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Dear friends,

I just missed your group study on Jan 8th. Here is one question I don't know why C is the best answer to Q13.

As the two sentences are responses from Bordwell in proving musicals still fit into his theory, he mentioned that first musicals are derived from live theater, second, a structure from other genre makes viewers prepare for and thus accept them realistic. The author then attack him that "pigeonholing genres" is not necessary for viewers in watching films. So that is choice C is another way saying that "pigeonholing genres" is unnecessary? Thank you for helping me out.

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Hey there!

So, thanks to our wonderful community, I read the trainer and it has definitely helped! Here's my question: The trainer wants us to find the flaw in all the "subjective" questions (the ones we need to evaluate). But I'm still a little unclear on what it wants us to do after we've found the flaw for some of the question types.

For example, I've realized that for strength questions, what I want to do is find the flaw, and then look for the answer that makes that flaw less likely to be problematic. So if the flaw says that this one factor is a determining factor in whether or not the conclusion obtains, then I need to find the answer that makes that more likely.

But I figured that out after a lot of trial and error. And I'm not clear on what, for example, I need to do with a necessary assumption question once I see the flaw.

Help?

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to hear some tips on folks who are very comfortable with Reading Comp. I absolutely loved JYs breakdown and framework for science passage - phenomenon and hypothesis. I studied literature in college, so those science passages are daunting, but with that framework, pretty much every science passage can be broken down into that structure. It's like a swiss army knife to understand them. Love it.

Wanted to hear if you all had similar frameworks for Law / Human/ Arts passages? Particularly law. Those also seem daunting to me and I get overwhelmed by the specificity that many of the law passages tend to have under time pressure. Any type of larger frameworks in law that I can use as a swiss army knife (human / societal practice ---> law, problem existing --> law with answer ???)

Arts and Humanities are fine - my lit degree really comes in handy haha - but would also appreciate your tips in case I get a passage about Ayn Rand or something that I'm not inherently interested in (I hate Ayn Rand).

I usually do pretty well on RC, average 3/4 qs wrong. But sometimes I blow it and get 6-7 if it's a hard science or law passage. Want to be ready for the worst case scenario.

Thanks!

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Hey there fam,

So I was just doing some NA drills when a question struck me. In LR generally, we're looking for the assumption or flaw, and then want to set about our assigned tasks based on what we find. More specifically the flaw in the argument (between the premises and the conclusion). Does this mean then that when we notice an assumption in between the premises (which we are supposed to take for granted) that we just ignore said assumption or integrate said assumption into the group of things we take for granted?

Stated differently, can we think of any scenario wherein that assumption between the premises is something we need to account for, strengthen, weaken ect?

Thanks!

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Do the number of problem sets we're given for different types of LR questions reflect the frequency in which we will see them on actual LSAT tests? For example, we are given 24 Flaw/Descriptive Weakening sets, but only 3 AP sets. Does that mean that on actual LSAT tests that there are likely to be more Flaw questions?

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Hey friends! Until now I've been using charts for grouping games anytime the game pieces can be used more than once, but I just came across a game with those conditions where JY used a standard grouping setup. I was able to complete the game without errors with a chart when I wrote the PT, but after watching JY's explanation I think it would have been faster to use the standard grouping setup instead.

So my question is, should I be using a different criteria for deciding when to use a chart? Thanks in advance!

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Hey all,

I just moved to DC for a new job and am hoping I could utilize, in my favor (and yours as well), the fact that there are plenty of people in the area who are studying for the LSAT. I used 7sage for a fair portion of 2018, but had a hiatus with 7sage and the LSAT due to trying to find a new job, securing the job, moving, and now getting acquainted with the new job. Now comes the time for me to get back into the swing of things. I BR'd in the low to mid 170's when taking practice tests last year, but timed I'm just not even close; I am hoping taking a look at this test from a different perspective and physically talking through it with someone will help. Perhaps that's something that would help you as well? If that could be the case, feel free to drop a comment or shoot me a PM!

In addition to starting a new job, I'm living in temporary housing and moving to a permanent place Feb 1. So, given that life is still a bit crazy right now, starting a group immediately isn't all that feasible for me. I would imagine early February would be doable!

(For the record I looked in past threads about DC study groups and found that the most recent post was over a month old. I commented on it but I'm not counting on it working due to how much time has passed. Consequently, I figured I'd post a new thread on this.)

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Hey everyone-

I am going through the core curriculum for the second time (a year apart) and had an idea I'm playing with and think is helpful.

I started fool proofing both solving the game completely (as JY often does in his video) and never splitting the board. I realized that when under time pressure, I may not see all of the inferences that lead to a full and complete solve, but I still need to find the correct answers in a timely manner.

For an idea of how this looks from a process standpoint:

  • Logic game, timed/raw
  • Check answers and watch JY's video
  • Do logic game again until I can find all of the inferences and answer all of the questions correctly
  • If I was not able to split the game board effectively on my first time through, do the logic game again but test my ability to find the correct answers without the help of a fully solved game board.
  • *Repeat until I can answer all of the questions correctly and well under time without the fully solved game board.

    After doing this, I felt there was another skill set being developed and felt less flat footed going into games if I couldn't fully solve a game board.

    I am going to provide these caveats...

  • Solving the game board completely almost always makes answering the questions easier.
  • Solving the game board completely almost always makes it more likely your answer is correct.
  • Solving the game board completely almost always is faster.
  • What do you guys think? Anyone else experiment with doing this?

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    HELP WITH LSAT!!!!

    Hi everyone! I’m trying to find someone who has taken the LSAT near Vista CA who can meet up with my boyfriend Graham. (IN PERSON NOT ONLINE) His test is this Saturday January 26th. He needs help improving speed and accuracy at the same time. He gets all the answers with unlimited time but when timed he misses some and doesn’t finish all the questions. Please let me know if someone can help. PM me anytime! Thank you.

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    These questions. DAH.

    I went with C for 22 and D for 27. I even got them wrong in BR. I know these questions are pretty weird, but I would love help understanding why the correct answers are correct and why the answers I chose are wrong (though mostly the former).

    Thanks in advance!

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    I'm writing my lsat on Saturday and i keep scoring 4 points below my goal score.

    With my gpa, a score of mid 150 would make me competitive for the law school i want to get into.

    Currently i keep scoring between 151 to 152.

    When i BR my score gets to 155+.

    Any last minute tips to help me boost up my score a couple points?

    It's really frustrating because everytime I do LR the first time around i get -8 to -11, but when i go back to look at the questions i got wrong, the answers which were my second choice are always right.

    And as for LG, I'm doing well in terms of accuracy, however I'm still spending 8.5 min on each game. Which makes it difficult to finish the last most difficult game.

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    Hi there!

    So I finally started getting to all four a couple of weeks ago, which was really exciting for me (I'll do a write up on the 7sage forum posts that made that possible for me after Sat). What I've noticed in this last week however is, that I'm not getting to the last two or so questions (sometimes). I'm wondering if that's because of my policy of saving the comparative passage for last? There's no particular reason for it, it was something a fellow 7 sager mentioned he did because they gave him trouble and so I tried it out (though I haven't noticed the same issue in my takes). Sometimes I do it last because the comparative has fewer questions than the remaining passage (less point potential), but sometimes I just do it automatically rather than waste time thinking about it mid test, and I've almost been too afraid of losing the progress I've made to try the other way (I know, it's not something I should be afraid of and yet). Problem is, sometimes I get to the last passage with not much more than 5 min left. Maybe 6.5 or so. So I wanted to ask what you all thought. If I did the comparative passage earlier, do you think I would be able to get to more questions?

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    Some background information first: I took the LSAT in November and received a 155. I had been studying on my own for 6+ months and with a tutor for two of those months. My PT's then were averaging 157 but I did not follow the same BR method as 7Sage. My goal LSAT score at the time was a 164 or higher (although then I didn't think either was possible).

    Now...

    On the diagnostic PT I received an actual score of 159 and a BR score of 164. This is how my sections on the actual played out:

    LG- 96%, 22/23

    LR1- 72%, 18/25

    LR2- 80%, 20/25

    RC- 63%, 17/27

    Given this score, I feel like I could really improve to even a 170 if I really put my mind to it (I hope I'm not being overly optimistic).

    Obviously, RC and LR are my weakness. The harder questions, usually Q's 17+, are also consistently wrong. I am still planning on completing the CC but I want any and all tips, opinions, study schedule, advice, etc.on how to move forward with my studies to really maximize my score.

    When BR do you BR every question or just the ones you circled? Also, when writing out each Q do you also write an explanation of the mistake you made the first time so not to make it again?

    Any tips for while studying/going through the CC? Should I have review days or anything of the sort?

    How can I get these harder Q's right on the first time?

    Any and all tips are appreciated!! So happy I found 7Sage and this community! Thanks.

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    I am planning to take the September 2019 digital LSAT and I began studying earlier this month with the Khan Academy digital program. On Khan Academy, you can highlight RC passages but not underline, bracket, etc. -- and can't do anything with the LG or LR prompts (although you can use scrap paper for diagramming LG). Now, watching the 7Sage videos, I'm realizing how very helpful it would be to have the paper test in front of me to mark LG and LR prompts and RC passages - and doing my first BR, I noticed that there were a handful of answers I marked incorrectly just because I didn't absorb the question properly!

    I see the 7Sage videos doing things like circling important words in the question stems, bracketing premises and conclusions, etc. I know that misreading is such an easy way to lose points so I'm interested to learn: with the lack of a paper test, what are some ways that I can train my brain to catch everything? I sometimes read a question two or three times and still "hear" it incorrectly! I am definitely a paper-and-pencil kind of person and I love marking up pages (even the books I read for leisure get underlined and highlighted), so taking a digital exam is requiring me to acquire some new ways of thinking.

    Thanks for any thoughts!

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    Sunday, Jan 27, 2019

    Timed Drills

    So I'm on the MSS lessons, and I didn't really do the drilling questions timed, i just did them and then went back and BR-ed them. Should I start doing the drills timed or is it better to take my time with them and save the "timed" part for the PTs?

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    Hi everyone,

    When I was taking the LSAT yesterday my eraser left a large purple mark on my scantron. I want to get my test hand-scored but also want to apply as soon as I get the correct score back. I saw on LSAC's website that I won't be able to request for my exam to be hand scored until the scores are released. Does anyone have any experience with the turn around time for handscoring?

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    There are two archetypes for answer choices: one that starts with something along the lines of "presume", "assume", or "takes for granted"; another that starts with something along the lines of "ignores", "overlooks", or "fails to take into account".

    Most of us can do these questions based on intuition, especially if we use the method that JY taught us. I still visualize the goku doing his kamehameha blast on the car. But for some of the harder, more abstract questions, for me, it helps to realize what these two answer choice stems are saying.

  • When the answer choice says the argument assumes X, the best way to treat this answer choice is as if it were a NA answer choice, and negate it to see if that assumption was necessary, and if so, indeed, without it, the argument is vulnerable.
  • When the answer choice says the argument overlooks X, the best way to treat this answer choice is as if it were a standard weakening answer choice, and just plus the answer choices back into the argument, and see if the kamehameha beam gets bigger or smaller.
  • Hope this helps, cheers =)

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