepTests (56, 57, 58, 60 and 61). This pretty much covers all the game types, except for the super rare ones. I choose these 5 PTs in particular because these are considered newer and more reflective of the current LSATs. Yet, I can avoid burning any of the newest PTs (62-71). And the last reason is that I can purchase all these LSATs in a single book. This would be the “10 New Actual, Official LSAT PrepTest” 52-61.

Sequencing

PrepTest 60, Game 2

PrepTest 61, Game 2

Basic Linear

PrepTest 56, Game 1

PrepTest 57, Game 1

PrepTest 57, Game 2

PrepTest 58, Game 1

PrepTest 60, Game 3

PrepTest 61, Game 4

Grouping: In-Out

PrepTest 58, Game 2

PrepTest 58, Game 4

Grouping: Splitting

PrepTest 61, Game 1

Grouping: Matching

PrepTest 56, Game 2

PrepTest 57, Game 4

Linear and Grouping: Matching

PrepTest 56, Game 4

PrepTest 58, Game 3

PrepTest 60, Game 1

PrepTest 60, Game 4

Linear / Grouping: In-Out

PrepTest 61, Game 3

Grouping: Splitting / Grouping: In-and-Out

PrepTest 56, Game 3

Grouping: In-and-Out / Grouping: Matching

PrepTest 57, Game 3

I was working on PT33 LR Section 3 Q.8. The stimulus starts with "Most people invest in the stock market without doing any research of their own." Turning it into Lawgic. At first I did "People research/ -most-> invest" But my instinct says "Invest -most-> research/" is also right. Because when I ask "what do I know about these investors?" The answer I get is "Most of them do not do research."

However, the conditional Lawgic rule states "without=sufficient negation."

I am sooo confused.

Can anyone help me?

Hi there,

I don't want to waste the problem sets so I can return to them later, but I want to make sure I'm getting the most out of them. How many problem sets should I do before moving on to the next lesson?

I'm sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but I couldn't see the answer anywhere!

Thanks!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-4-question-06/

I know the conclusion is computerized "expert systems" cannot be~ and all of the other sentences are premises.

And I chose A as an answer, but the correct answer is B.

I really don't understand why A is wrong and B is the right answer.

Can anyone explain me please?

Thanks to J.Y. and 7 sage, my PT scores have improved from the low 160s to the high 160s or low 170s.

But I have not been able to make further improvements.

Advice anyone?!

I finished my first quiz of the course on MC. I got 8/10 and did it in 12.29min. I missed the 2 due picking the wrong conclusion (no indicators). This is easy if you can find the conclusion in the stimulus, all you have to do is find it paraphrased as an answer. I got the rest right so not to think I can't identify a conclusion with no indicators. But, you can tell it's not my strongest pursuit I guess.

How do you suggest I take the next step? I only had one quiz set so there's no more practice left through 7sage. Should I move on to learn about MSS... it's my next lesson. Or should I practice more MC with old PT's? If I practice more, how much more before I move on to my next lesson? FYI taking the Sept LSAT.

Thanks!

Anyone else getting a Bad Gateway message?

I cleaned the cache a number of times, but it still does not work.

Help please!

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Is anyone in the area studying for the September test and looking for a study partner? I took the June test but I think I am going to retake it in September and I'd like somebody that I can take tests, study, and keep motivated with. :) I live nearish Tyson's Corner for reference.

Hey, if anybody in NY (Brooklyn) wants a free copy of Mike Kim's LSAT trainer, the Logic Games Bible from powerscore and (I don't know why you would but...) marked and scored books of PTs 52-61, 29-31 and 61-71 you're welcome to come any of it. Just come pick it up anytime before the 17th of this month. PM me and we can figure it out.

EDIT - ALL GONE.