Which live classes are best to attend? Just beginner ones? Do I drill? I've read others say to hold off on significant drilling until you finish CC.

I first attempted this behemoth in 2017 right after undergrad. In hindsight, I was not ready. I tried again in 2024 but mistakingly applied and got denied from one law school. For my third attempt, I am implementing new strategies such as 7Sage and will be applying to 7 law schools. Be Patient with yourself & always try again.

I have been grinding the LSAT for so long. It has been two years of 3-5 month intervals of studying for the actual test. Currently, my highest score on the actual test has been a 160, which really angers me because I did great on the 1st section (LR), second section (RC), third section (LR), and then AWFUL on the fourth section (RC). Of course, the second section was experimental. This was in January of this year (I believe), I decided to apply to LSU (where I reside), and A&M (my dream school) with a 160 and 3.92 GPA. Of course I didn't get into A&M because the median is a 168, however I did get into LSU. I decided to not attend LSU after graduation though because I wanted one more chance at getting into A&M. So, since March I have been studying the LSAT once again. I was getting a 161-164 on PT but my issues resided in the Reading Sections. I would miss 0-3 questions on each LR but miss 9-12 on Reading. Because of this, I decided to GRIND and LEARN the Reading Section. After 2 months, I had made little progress, missing roughly 6-9 on each RC section. Finally, I decided to get a tutor, specifically for the Reading Section. It worked! Well kind of, his teachings were decent but the most important contribution he taught me was to STOP CARING. I hadn't been realizing before getting a tutor that I would try to add in extra details through outside knowledge / contribute to the text random things and assumptions so that the passage would make more sense, the passage would feel WHOLE. He made me stop this. He insisted that I stop caring about understanding the passage, and instead focused on the concrete words that they gave me. This helped me tremendously. My following PT (3 weeks ago), I scored a 168, missing four on the RC. Then last week, I scored a 167, missing four on the RC. Due to the increased attention on RC and diminished focus on LR, I have been missing 2-5 on LR. I have started to balance each category in the previous days to seek my upmost potential. The reason I am writing this is because today I am stressed out. I decided to look up the stats on A&M and I basically HAVE to reach a 170 now in order to be accepted. I am now very stressed because my test is in August and I plan on applying by October for the greatest chances. It makes me so angry knowing that I have to be a top 5% test taker in order to get into a top 30 law school. I understand that law schools are proportional in rankings with lsat medians, but like, WHY do they make it so hard. I am angry because I can blind review exams and make a 179 easily, also I can drill all day long and get 95% of the questions correct and then explain why an answer is correct and not correct. All of this forced studying that I have been doing for two years just to make it into my dream school and i'm scared that I won't get in, or worse, that I won't get a score that accurately reflects my knowledge of the LSAT. Sorry for being such a downer right now. I was using this forum as my own journal, I guess. Will probably make a copy of this for the therapist after test day. Good luck all!!!

What is a Sufficient Condition?

What is a necessary condition?

how do I know which is which in context?

I'm not sure if it's no longer a feature on the new website, but how do I access the video lessons of the core curriculum? It's easier for me to listen to it as if it's a lecture than just read it all on my screen.

I am not sure how and when to drill. Do I drill after each section? If so, how do I know which types of questions to do? I’m still on foundations and haven’t started LR yet, FYI.

Hello, I am currently scoring around 133 and need help O:

If yall are down to study together my discord is estv360

I would like to take one timed LR section (~25 questions in 35 minutes). Do I just take one section from one of the full PTs or create a drill set? Is there another way of doing this I am missing?

Also: While taking a PT, how do I flag questions I want to review in BR?

Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone who qualified for a fee waiver here and through LSAC has been told that their fee waiver will not transfer to the new site and that they will have to reapply and reenroll in the fee waiver program in order to use the new site at a reduced rate? I have the fee waiver and as a low income, 1st gen applicant it has been a life saver, I have already spent thousands on study for this exam and 7 sage's fee waiver + recycled test prep books allowed me to spend time more time studying and less time worry about how to afford to do it!

I emailed an admin to see about getting onto the new site and was told "We've made a few changes to our fee waiver program. While there isn't a way to directly transfer your fee waiver access to the new site, I'd be glad to help you re-enroll." the admin then said that the reduced cost would be higher than the previous waiver program. I find it a bit unethical that 7 sage would change their policy on the waiver programs mid subscription for those who already have it, its like we have to choose between keeping our waiver or having an enhanced learning experience with the new site... the issue isn't the money here because it is still reduced but again, applying to law school is extremely expensive, waivers exist so as to not bar people who can't afford it from trying to apply. Everyone situation is different and these are extremely challenging times, making this sort of change mid year, mid subscription feels really unfair and inconsiderate.

Has anyone had a different experience with this or can someone direct me to an admin I can speak to about this more? mostly just venting here but really disappointed in 7 sage rn and wondering if I should continue elsewhere

Is the difference between the two that one has "if true" and the other doesn't?

Hi All, I'm stuck in a mid-160s plateau with a goal of breaking into the 170s. If you're in the same boat and want to meet remotely maybe once per week to work through some 4 and 5 star questions that were particularly hard for you, comment and I'll dm to get a study group started. Personally, I'm hoping to get better at pattern recognition in answer choices and fully understanding why a wrong answer is wrong. Thanks!

Hey! I'm applying for testing accommodations and would love to connect with others in the same boat to share experiences and support one another. Accessibility ftw!

Hey! I’m looking to start a study group — we can meet online or in person in the Orlando area. Let me know if you’re interested! We got this :)

i have been blind reviewing at 162 but averaging around 153 for my actual exam, I'm honestly super discouraged, because I know I can do better in the 'real' test but the time conditions feel so heavy. I'm suppose to take my test in august before my senior year starts, and since I'm aiming for 2026 law school my applications need to be in relatively soon. if anyone has any advice or encouragement I'd be very grateful. Im not giving up, I just need some more hope.

I created a discord for people interested in teaming up and tackling some problems together on the east coast. https://discord.gg/gx9dNnYx

Taking test in August. At this point, taking a prep test every week. I want to take the ones that are most accurate to test day. Are these the most recent ones? in the 150s range?

Hey yall, just subscribed to 7sage. I wanted to do a practise section with a show answer option to warm up, but this function is unavailable. I understand that this is because of the emphasis on the blind review model which i think will be beneficial. I havent been able to find a proper explanation of how blind review works on this site tho. where might I find an explanation? are you able to do blind review for practise sections or just full tests? is there an option to toggle it? how does BR work? does it automatically take you to a blind review part following the section?

Hi, I am currently testing at about 154, and wondering if there are any people who want to form a study group. Meet up location would be anywhere from River North Area to Pilsen area.

Looking to either start or join a study group. I'm in the STL area, but am open to an online group as well. Feel free to drop a comment if you're interested or point me in the right direction if there's already something similar to what I'm looking for!

I keep having this issue where my energy and focus plummet after around the 2nd section of a practice test. How can I keep energized and focused while taking PTs?

Hi Everyone,

Would someone be so kind to advise what best worked for them on studying for the LSATs, I wrote the test once and did not like my score therefore I’m going to be rewriting the LSATs

The question below made me confused because I thought the conditional statement "the painters must have needed to eat the sea animals populating the waters north of Norway if they were to make the long journey to and from the islands" was a fact because there is a Sufficent Condition that triggers a Necessary Condition there for it must be true. So when I learned A was wrong, I was confused because the conditional statement created a "rule." So, I need help. How do you disprove a conditional?

THE QUESTION:

Recently discovered prehistoric rock paintings on small islands off the northern coast of Norway have archaeologists puzzled. The predominant theory about northern cave paintings was that they were largely a description of the current diets of the painters. This theory cannot be right, because the painters must have needed to eat the sea animals populating the waters north of Norway if they were to make the long journey to and from the islands, and there are no paintings that unambiguously depict such creatures.

Each of the following, if true, weakens the argument against the predominant theory about northern cave paintings EXCEPT:

A. Once on these islands, the cave painters hunted and ate land animals.

B. Parts of the cave paintings on the islands did not survive the centuries.

C. The cave paintings that were discovered on the islands depicted many land animals.

D. Those who did the cave paintings that were discovered on the islands had unusually advanced techniques of preserving meats.

E. The cave paintings on the islands were done by the original inhabitants of the islands who ate the meat of land animals

Salespeople always steer customers toward products from which they make their highest commissions, and all salespeople in major health stores work on commission. Hence, when you buy vitamin supplements in a major health store, you can be sure that the claims the salespeople make about the quality of the products are inaccurate.

Obviously this is an ad hominem. I know that. But we are taught to apply a two step test: descriptively accurate and does it describe the flaw.

the right answer choice?

infers that some claims are inaccurate solely on the basis of the source of those claims

translation: 1-99 of claims are inaccurate, solely on the basis of the source of those claims.

how is this descriptively accurate? the argument assumes because sales people have specific incentives, salespeople are not telling the full truth.

the argument never says SOME claims are inaccurate, instead it says THE CLAIMS ARE INACCURATE. how the hell am I supposed to see the invisible some? Also the argument never says they are liars because they are sales people, it says it's because they work on commission.

someone tell me how I am wrong. I feel like im getting punished for being detail oriented.

Hi everyone! I’m looking for an accountability study group to meet either online or in-person. I usually study in the afternoons/evenings after 2pm. I plan on taking the test in August and September. Feel free to reach out 😄

I've been making my way through the syllabus but not quite sure how much I should be extending my study outside the questions and focused drills. Should I be aiming for a PT once a week and focusing my efforts especially on the question types I know? Should I just be taking drills with the questions types I've covered? What has been a good strategy for other people?