I’ve been doing some logic games in my head, the level doesn’t really bother me, but in/outs and sequencing are easier to do than grouping, I’ve been doing this out of laziness but also as mental test. Obvi I won’t be doing this on test day and be assured I’m good at splitting/representing rules. And for the most part I get these games perfect, but I’m not really sure how long they take me Bc I don’t time myself, some i finish rather quickly and some take me a while. I think it’s helping my short term memory and making me quicker w forming inferences, what do you guys think about this strategy should I keep going or maybe not?

Hi guys! I was wondering if anyone would be down to study together. I'm taking the October LSAT and it's coming up pretty quickly. I'd love to review with someone! Lmk, my schedule is pretty flexible but it'd have to be somewhere midtown, maybe like a cafe or something. I go to JJAY!

Help with RC 'main idea' q's

I know I'm wrong, but I look for answers that would nicely summarize the passage. PT10 passage 2 for example is comparing two styles of art: Venetian and Tuscan. I immediately eliminated AC's that only mention one or the other style as this didn't seem like a good summary (trust me, I get that I'm really missing the mark here). The correct AC was [first sentence of second paragraph] something to the effect of the author's main complaint about an art critic's view. The first paragraph, to me, seemed to be exclusively about comparing and contrasting the two art styles. I focused on being able to distinguish between the two. I missed the subtlety of the author's viewpoint-- that the art critic was presenting a view at all.

Whereas the incorrect AC I selected was literally just a true factoid found within the passage that happened to include both "Venetian" and "Tuscan". I am missing out on the big picture. I know it's very intuitive for many. I am very focused on structure and content, so I overlook other important aspects of the passage.

My university hands out A+ (on official transcripts) but it's counted as a 4.0 and counts it the same as an A. When LSAC does my CAS report, will they count the A+ on my transcript as a 4.33 or use my school's grading guidelines and still mark it as 4.0?

Hey everyone!

Wondering if there is anyone that currently has a parent with cancer and is studying for their LSAT? How has studying been? How are you managing both the LSAT and care-taking?

I was originally suppose to take the Nov LSAT and then bumped it to Jan because my father's cancer treatment was a large commitment, he currently has stage 3 skin cancer (don't forget to wear sunscreen everyday y'all). I have a few more days to decide if I still want to do the Jan LSAT or take it in Feb/early next year and apply next cycle (I'm PT'ing around 160-167 timed). I'm 24 right now and I know 26 is not old but I feel a bit pressured to get in next cycle at 25. I worry that I might commit to the Jan LSAT and then my father's cancer might progress which will only lead to more stress and anxiety.

Everyone around me has been nothing but supportive about any decision I make so I'm just looking to get any general advice from people experiencing the same or a similar thing! Thanks everyone and happy studying!!

This question was doozy. I wanted to share with others my notes on how I got the correct answer during Blind Review. During the timed test, I would most likely skip this one and save it for later. It took some time for me to translate the stimuli into a format that made sense to me.

At first, I also thought that the sentence in question was the conclusion of the argument. I had to ask myself what the author was really trying to convince me of; that it is not necessary to be at home to be in your house? No. The author was trying to convince me "You can be in your backyard and not at home, that is, not in your house."

So, my notes to decipher it and arrive at the correct answer looked like this:

Difficult argument structure. I think it is C because if we rewrote the stimuli into easier language to read and understand it would look like:

Conclusion: You can be at home if you are in your backyard but not in your house.

Premise: For example, you can also be in your house but not at home if you rent your house to others. (If you're the landlord you could be in the house to do repair work, but you are not 'at home' because you don't live there)

Premise 2/Subconclusion: Therefore it is not sufficient to be in your house to be at home.

Translation of answer choice C: Claim is compatible with the truth or falsity of the conclusion = This is a premise/sub conclusion

I took the June LSAT and plan on retaking in November. I just recently got 7Sage, I am wondering if I should just go through all of the videos and then begin taking practice tests or should I be incorporating practice tests as I go through the videos?

Thank you!

Hi All,

I am currently in the process of reworking my resume to tailor it for law school. I am about to enter my final year of undergrad, and plan to apply this fall.

Just wondering about two main things:

What should we include on our resume about highschool? Just the school and the year? Honour roll/awards in graduating year? Any clubs? I was not planning on mentioning all clubs/extra curriculars, but I did found/participate in one club all the way through high school, so I am wondering if it is worth including.

Can we include items that are planned for the upcoming school year? For example, if I have already joined a club this summer and will be beginning to ramp up my involvement in the fall, should I write about my expected duties?

Thanks!

I just wanted to clarify when to use not both (F---->/C) vs a bi-conditional (F/C). My current understanding is that if the in/out game has only two categories, I should use the bi-conditional representation because it represents the only possibilities because the two variables, in this case "F&C", cannot be in or out together. Whereas I should use the not both representation when there are more more than two groups because while the variables do not have to be together, there are other categories that they will be able to go in.

PrepTest B - Section 1 - Question 11

We do not hold someone who has a heart attack while driving MR for the damage cause is the C and the claim that the choice of a diet can affect whether or not one has a heart attack it is used to support the C of the argument. The Correct AC is E

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For this question I am a little confused. In one of the videos, JY mentioned that a right answer for PSA questions should end at the same place that the principle does. In this question, the correct answer says that "Toril did not act responsibly." The conclusion of the stimulus is that one is acting responsibly. Is it possible for the right answer to have a different conclusion from the stimulus? Do other right answers work with contrapositives?

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone has advice to address a gap in my resume. I separated from the military in April but due to my husband also being active duty and us currently being stationed overseas I did not apply for any jobs. We were originally supposed to move back to the states in July which is the main reason why I didn't apply for jobs but his unit just extended our tour another year. I plan on applying for jobs not that we are staying longer but I will still have the gap. During those three months I focused on healing (I was medically separated) and studying for the LSAT. I plan on adding an addendum to my resume to explain the gap but I'm nervous it might affect my chances of getting into my school of choice. Any advice, or just some reassurance that the gap won't affect my chances too severely would be really helpful.

Just wondering if it is better to wait a day after taking a PT to begin the BR process. I usually begin that day after taking the test.

I understand that applicants with foreign undergraduate degrees do not fare well in admissions, but would an engineer with two years of experience in the US be a plus? I plan to apply to schools that rank from 70 to 100 (LSAT 150~160).

Wanted to see if anyone could share their thoughts / been in a similar position! I'm retaking the LSAT soon and wondering if I should also retake the writing portion. My first writing wasn't bad in terms of structure and argument but it ended abruptly because I ran out of time (was missing two words off the last sentence), and I was wondering if it would be worth it to redo the writing because of it in case it affects admissions.

Is this the correct way to think about this stimulus?

Support: B implies conscience and agency+ nations don't have consciences+ families are not agents

Intermediate Conclusion: Groups are not the type of entity that can be worthy of praise or blame.

Main conclusion: Hence, etc....

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After getting my score from the August LSAT today I'm totally at a loss. I took my first LSAT in June and scored a 157 which was not where I wanted to be. I then buckled down and studied harder for the August LSAT. I was averaging 163's right before the first go around of the test. I, along with most everyone had problems with my August LSAT. I choose to take it again and I truly felt that the test went well. I got my score back again today and I once again got a 157. I was really hoping to submit my applications as early as possible because I know that the earlier the better. Should I sacrifice this to take the test again? I am just worried that waiting until the end of October (when the October test score comes out) is going to be too long and hurt me in the long run of the admissions process. Please help I am very unsure of what to do at this point and the date to register for the October test closes tomorrow. I have a strong GPA (3.76) and good extra curriculars and I am not trying to make t14 or anything but I still want to get into the best schools that I can.

Many test companies advocate an active reading approach to RC. I think it's helpful. However, under timed conditions, it's generally difficult to juggle all the info packed into a RC passage. There's not much time to re-read the passage. So, you have to be able to "follow the logic" of the passage in one reading, then attack the questions. I have found this approach very helpful, and very time efficient.

Any indian students preparing for lsat(global)?

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My worst section is RC, my best is LG but it is still not perfect. I need to take far more practice tests to prepare for the October test, but does anyone have any tips to improve from a 158 to 160's in 6 weeks time?

Hello All!

I was hoping someone could help clarify a questions that I have.

I would like to apply to law school as early in the cycle as possible (not early admissions). I took the August LSAT and was hoping to use that score for apps but I don't think it was at the score range I would have liked granted all the technical issues. If I were to use my August score to apply but make a note that I am planning on retaking the test in January, would my applications still be counted as if I applied early in the cycle or as if I were applying in January since that is when the score would be updating?

Thank you!

All,

Please PM me if you are interested in joining a small October study group of Hawaii (where I am) and West Coast peeps with the intention of scoring 175+ (realistically). Tell me a bit about yourself.

I am a super splitter and would love to study with a few HIGHLY motivated fellow splitters with T3 to T14 aspirations.

GPA: 3.2

LSAT Diagnostic: 152 (with no studying)

Work Experience: 11 years (military officer)

Personally, my strength is RC (-8 cold-turkey diagnostic, almost everything right except what I ran out of time for). My LR was -10 (again, mainly due to time constraints), and my LG -15. I fully expect to be able to drill LG down to -0 or -1 (I'm rather good at puzzles and recognize that I am likely one of those people who will benefit GREATLY from fool-proofing games). LR I suspect I can get to -3 max and also -3 max on RC.

A note, while I expect to be able to eventually score 175+, I do not know that I will be able to do so in six months of studying, but hell, we might as well try, eh. I also have a LOT of free time to study.

A few notes on me and my aspirations:

I am an 11 year military officer and Service Academy graduate (I fully expect to receive a GPA boost from most schools that I apply to and also double majored and had VERY strong technical course grades, so may be less of a splitter than I appear (and am also 11 years removed from undergrad)); Service Academies have zero grade inflation, increased credit and technical course requirements, as well as military/athletic obligations on top of academic).

I am also LGBTQ+, agender (born female), have a kind of insane resume, volunteer experience, first four year college graduate in my family, D1 Varsity athlete, club President, first law school applicant in family, among other interesting obstacles. Essentially, I expect to have VERY strong essays and a strong resume.

My interest lies in International Human Rights (specializing in environmental and energy security) law.

At 175+ I expect to have realistic chances of getting into all T3 to T14 schools. At 179+, I also expect to have a fighting chance at YS (but still only in the 30th-ish percentile as far as chances are concerned).

I would love to study with some like-minded people.

Much Love,

Chuck

Hi,

Asking because there are 2 preptest questions that really confuse me regarding this phrase.

In PT80.S2.Q18, the correct answer is B, and the reason why people say that the answer here is not A is because passage A does not have "particular examples". Passage A discusses hypothetical examples (ie line 11-- "if you analyze a stock, decide it is overvalued..." and line 24--"someone selling a stock because..."). People say that these are not particular examples because they don't refer to a single real-life instance.

However, in PT25.S1.Q3, the correct answer is A, even though one of the two "specific examples" used in the passage is a hypothetical on line 15-- "does a government office, for example, have the right..." (the other "specific example" seems pretty specific-- line 32-- "recently, two employees of an automobile company...")

Unless "specific example" means something different from "particular example", I am really not sure how to resolve the paradox between these 2 questions' answer explanations.

Can anyone please explain this?

Thanks!

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Hello! So.. my worst case scenario came true. I took the January 2023 LSAT for the first time, did not do great, and cancelled my score. I took the LSAT for a second time in September and managed to score worse by TWO points than the Jan LSAT I cancelled. I am really stressing out about if I should cancel my score or keep it - only if it would really look that bad to T-14 schools to have two cancellations. For context, I am also registered for the October 2023 exam. My September score is MUCH lower than any of my target school averages, and so I want to cancel the score but don't know if there's any merit to avoiding having two cancellations on my record. The September test was a bit of a fluke for me as I panicked and really got in my head during the exam.

I appreciate anyone's help!

Prep Test 28 Section 1, #24

I am having a hell of a time trying to figure out whether the first or last sentence is the conclusion. The 1st and last sentences appear to be saying exactly the same thing, to only pay attention to intrinsic qualities of the artwork.

"What is really aesthetically relevant is not what a painting symbolizes, but what it directly presents to experience because we ought to pay attention only to the intrinsic properties of a work of art and its other, extrinsic properties are irrelevant to our aesthetic interactions with it" but...it sounds just as good to me the other way around so I'm stuck.

Could someone clear this up for me? Thanks.

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