Hello,

I am in the foundations section and new to studying for the LSAT and I was wondering whether it is important to have indicators memorized. For example, indicators for concessions (context), premise indicators, conclusion indicators, and etc. Thanks :).

After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

Hi guys, does anyone know If I should do day to day plan that I set up, or I should keep going? Honestly lessons are short, and I want to practice regarding what I have learned, but I get stuck in LSAT questions?

Anyone here that is into modern board games have any that would help with LGs? TY!

PrepTest 4 - Section 1 - Question 02

Remember, one is better than 0. The assumption requires that having just the physical exams is necessary and the sufficient argument would be the quality of medical care provided by the laboratory tests, whether uncovered.

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I am currently going through the core curriculum but I was wondering should I be taking PT's while going through the curriculum or wait until I finish it?

This is more of a journal entry for myself as I get closer to test day. Hopefully someone can use some of these!

LG - My worst modality. I wish that I had listened to people from the beginning and just drilled it over and over again. I am really coming to appreciate that mastery simply takes time. If you're new, watch the LG core videos, and then just use the dill auto builder to focus on your worst game types. That's what I am doing now, but I am concerned I started a little too late. I know that my worst games are group-types and Misc. (obviously). So I have been doing 5-10 games a day, with at least one timed section. It's definitely helping.

I listen to the Thinking LSAT Podcast when I'm waiting for new episodes of the 7Sage podcast to come out (prioritize 7Sage's podcast- it's much more practical). One of those dudes said that when he does a LG section, he simply takes it one game at a time- he doesn't watch the clock, he doesn't worry about the next game, he doesn't think about a game that he skipped (if he skipped), he simply gets one perfect game, followed by a second perfect game, followed by a third perfect game, and if time allows, he does a fourth perfect game. It sounds a little silly, but I noticed that my biggest LG score shaker is my perception of time. Not time itself, mind you, but how I feel more and more anxious as the clock is ticking down, knowing that I likely have a harder game up next. I stop focusing, which kills my ability to do the basics- understand each rule, choose an appropriate board, split prudently, don't lose track of rules throughout the game. When I take timed drills outside of PTs, I am relaxed and smooth. I get somewhere between -2 to -4, which is acceptable to me based on my goals. But during PTs, I'll see -5+ consistently. That's the equivalent of almost an entire game. If I had taken 33 minutes to do 3 games, and then guessed on the last, I would probably do better. But I leave points on the table throughout the entire section.

The takeaway is this: do one game at a time. When you do a game, that is it. Think about nothing else. Don't think about how this simple sequencing game should take you less time. Just think about the sequencing game. And then spend more time drilling those games that are slowing you down or causing you to miss points.

LR - In one of the 7Sage podcast videos, Henry says that if you want to get better at RC, do LR. In my experience, I would agree. You're strengthening your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability, one bite-sized chunk at a time. The core videos are again very helpful, but what I noticed is that after doing a few of the full courses for the various question types, you start to feel way more comfortable with all of the types. Spend the time to watch those videos and do the accompanying drills, and you'll see increasing returns with every question type you study.

RC - I have always been pretty good at RC. I think I got a -4 on my first diagnostic, and I will regularly see -1. I don't have as much advice to give, because I feel like I haven't really improved much beyond understanding what the LSAT is looking for. I would suggest being able to paraphrase every paragraph to yourself before moving on. If you can't do that, I wouldn't move on.

General wisdom - There was a period of about 3 weeks that I was trying to get in 4+ hours of studying a day in, plus work, plus the gym. Although I was allotting myself time to review PTs, I simply wasn't allowing my brain the time to heal and absorb new concepts. I was taking a PT every 2 days- test, review the next, test again, etc. That pattern was not conducive to my learning. I have backed it off to 1-2 PTs a week, and spending the rest of that time on focused drills.

Thank you for reading my stream-of-consciousness post.

Is there a method for identifying the ASQ in each Logic Game question set?

Hello. I was wondering how many drills you all are doing when you reach the Drill at the end of a LR question type section. I just completed the PAI section and did two drills because I felt like I needed more practice.

Thanks!

If anyone who has taken/will be taking the LSAT has any specific tips that they would be willing to share specifically on the Analytical Reasoning (logic games) section that would much appreciated.

Hi Everyone,

These questions are some of the most time consuming in LR, and there are many people in the LSAT community who advocate using certain techniques for eliminating answer choices on these questions quickly. These techniques include strategies like: matching the strength of the conclusion (qualifier words), the type of reasoning (conditional, causation, etc.), and other qualifier words such as most, some, all, etc.

However, I've noticed that in recent exams (70's), LSAC has made these questions (even!) more difficult and time consuming by including all of these features in most of the answer choices. (For example, if the stimulus uses "probably" in the conclusion, 4 out of 5 answer choices will all include the word "probably" too.) As a result, they've eliminated some of the 'quick and easy' tells that we had at our disposal to move through these questions faster.

Has anyone else noticed this trend? If so, what other techniques/shortcuts do you use in order to cut through the problem and eliminate wrong answers quickly?

Thanks!

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I am working on the LG section of the CC. I am fool proofing all of the games as I go through them, examples and timed sections. How much time should I plan to give between runs on a particular game? After writing a game out 3-4 times (twice a day), I am able to get it down quickly, but I also feel like I am just memorizing. Is there a particular set of games that we are supposed to full proof or just do them as we go? I am also planning on testing in August, so I have about 3 months to work with.

Hi community,

Looking to form a group of motivated studiers to BR one PT/week over the summer.

Anyone who wants to join can do so using this link -- no need to message me directly or post your email!

https://groupme.com/join_group/59882617/BjYFugwa

I've learned from participating in the community here that talking through problems is the best way for me to learn at this stage of my studying. I'm taking the July LSAT and it's my third and last chance to get a 174+. I've been scoring mid 170s on PTs, and I want to get serious with a group, because I know that's the only way to make sure my performance on test day is bulletproof.

All levels are welcome!

I find it best when there is a mix!

Looking forward to studying!

Zach

Should I be BRing logic games? Or should I do the game timed, check answers and if necessary, foolproof?

I am scoring in the late 150s-early 160s and will have more time to study for the LSAT. I am looking to write the LSAT again by October/November. I’m looking for someone who is dedicated, studying full-time, and ideally scoring in the similar range. Message or comment if interested.

My confidence is down; its seems like my score is worse after the blind review because i chose the answers that I was conflicted about. how do i make myself sure and confident its the right answer; I chose E instead D; whats the difference between cautious vs skeptical

Hi everyone,

I took my first LSAT a few years ago and was hoping I could get some feedback on my writing sample. Don't hold back.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PfuRjWd4XEMTFUFQAS4wAzXAQKb4RCOrGlDRTUSsIIE/edit?usp=sharing

Hi! I’m looking for study partners available to meet up online. I’m hoping to score as high as I can and would love for someone who is motivated to do the same. Please lmk if interested.

hey guys! Is there any advice week of how to study? Should I still be doing sections everyday? Or just reviewing past PTs? I just dont want to burn out! I take the test sunday, so any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you :)

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Does anyone know why either E is wrong for question 21, or why D is right for question 24?

Hi, I've been studying for the LSAT from July this year. My target is 170+ in the Jan 2024 LSAT (ambitious, i know). But my study schedule has not been consistent. It has seen breaks because of a couple of days because of me being sick or vacation or just my mental health. I have been cognizant of the fact that I would have to take a second attempt and the first one is just a trial run to be more familiar with the exam, but what can I do to maximise my score in the Jan (first attempt) exam itself? My RC and LR sections are strong but I'm PTing in the late 40s because of LG.

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So....just went online to submit the final copy of my personal statement and it looks like the site has crashed. I've tried it from multiple different computers, asked my friends to try from home but they're also getting the same internal error message. Called admissions, no answer. Anyone else experiencing this?