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Hi everyone, I just found out that LSAC has plans to gradually remove the logic games section from the LSAT supposedly through 2023. Was just wondering if anyone knows whether this next testing cycle is going to contain the logic games section...

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I was looking for a group to join and I'm having a hard time finding one. I was hoping to make a group where we can help and support each other. I am taking the LSAT for the first time. I'm quite nervous and it would be helpful to be in a group with other people to help and study with! Please let me know ASAP if anyone is interested so we can get started!

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Hi there, I was wondering if I could get some advice. When I read the stimulus I usually read it out loud (like the instructor in the videos) to fully understand what the stimulus is saying and to better retain the information. Should I continue doing this as it works, or should I try to read the stimulus in my head. My fear is that I will be accused of cheating when reading the stimulus out loud.

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I'm looking to start a study/accountability/support group for the October and November 2022 LSATs! Please just leave a comment if you're interested and I'll start putting the group together.

EDIT: If you're interested in joining this group, please just direct message me your number and I'll send you the link to our GroupMe!

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Has anyone experienced drastic changes in their PTs? I've made good progress in breaking into the mid 160s, then dropped into the low 150s, broke into the 170, but my last score was a 153. BRs are consistently in the 170s. I've taken 6 PTs so far. It might just be a purely mental/emotional thing? A bad LG section definitely throws me off (which is what happened for my low scores), and I find it hard to recover in the next sections after LG. A bad LG section 1 would probably be my worst nightmare.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

#help please

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At the time of application my GPA for UG will be a 3.73. UT is my number one choice and they have a Median GPA of 3.8. With being significantly lower than the median is my gpa a splitter requiring a fairly high LSAT score?

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Hello everyone, I'm putting together a study group for the June/August 2022 exams!

I've personally scored a 172 on the official February exam, and now I'm shooting for 175+! People from all levels and scores are welcome though.

I am thinking of going through a PT a weeek, and reviewing it together. We could of course do more than that, for example, individual sections and more.

I want to have a server with a sense of community, where it isn't just about doing that one PT a week. We will also have channels for help in different sections of the LSAT, and for just chatting. I personally enjoy explaining things to others, which helps me solidify my own understanding.

As mentioned in the title, a good friend of mine, who is a tutor with an official 178 will be on the server. He'll be available for advice and to answer LSAT questions.

Drop a comment if you're interested, and I'll send you the invite link!!

Edit: Wow this got a lot more attention than I expected! Thanks a lot to everyone who joined or showed interest! We're now at 75 people, and the server is full. More than 75 would have been an unmanageable number, since we want to meet every week (though probably not everyone will participate). My apologies to anyone who wanted to join, but couldn't. We'll invite more people after the June test, since many will leave after that. Thanks again everyone, and I wish you the very best in your LSAT journey!

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So I just learned you can use ctrl F on the LSAT reading comp. What are the best ways to utilize this to maximize speed during the test? any tips pertaining CTL+F are appreciated. Are there any other tools like CTRL+F that are permissible during the exam that may help?

ALSO: Has anyone had issues with a proctor who was not aware ctrl+F was permissible?

Thanks guys

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Anyone have advice on determining when a flaw question has jumped from a correlation to a cause and effect argument? Each flaw question I do with correlation and causation in the mix, I never can identify when the AC is 'infers cause from mere correlation'. Any help is appreciated! :)

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I am signed up to take the June LSAT and I am behind on my course. I am currently 77% of the way through the CC meaning that I have 50 hours left to finish it. I have not done any PT's since my diagnostic. I have about a month until my test. Do I push through the 50 hours of CC or do I jump into PT's and do that for the next month?

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Hi everyone, I've been really overthinking this the past couple of months and decided to come on here for advice.

I took the January LSAT this year and got a 164. In community college I received a 3.9 GPA, transferred to UC Berkeley, and got a 4.0 GPA there. I really want to get into a T-14 (actually want to go back to Berkeley or get into Stanford/UCLA), I know my GPA is in pretty good standing but my LSAT score is on the lower side.

After taking the January LSAT, I registered for the June LSAT with the intention of getting above a 170.

That being said, I'm feeling really burned out after studying for a year while working a full-time job. I am still scoring in the mid 160s (but also BRing in the mid to high 170s). I've seen some suggestions on here to treat the LSAT as a full-time job and take a break from working, but my income right now is supporting two other ppl in my family so that's not an option for me at the moment :/ I think the burnout I feel is not just because of the LSAT but because of familial obligations, getting as much OT I can at work, etc.

Anyways! I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for me? Here are my options as I see it:

  • I push back the LSAT to August and push really hard to PT at the 170s range beforehand.

  • Say "f it" and take the June LSAT and hope for a 170+ score.

  • Apply to T-14s with what I have now and hope for the best (scholarship money is a big factor for me but maybe I'll just take the L on being in debt for some years idk).

    • Thanks everyone! I'll really appreciate anyone who takes the time to respond to this.

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    So, I just got done with the June 2007 Prep Test, early in the course and received the lowest score I have ever gotten on any LSAT test. Anyone else have this happen? Kind of discouraging and am just trying to figure it out

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    Hi everyone, I've been rolling around in this question for a very long time and still have some fundamental questions so would be great if someone can confirm my thinking/help answer those questions. Thanks in advance!

    Stimulus breakdown:

    P: The robots that are being designed are the ones that can be maintained with the least expensive, least skilled human labor possible

    C: So robots won't eliminate demeaning work, they're just gonna basically substitute one "demeaning job" for another

    In more human terms, the argument is saying that if there are 100 people assembling car parts in a factory (assuming that we call that a demeaning job), then the addition of robots will basically take those 100 jobs and turn it into 100 jobs of monitoring the robots (which they also assume is a demeaning job).

    My question: It seems like this question makes us assume that "hazardous and demeaning work" is the same as "least expensive, least skilled human labor." Is this a flaw or is this something we could be allowed to assume?

    Answer Choices:

    A) Using 2-step test, this does happen in that he ignores that some jobs might be eliminated if the factories don't use robots. But this is not the flaw because even if he did consider that, it doesn't hit on the conclusion that robots are really just substituting and not reducing the net # of demeaning jobs

    B) Not descriptively accurate, so fails step 1

    C) Descriptively accurate - he doesn't specify what the engineers think but fails step 2 because that's not an issue. Even if he hits on the sentiments of the engineer, it doesn't weaken his argument that the robots are just subbing demeaning jobs and not even decreasing the net #

    D) Not descriptively accurate - there's not any fear that's happening here

    E) Descriptively accurate and if he did acknowledge that it's possible that 1 robot could replace the 100 shitty jobs in the care factory with just 1, then his conclusion that "robots will not eliminate demeaning work" no longer holds.

    My question here is though, is it okay that a weakening answer basically completely destroys the argument? I know we can't attack the premise but not sure where that stands for the conclusion/broader argument.

    #help

    Admin Note: Edited the title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of question"

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    I’m having a really difficult time with LR. Is there an approach that works for you when taking the test under timed conditions? For instance, MBT means do this; MSS means look for this. Sort of a guide or plan of action for each type of question.

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