Just signed up today -- planning on returning to school and am really trying to obliterate this exam. Looking for like-minded people for accountability, study groups(?). I am free during all weeknights!

Hi everyone, My name is Shane K. Im currently 30yo, have a BAS in audio engineering, currently own my own business and just recently passed the Washington state real estate exam. As of December, I decided i want a new career and decided to try and get into Law School (Seattle Law University to be exact). The next available LSAT for me to take, realistically, is in June so i scheduled that. I also just recently purchased all three of the LSAT bibles and wanted a course to sign up for. I was thinking KAPLAN or 7sage, leaning more towards 7sage. But i was wondering do I need the 549$ package or is the 349$ good with the 3 bible books I have as well? Also do these packages offer everything i would need? PT's, books, etc...? Sorry if this message seems all over the place, im in my real estate listing class right now :) Thanks everyone for the help in advance.

When I do ultimately go to law school I'm going to be living off of loans (hopefully somewhat of a savings acct) for living expenses as well as obviously tuition from-- loans. Hoping for a couple or a few scholarships. So I'm considering the fact that I've got under grad student loans... is that going to affect my ability to get the maximum amount in student loans I can for law school? I'm trying to get credit card debts paid off as well as build on my savings account within the next 16 months. Would it be wise to try and save as much as I can or apply some of that money towards paying off the financial aid loans I already have outstanding?

Hey guys so I just wanted to share some great news. Today was the first time I got a 162 on a PT and 168 on Blind Review. My initial diagnostic was a pathetic 142. I really never expected to be able to score what I am now and with the test only a few weeks away I feel more ready to conquer this test. Don't give up guys. The lessons and the blind review method are really helping me and I know they can work for you too!

Hi all,

I just joined 7sage, with the intention of taking the June 2015 LSAT. I've done a bit of prep with the Powerscore bibles over the last couple of months, but haven't felt particularly satisfied or inspired. So I was happy to join 7sage, when I discovered it recently; I really liked its animated approach and the structured study schedule it offered. My question is for anyone with experience of using the LSAT Trainer alongside 7sage: have you found the two to be compatible? I've read great reviews for the Trainer, and am curious if it might be a good way to get additional prep while and after working through the 7sage curriculum?

Thanks!

Should I do any LR, LG, or Rc problems untimed before BR or should I just stick to the BR process and do all the problems timed at first and then only do the circled problems untimed during BR?

Can anyone please help me how to negate the conditional statement?

If a statement is "if you get 180 on LSAT, your chances of getting into T3 increase," how would I negate this? Thank you so much for your help guys.

Alright so I am an idiot. I was waiting for some money to come through before paying for the Feb LSAT rego. Slipped my mind that Friday was the deadline and now I will taking the June it seems. This could possibly be good, I need a 170+ and since moving onto 50s PTs I have sunk back down to high 160s. Thing is, I was hitting it hard in the prep material and have finished all of it. I don't mean PTs, but I read both LG and LR bibles and a few other resources. I don't really think it would help me to read anything else at this point. So basically I have five months now with only PTs to do. To prepare and stay ready over the next few months will just taking two PTs a week be a good call? One every other day? Where do I go from here?

If it helps, I have almost gotten LG down 100%, but my LR scores dropped quite a bit in more recent tests. I keep missing some obvious detail on four or five questions every LR section. When I blind review I want to hit myself for making such a stupid mistake. Damn Shell Game answers!

Hello all, I believe I understand the concept of sufficient and necessary conditions and their relationship, however, I am confused when in a flaw question the author or speaker confuses a necessary and sufficient condition and what this means and looks like. For example, in PT 64, section 3, question 11 - one of the answer choices says that the individual confuses sufficient and necessary conditions (it is the wrong answer choice). I haven't come across a question where this has been a correct answer, but I would like to understand further what this means. If anyone could give me an explanation for what this means or an example of what this would look like, I would really appreciate it!

Do you go to a library where some noise might occur? Do you stay at home with ear plugs and no one else home? Do you use mechanical pencils or wooden pencils? J.Y. said that when PTing we should simulate testing conditions as much as we possibly can. This ranges from possibly using the room we may take the test in, to using wooden #2 pencils instead of mechanical (which sucks because mechanical feels so much better in my hands).

If you're studying to retake the exam, what felt out of place on test day? Was it random noise from other people? Did they make constant noises such as erasing, ticking off answers loudly, or whisper to themselves? I'm curious, because these were my problems, and although they did not fully contribute to my poor score, I feel the noises played a part. Also, in my opinion, a good portion of the test is being able to stay focused and not get irritated/unfocused when people are doing quirky things.

Is anyone in the Edmonton, Alberta, Canada region?

I'm taking the October 2015 test (retake) and I'll be looking for some study buddies on the weekends! Let me know :) you can respond or e-mail me at harrismegan@live.ca.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-16-section-1-game-3/

Q.18 - The correct answer choice is A - RSRT. Rule # 3 says every R has atleast 1 T adjacent to it. In order for this to be correct, the S in this answer choice should be a T. Therefore, the only correct choice I can see is E - TSRT. Can you please confirm?

Hi everyone,

I'm a retaker hoping to sit for the June test. I work full-time, but I'm usually able to devote around 2 hours of studying after work each day and then multiple hours (5 to 6) on both weekend days. Even just studying for the test again, I can see that after hours of studying, I'm getting a better command of the material than I had before.

The one problem that I've noticed and can't really understand how to fix is identifying why I got a problem wrong and knowing how to avoid the mistake in the future, speaking only really about Reading Comprehension and Logical Reasoning.

I'm looking for patterns (I know they're there!), but I can't seem to make sure I don't get an Inference question wrong on RC again on the next practice section, for example.

I know the strategy depends on the person, but In general, how do you go through your mistakes and what do you do to really understand what went wrong for a question? Sorry if this thread already exists, but any help would be appreciated!

I applied to only reach schools this year despite knowing full well that I might not get into any of them, but I didn't want to squander another year and I'm prepared to take the LSAT again in June to reapply next cycle, so I just decided to apply and see how things shake out, who knows maybe I'll get lucky and hit a waitlist or something. But since I won't know about this until well into spring, I think I should study for the LSAT again (ARGH)! Just wanted to see if anyone else was in the same boat as I am. Thanks!!

Hi all,

I started studying for the LSAT in December. I work full time so I do an hour or two of studying every day during the week and five+ hours each day on the weekend. I've seen my score improve a lot, but I struggle a lot when I get to the last five to six problems. On these problems, I will think I have the right answer only to find out that I missed some minor detail that lead me to choose the wrong answer.

I get so frustrated by this and discouraged. Does anyone else have the same issue? Does anyone have techniques they use for approaching the last problem and/or not getting incredibly frustrated by the difficult problems?

Hi Fellow 7sager!

For those of you who have increased your score by 15 points or higher. How long did it take for you to see this type of results? My goal is to improve my score significantly for the June 2015 test. I'm new to 7 Sage and so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

KG

So I know that JY always tells us that we don't have enough space in the Logic Games section to write big or draw out elaborate diagrams, but I'm wondering how much space are we actually provided? On the PT's, I feel as though we are provided with a lot of space. I don't draw out elaborate diagrams and such, but I feel as though I have more than enough space to draw out however many diagrams are needed. It will be my first time taking the LSAT and I just want to know what to expect. And also, what is the difficulty level of the current LSATS as opposed to the older ones? I have only the starter package and I've bought PT 73 and 74 recently. And in conjunction, I plan on using the Cambridge LSAT to drill question types, but it only uses PTs 40(?)-61. Thanks in advance!

I just noticed that all of my preptest books are from either December, June, or October. How can I get February preptests?

hey i am looking for a study buddy for the june 2015 lsat i am scoring in the low 70s to high 60s really looking to move up i also have a lot of packets and material that u might find helpful so please let me know

Hi Everyone,

I am a little early in the game - currently at Weakening Questions practice problems…I was wondering if its necessary or truly recommended to do the practice questions timed or to do BR on them. Is it better for me to just do them leisurely and kind of make sure I am doing them right? Making it a one step process instead of two? And then worrying about time and BR when it comes to the practice tests?

Thanks.

If you check my posts, most topics are worries about burning questions. It is usually mentioned not to burn PTs from 38+ until you drill previous questions and know the material well. This makes great sense to me. Here is my worry: let's take Cambridge Main Point question type as an example. There are 67 questions in the package. So what does keep drilling mean? I can finish these question in couple of days. How can I drill Main Point questions afterwards?

Thank you

Hello, again!

I'm writing this because I wanted some opinions and some personal testimonies on your journey with the LSAT. I want to get a 165+ on the June exam. Here's some back story.

I started studying for the LSAT in late August of 2014. I finished the curriculum, and scored a 147. I worked on really getting my LGs down and I peaked at 157 as my final PT before the December 2014 exam (I had scored three 156s on the PTs following the 157). Needless to say, I felt confident I'd at least receive a score of 155. In wasn't being cocky, I didn't brush off the difficulty of the exam (because a 157 isn't a super high score to begin with), but on test day the LGs killed me. I essentially put all my eggs into one basket and dropped that basket on test day. The one type of LG I tended to neglect (because I rarely saw them on PTs) came to haunt me, the in/out/grouping Rug game. Of course I can't contribute the full blame of my low score (147 on actual LSAT) on that specific logic game, because I got about 2-3 more questions wrong on RC and LR than I did on PTs (I contribute that more to jitters, though). HOWEVER, doing poorly in LG really did sink the ship for me. So I peaked at 157 and I want to hit a 165+ ON THE ACTUAL EXAM, not just on PTs. Is it possible to hit a 165+ or maybe even a 170? I raised in 10 points previously and was hoping another 8-10 wouldn't be impossible! Before, I had about 3 and 1/2 months to study, now I have ~6 months (re-finished the first week of the curriculum within 3 days). Also, there's the fear of burning out. Everyone is warning me about it. However, I feel super stressed all the time (5 classes, 25-30 hour work weeks, and 30-40 hours of LSAT a week), but studying for the LSAT is the only thing that reduces that stress. Yeah I put this stress on myself, but I'm sure a lot of future attorneys do the same thing, so I'm no different.

Ultimately I want to know if anyone else has been in a similar situation. Did you improve? What helped you improve? How much did you improve? Share your story if you have the time!

I took both the September and December 2014 LSAT administrations, and I got a 171 each time. In both instances, I got a -5 on the logic games, which really killed me. I have been doing the foolproof method religiously for 6 months now, and in the weeks before my December LSAT, I was doing 30 games a day. I felt comfortable and really thought I would get a -1 or -0 on the section. Instead, I got -5. The story was very similar for September (although I was only doing about 15 games per day for that one).

In my preparation I did fully simulated practice tests for September 06 onward, and got -0 on games six different times, -1 or 2 five times, and -5 or more on three tests (June 10, Oct 12, and Dec 12). The games seem to have gotten harder for me in some recent tests.

I have done every single game from Preptest 1 onward, and I've done many of those 13+ times. All the games are familiar to me by now. I'm always -2 or better on each LR section, and -3 or better on RC. LG is really holding me back.

I was wondering if you guys had any ideas for how I can get better. I am willing to try anything. I think it's possible that I get time-pressured a bit, and coupled with the pressure of the actual exam, stop making deductions as clearly and resort more to "brute force". Also, there is an intimidation factor of seeing a brand new game, whereas now I'm practicing with games I know I've done before. I'm planning to take the LSAT for a third time in February (I have already submitted my apps), because I know I can do better than a 171 --- my average on 14 fully simulated Preptests was over 176, which included 2 consecutive 180's. One idea I had was to start doing four games at once in only 24 minutes in order to train with the pressure of reduced time. And also maybe do some fake new games I find online. But again, I'm just looking for any tips or insight. I'm willing to try ANYTHING.

Hey 7Sagers,

Got this email that I thought you could help with! Here it is:

Hi,

I am taking the Feb LSAT and have major anxiety. I have been studying for the past 5 months with a combo of test master, bibles and now for the last couple weeks with 7 sage. I have a good general idea of the test but with only 3 weeks to play, I was wondering If I should dive in directly to the practice tests? I scored a 154 on my initial un-scored exam and my goal is 160 or higher. What should I do? Please help!!

Thanks!

We're happy to announce that PT 74 (December 2014 LSAT) will be on sale at 7Sage starting January 15th.

The price will be $5.99 for 3 days only: January 15th, 16th, and 17th.

After that, price goes up to $29.99.

With PT74, you can download the PDF instantly and get +1 month access to all video explanations (from PT 74 and everything else you already have access to).

Some students were confused about the 1 month access time last time, so please be advised that if you don't already have a course and PT 74 is your only purchase, you will only have access to the PDF download + all video explanations for PT 74 for 1 month. If you're already enrolled in a full course, you'll get a +1 month extension on everything.