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Hey all. Been at the test for a bit. Pretty much used up PTs 39-90. Scoring in the 170s and looking for a study partner(s) in a similar boat. Thinking maybe we can just meet 2-3 times per week and talk through any problems that are tripping us up. Thanks!

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Hey! I'm looking for a consistent study partner or small group for the November LSAT. I've written twice so I'm hoping to work on weak spots especially when it comes to RC and LR and get upwards of 165. I'd want to meet a couple times a week and my timezone is EDT. Let me know if you're interested!

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Hi Everyone,

I wrote the August LSAT and scored a 149. I realize I need to improve my score by about 8 points to receive consideration for admission at the schools I am looking at.

I am currently registered for the October LSAT but I am thinking that delaying until the November LSAT may provide me more to time to prepare as I am a full time university student.

I was hoping to ask, is a November LSAT too late for admissions when I am applying to schools with a December 1st admissions deadline? Or would I just apply and then have my LSAT score come in once it is finalized?

Thank you for your time!

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Hi all,

After receiving my August score I am less than satisfied. I scored mid 160's after PTing 169-171 consistently so I am looking for a month long study partner who will help me grind and get my score up before October. If anyone is in the same position please let me know!

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Hey Ya'll,

I just got my August LSAT score back, and because I am a first time test taker, I have the preview/cancel option. Objectively, I don't have a bad score (low 160's), but have been consistently PT'ing 3-5 points higher. I'm already registered to retake November, and know I will do better (the score I received on test day is the lowest score I've received in months of PTing). I'm hoping to apply as soon as my November LSAT comes out.

Does anyone have any wisdom as to whether or not I should cancel my score?

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Hi! Im PTing ranging from 165-170, but on the August exam I scored a 164. I feel like there's something im missing to push me from the mid 160s to low 170s. I would really like some advice and tips. I don't know what else to try or do anymore. Im taking it again in October and that will be my last chance before I want to apply.

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Finally, I think I'm done with the test. It took almost 2 years of preparation working a full time engineering job.

First take was in Oct 2020, which ended up with a dismal 156. That was mostly self studying with 7sage.

Second take scores, just out... 173.

I went though 4 different tutors to get the right tutor who fit with my time, style and budget. Surprisingly he was only $50 an hour. I did sessions with him for 2 hours / week , Feb - Aug 2021. He used 7sage and lsatlab to monitor progress.

I guess that effort payed off. 173 is more that what I typically PT. I'm happy with the score. Thanks 7sage.

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I just wanted to say thank you JY, and also the 7sage community at large. Everyone is always so eager to answer questions and advice posts with the most thoughtful responses. After getting a score that I am happy with, I am so relieved that I am finally done with this test!

Nothing I did to study was any different from the advice that is dished out through out the forum (fundamentals, drilling, PTs, BR and review) BUT one sorta different thing was that I didn’t study THAT much per day: unless it was a PT day, I would usually max out at 2 hours; (I started studying in January)I read fiction in my free time, not the Economist; I also took a break from studying after the June Test until mid July and studied sporadically until August rolled around. I know everyone has different schedules, but I would always feel like I wasn’t studying enough, and then this leads to imposter syndrome when you’re trying to take the exam and so forth… So, if you find yourself doubting your abilities, that you’re not studying “enough”, just know that you don’t have to study 6+ hours a day to still walk away with a decent score (and yes a 169/170 are decent scores contrary to what Reddit will have you believe) Anyways, I hope this may be affirming for anyone who finds themselves doubting their study habits and routine. At the end of the day, it’s a standardized test and you don’t have to get everything right, just enough right.

Good luck October+ test takers and peace out 7sage, it’s been a not-so-fun, fun 8 months 😆

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I just got my August score back and it's a 164 which is one point above my goal score of 163. I truly could not have achieved this without using 7sage for the past ~8 months~ since the test did not come naturally (at all) to me. I particularly struggled with Logic Games, and I was never able to get my timing down enough to complete all 4 games despite months and months of practice, but thanks to 7Sage I was able to vastly improve from my starting point of taking 30 mins+ per game and perform well enough on the other sections to take pressure away from LG and still accurately complete 3/4 games. Good luck to everyone else gearing up for October and congrats to those who are ready to apply for this cycle :)

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My average pretest score is 166. Pretest scores have been fairly consistent (165-169).

I've taken the LSAT twice now. First score 157, today's score 156. Are other people seeing a practice test discrepancy like this? So frustrating. I deleted the 157, as it was my first attempt and significantly lower than my practice test scores. But today's score is lower.

Is anyone else seeing a discrepancy like this?

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Dear friends,

I want to provide hope to others starting with scores in the 140s. This has been said often, and I want to repeat it here because it is true:

You. Can. Beat. This. Test.

I won't go into my full journey, but a bit about me:

  • I'm a woman from a very poor rural background and am first gen.

  • I graduated from university about 4-7 years ago and have done full-time white collar work since.

  • I studied for this exam sporadically and collectively for more than a year, largely in the mornings before work.

  • I took the LSAT multiple times.

    • Potentially helpful thoughts and advice:

  • If you're struggling to decide whether you should keep studying, ask yourself this: Is there something CONCRETE that I know I can improve upon? If so, keep going and drilling if you have the resources to do so (As a side note, I have areas I know I could improve upon still to get an even better score. On the most recent test day, I fell into an old bad habit that I thought I eliminated with practice. If I weren't so exhausted from studying and working... I might even try a fourth time to get into the 175+ range).

  • Logic Games: Do all of the sections available to you over and over again until you perfect them under 35-minute timed conditions. Watch the 7Sage videos. Figure out what ends up being a time suck for you and nix it. But keep doing them until you can do them all without missing a single question.

  • Logical Reasoning: Truly understand the connection between a premise and a conclusion. Watch videos on logic. No need to read anything in-depth about formal logic, as the basic ideas are relatively simple.

  • Reading Comprehension 1: Briefly summarize each paragraph in your head as you read, then re-summarize the whole passage in your head before moving onto questions. This solidifies the content and arguments and helps you quickly answer questions.

  • Reading Comprehension 2: You must be able to read difficult material, and I might even argue... enjoy reading difficult material. Both of these habits can be built, but it takes time. Start somewhere. Start with the New York Times arts section or maybe an opinion section from a respected, world-renowned media outlet (think: Economist, NYT, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Atlantic, New Yorker, etc). Anything you could see yourself potentially enjoying. I took my first LSAT right after graduating college, and though I've always enjoyed reading since I was young (largely YA fiction and the like in middle and high school), since college I have slowly developed a deep enjoyment for the classics, philosophy, and modern literature. I also spend a ridiculous amount of time reading the news in the mornings, largely NYT and the Economist. I think my RC gains came from drastically improved reading skills in recent years.

  • Your average practice test score is almost certainly going to be the score you get on test day. Some get lucky and get an easy test that plays to their strengths, some get unlucky the other way. But the test is relatively consistent. Don't take the test unless you're at your target score.

  • 7Sage's content, methods, and discussion forum are blessings.

    • Good luck to all!

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    Hi 7Sagers,

    First of all, congratulations to all who received their target score from the August administration today.

    I'll be the first to admit that I am not in that category. On various forums and social media accounts, I've seen a number of folks describing a phenomenon that is similar to my experience, so I wanted to relate that information here to see if others have encountered it as well.

    I started studying about one year ago, using a combination of 7Sage, LSAT Trainer, and more recently, the Loophole. My first ever diagnostic was 150, but by the end of the study year (August), I was consistently scoring in the mid-to-upper 160s, even on the most recent practice tests. My last ten PTs ranged between 164-168, with the more recent exams being closer to the 168 mark. During the actual administration, I felt fairly clear-minded and confident. I know now that my first section was experimental, and I felt that the sections actually played to my strengths fairly well.

    So, I was pretty devastated to get a score this morning in the mid-150s. Basically, my PT average had dropped by ~10 points, and I'm pretty shattered. However, I'm also surprised to see so many others sharing a similar experience on various threads. Because this exam is undisclosed, it's really hard to gains specific insights into where things went so awry.

    So here's my question - and I promise it's not bitter blood - but rather a recognition that others have recounted a similar experience during this administration: could the LSAC have overcorrected the curve for the past August administration?

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    I understand why the correct answer choice is correct because if robots were the only things going out to space, then why do we need to know anything about human limits but I don't understand why B is incorrect. Isn't the stimulus making the assumption that astronauts share these human limitations? Am I reading this wrong?

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    There seems to be a massive uproar on Reddit about this. I'm sure it happens every test but this one just feels odd to me.

    I did much, much worse than my last LSAT and am completely devastated. Months of hard work and money have gone into this exam with nothing to show for it other than a worse official score.

    I just hate how much of this exam makes a difference for law school admissions. After today, I feel like it's time to give up on those law school dreams.

    Am I the only one who feels like this?

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    I took the August LSAT at scored a 165. My average PT was around a 167/168, so I feel a little let down because I know that I can do better. After august, I have continued to study and have been doing even better, with most of my PT scores being 170+. If I take the test in October and somehow to worse than I did in the August, how does that work? Will schools still look at my highest score? Or will they just see that my score went down and hold that against me?

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    Hola 7Sagers:

    While anxiously anticipating my August LSAT score, I checked my LSAC account and noticed that the percentile of my May score shifted downwards significantly. Initially, LSAC considered my 163 to be in the 86th percentile. As of now, it declined to the 83rd. Prior to the insanity of 2020, a 163 was considered to be in the 87.84th percentile, per the 7Sage percentile chart.

    TLDR: A 163 went from being in the ~87th percentile to being in the ~83rd. That isn't insignificant.

    I was hoping people could share their scores and percentiles on this thread, especially since law schools and LSAC are slow to update their new medians and score data, respectively. This would help us determine where we are in relation to our peers and inform our decisions regarding whether to retake the exam at a later date.

    Muchas gracias!

    Admin Note:

    Hey everyone,

    We're trying to figure out what the most recent percentile conversion is so if you took the August LSAT, please email your official LSAT score to studentservice@7sage.com. Here's what we have so far:

    180 - 99th (confirmed)

    179 - 99th (confirmed)

    178 - 99th (confirmed)

    177 - 99th (confirmed)

    176 - 99th (confirmed)

    175 - 99th (confirmed)

    174 - 99th (confirmed)

    173 - 98th (confirmed)

    172 - 98th (confirmed)

    171 - 97th (confirmed)

    170 - 96th (confirmed)

    169 - 95th (confirmed)

    168 - 94th (confirmed)

    167 - 93rd (confirmed)

    166 - 91st (confirmed)

    165 - 896h (confirmed)

    164 - 87th (confirmed)

    163 - 84th (confirmed)

    162 - 82nd (confirmed)

    161 - 79th (confirmed)

    160 - 76th (confirmed)

    159 - 73rd (confirmed)

    158 - 69th (confirmed)

    157 -

    156 - 62nd (confirmed)

    155 - 59th (confirmed)

    154 - 55th (confirmed)

    153 - 51st (confirmed)

    152 -

    151 -

    150 -

    149 - 36th (confirmed)

    148 - 33rd (confirmed)

    147 -

    146 -

    145 -

    144 -

    143 -

    142 -

    141 - 13th (confirmed)

    140 -

    Thank you!

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    Disappointed with score from Aug test, scored 10 points lower than PT average and depleted all recent PTs from 60-89. Just for some context: my cumulation upga is 3.7 (poli sci & econ double majors) from a liberal arts school and am currently getting a master's in ed policy from a top school and have 4 years of professional experience in international development, law, research work. I am trying to apply to t-14 schools. Would you recommend cancelling this score through the score preview option for first time test takers? Also went through a lot of life-altering events in the past couples of months - death and divorce in the family and minimal support system+ mental health issues so I am happy to be able to take the test for the first time amidst all that. Not complaining about getting a 162, I started with a 142 and English is my third language, so I made progress. Just trying to figure out what next possible steps should be if I am trying to apply to t-14 schools. I want to do international human rights law so schools with international recognition and good human rights law clinics are important for me. I am lost, also sad, so any recommendations from the amazing community here is appreciated.

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    Hey guys!

    I currently have a small GroupMe going with around 8 other people (mostly high 160s-170 scorers). Right now most of us are taking 1-2 PT's a week to prepare for the October LSAT. If anyone is interested in doing group Blind Review's of the RC/LR sections for those tests, please feel free to join the groupme link I've posted below! Preferably it would be most helpful for other somewhat mid 160+ scorers (as for the sake of time we are matching answers and really going into depth on the harder questions we find)! My personal average is around 170 - but ranging anywhere from 165 (lowest) -179 (highest) on the last 9 PT's I've taken!

    Note: We are mostly taking PT's in the 70s-80s to get the most recent capture of PT's before the actual test.

    Please join if you feel it would be helpful! We've only had one session with a couple of us so far - but found the method to be really helpful in seeing other people's POV's on question types etc.!

    Good luck with the remainder of 2021 testing!

    https://groupme.com/join_group/70353139/YEVzThZA

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    So putting aside the fact that I feel like an idiot for missing question 1....why is B incorrect? When I read it the first time, I thought it was correct because if someone were trying to maintain their reduced weight, wouldn't a diet be a poor option for them because once it's over, wouldn't they go back to eating their pre-diet level of food and gain weight?

    Someone on the Manhattan forum mentioned that this choice uses the word "should" and therefore it is wrong, but I didn't think that was good enough of a reason. I do see that the stimulus doesn't talk about recommendations or what people should and shouldn't do but if answer choice C had said the word should, the content of this choice would still make it correct, wouldn't it?

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    Long story short I have been with a tutor since MAY trying to learn a method where you hardly read the passage (only first sentence of each and last sentence of passage) then for every question it’s basically a word search

    I’m finding this method just doesn’t work. I’ve been questioning for months whether im an idiot or not but after practice testing with this method and getting 4 correct because her instructions lead me to the wrong answers I think I should change. The worst I did with powerscore method of ViewSTAMP was -9 so missing this many with this new method i’ve been paying for months is really upsetting. Sometimes her method works, for example certain passage sets I will only miss a couple but I really can’t afford to take this gamble anymore. Her method is not consistent with all passages I am finding.

    Anyways, i’m testing in October and I NEED advice on how to improve by then in that section even if that means dropping this method and doing something else. What did you do for RC? It’s my worst section and I kind of suck at reading. Whatis easiest for you to understand the passage and helps the most when answering questions. Any advice you can give or tips for me to try is much appreciated

    Thank you

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    I’m pretty happy with my score for the August LSAT but wouldn’t mind trying for a slightly higher one in November. I’m wondering if anyone can speak to how it would work in the admissions process if say,

    My apps are due Nov. 1st and include my first score.

    My hypothetical November score gets reported mid December.

    Would my new score really make a difference? Are admissions officers alerted of new score postings in the middle of the review process?

    Thanks in advance for any insight.

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    Hi everyone. I just got my score today which was a 154. I had been hoping for around a 155 to 160. Would anyone say that a 154 is a good score? It's at the 55th percentile.

    I'm not trying to go to a top 20 law school. My target school is a top 50 school ranked in the 40's though my score is below the 25th percentile. According to the 7sage law school predictor tool I have a 54 percent chance of getting in since I'd do the early admissions decision. Would you guys suggest I give applying a shot or should I retake for a higher score in November?

    Can you apply to a school and later retake the LSAT if you are rejected to a law school? If that's the case perhaps I could apply and if rejected, apply again next year.

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