Has anyone done this PT and have insight into how to solve this question? I understand why B is correct (the stimulus says that lemurs, which are lower primates, are the only primates indigenous to Madagascar), but I'm not sure why you cannot also infer A. The only living diurnal lower primates are certain species of lemurs, and higher primates evolved from a diurnal species of lower primate. Therefore, chimpanzee's, which are higher primates, evolved from lemurs.

WAIT, I get it. If the stimulus said that the only diurnal lower primates (DLP) EVER were lemurs, then A would be correct. But, it actually says the only living DLPs are lemurs. Therefore, there could have been some other DLP in the past that was not a lemur from which chimpanzees evolved. So we cannot properly infer A!

Posting in case anyone else needs an explanation because there are no official ones yet for this PT. Classic LSAT with the sneaky wording.

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I have a random question LMAO! If in a grouping logic game the rule is: if W then T or F

does that mean that if I have T or F in the yes/in group, I must have W as well

or can I have T or F without the W

I just finished my test and I am extremely upset and disappointed. The first half of the exam went well and I had no issues at all. However, after the 10 minute intermission I continuously got a message saying that the page was unresponsive (by continuously I mean several times within the minute). So basically, the whole second half of the test I lost a lot of my time and was distracted. I'm still hoping I somehow do good but the experience was horrible and if I had to test again I would wait to test in person. Has anyone had a similar experience?

Got 161 in August, tried again with this one in November and bombed hard (will see if I can appeal the tech issues like everyone else)

I don't think I have what it takes anymore after two years of studying.

I know I shouldn't be angry at a 80th percentile score, considering Hispanics get below 150, (don't wanna even imagine Autists or DACA recipients)

I just wanna say I'm glad for everyone who helped me when I asked hundreds of questions!

Apologies if you see me upset with how emotional I really felt about this. ASD people can get severe emotional reaction and for me getting wrong questions was really bad for me. I just got upset that I didn't get my goal of 163 to get the medium for UF in fear that this will lower my chances (161, URM, 3.47 CAS GPA)

Anyways, on my way to do ED for University of FL lol

Took the LSAT yesterday. After my 10 minute break it took an additional 20 minutes for me to connect with a proctor and re-enter the test. I was terrified that something had gone wrong (I sent them a message every few minutes with zero response), but everything was smooth afterwards.

Just wanted to let test takers know that this is a possibility to be prepared for!

Hello 7Sagers,

For those who have already tested, I hope you crushed!!

For those testing tomorrow and Sunday, a word of advice:

Have this page readily available in case your proctor is unaware of LSAC policy:

https://www.lsac.org/about/lsac-policies/lsac-candidate-agreement

My proctor disallowed my water bottle even though it met the specified requirements. Thankfully I had another one available that he deemed OK so I didn't have to get into it with him -- but looking back on it (hindsight's 20/20 of course), it would have been better to just show him the policy straight from LSAC and end the matter right there.

So this is not a bash on the proctor or anything -- they proctor a range of tests so it's completely understandable that they don't know every single LSAC rule -- but just a reminder to (politely) show them the reference if you have to and carry on smartly.

Hope this helps!

Hi all

I worked through the 7sage curriculum and saw a pretty huge score increase (143 diagnostic up to a high of 159, averaging high 150's now). Logical Reasoning is definitely my 'weak' point, especially factoring in there being two LR sections. I want to leave time to just do practice tests leading up to the exam. My question is, having done the LR portion of the curriculum in the summer, and starting out completely unfamiliar with the test, should I just go through the 7sage LR lessons again, or should I try out the Loophole? I really only have time for one.

Hey guys! I'm taking the test tomorrow and I'm quite excited to take it (believe it or not). What are some ways to maintain positive energy levels and motivation going into the test and during? For me what has worked the most is quick meditation early in the morning and treating the test like four section tests instead of viewing it as a daunting 3-hour exam. The first time I took the exam I was blindsided by the order of the first section and that feeling lingered onto the remaining sections. NEVER AGAIN!

I'm going to do a few drills today and watch a movie and rest the remainder of the day.

Sending everyone taking the November test positive energy and manifesting that we all reach our goal scores! All the best :)

Hi All,

I had the chance to do an LR question again for a recent tutoring session and noticed a few things that could be helpful for your prep. One question I find a lot of students asking me is, "What do I do if I don't see the flaw?" Let's use this FLAW question as a model for possible approaches. (Try doing it on your own if you haven't. The answer is below)

PT 59 S3 20:

P: the lightest moths with the greatest contrast were most likely to be eaten

C: therefore, the darkest moths were least likely to be eaten

At first glance, the argument looks solid. If you're like me and don't know much about moths, you probably thought, "ok yeah of course dark moths would be more likely to survive than light moths...what's the issue? obviously, there's something I'm missing here."

It'd be great if you can immediately diagnose the flaw (authors assumes a false dichotomy). But what do you do if you can't see the flaw? You gotta find ways to finesse!

Let me suggest how:

(1) Start with the big picture: Focus on improving your comprehension of the argument by simplifying it into your own words. The battle is always won in the stimulus, and an argument is always a conclusion being supported by premises. Make sure you get to the core of it.

(2) Zoom in on the details: Next, look to the descriptor words and consider what is being compared to get your clues. At least for this particular question, ​the author is comparing the Darkest/Lightest moths, with the Greatest contrast, and arguing which among them is Most/Least likely to be eaten.

These words indicate extremes--colors and probabilities. Hmm...if there is a darkest/lightest, then there has to be varying degrees of color in between, right?" HA I see it now! Before, I assumed that there was a dichotomy between ​dark vs light moths. Now I realize, oh! there has to be a spectrum between the darkest to lightest! There must to be moths of varying degrees of darkness and lightness in between. Perhaps grey shaded moths have higher rates of survival! Got it.

And that's why D is the answer.

How did we get here? We started with the big picture, zoomed in to the details, and focused on the most relevant parts of the argument to improve our comprehension, then found clues that led us to the flaw.

I hope this helps you find new steps to take next time you're stuck wondering what to do next!

Hey guys! I had a hard time with October because I was too tired to finish the test. How should I build enough stamina to do the whole test? Any tips?

Thanks!

I am taking the test for the first time tomorrow at 2:40 and I'm not sure if I should take PT92+ just to have one more under my belt. Thoughts? Pros and Cons? Thank you all!! And good luck if you're taking November!

Hi Y'all, the title says it all. Where do I go from here? I thoroughly did my BR so I know my theoretical maximum is a 166. I'm curious as to how other folks use data from a PT and plan their week studying. Some takeaways I have so far:

Anyway, any advice you have on how to use this data will be really appreciated.

Trying to find a bunch of posts that I've "liked" so that I can go back and read them fully, but i'm having a hard time finding them.

Anyone have any idea how/where I can search for this?

I'm doing well enough on answering the questions, understanding the passages...but for the love of God I am struggling to get to the 4th passage and it's killing my scores. Tips? Tricks? Helpful videos?

I've read through the comments and still don't really quite get it. Yes, I see people referencing to https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/why-is-or-so-confusing/, but that lesson barely touches on the nuances of "than either ... or" in a comparative context. Quite a few posters made inquiries on this, but there wasn't really any explanation given.

Other than just taking this particular usage as axiomatic truth and accept that "than either ... or" in a comparative context (e.g. the parmigiano cheese is more expensive than either the cheddar cheese or the provolone cheese) necessarily means "and", how else can I digest all this? I'm curious, b/c the inference gleaned from that one stylistic choice has a big effect on the game (probably shaving at least 2 minutes for a particular question, if not helping to resolve the game board significantly).

I should also mention that had the phrasing been along the lines of "more expensive than either of the other two cheeses" (as opposed to "better than either the cheddar or the provolone"), that would have also removed the ambiguity.

Thanks in advance

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For those who took PT91 as a PT, what did you think of the test? Easier, difficult? Would like to see what others think.

What do you all do for a last-minute revision for LSAT RC?

I'm currently focusing on RC and get about 8 to 10 wrong. I'm not sure what is the right way to review your wrong answers? Usually I'll just re-read the question and look at the right answer and say "oh, that makes sense". But I know that's not good enough. Any tips?

Can anyone help me in understanding why D is a better option than C? I was stuck between the two on the actual test.

Thank you so much!

So the biological species concept is used by "lumpers," or people who like to group similar but different species together into one species, and is the idea that if there is no SIGNIFICANT interbreeding among members of different groups in the wild, then they should be considered distinct, or different, species because they are reproductively isolated.

How do I differentiate between B and D? Both talk about interbreeding among members of a species...if members of two different populations do interbreed, what would a lumper do? Would he stuff them together? Is that why D is correct? But D doesn’t mention whether the populations are wild or not. In terms of question type would this be comparable to a mss question?

Hi Everyone,

I'm taking the LSAT at a hotel because the wifi at my house is kind of spotty. I was wondering if I can have the TV in the room or if I should call the front desk to have it removed. Also trying to pick a spot in the room where I am going to take the test so anything else that might be relevant in terms of what I can / can not have near me or in the room. Thank you!

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Does anyone have any tricks for getting this one correct with zero understanding of science? I skipped it and honestly would happily skip it again on the actual LSAT. I'm probably distracted by the science jargon but didn't want to waste time parsing it out. Is there a cookie cutter format under the jargon that I missed?

If anyone could give a breakdown for these two questions, it would help a lot! For #13, I was able to narrow it down to A and B but don't understand what makes B correct and A incorrect and I'm at a complete loss for Q22.

For 13, I picked A because the passage presented markets as this self correcting thing. It showed how inside information seemed to just spread amongst investors and so I thought the situation in the question stem matched that as well.

As for 14, I thought thermometer matched because the markets according to passage B just gauges majority opinion of investors but why does thermostat match passage A? And what is the difference between a typewriter and a word processor?

For 22, I picked A thinking if it were difficult for international agreements to be put in place to protect endangered species, wouldn't that mean more species would bring about more endangered ones? E just doesn't make sense as an answer to me but it's correct so...

Is the first sentence the conclusion?

And what is the "contrast'' mentioned in the answer choices? Is it between modern and ancient languages?

Could someone who got the question correct help please?