Hey! Another 7Sager and I are starting an in-person study group that would meet in Berkeley, CA (on campus or elsewhere) to keep each other accountable, discuss strategies and problems, and such. Hoping to take the LSAT in August! Join us if you're motivated or need motivation :)

I have been studying for the LSAT for a while now but have only taken 3 PTs so far. Is it normal for scores to fluctuate? I am planning to take the LSAT in August 2022, and I think I am going to start taking PTs three times/wk. My goal is to get a 165+!

I get the questions correct under timed conditions, however, when I do blind review I change my answers from correct to incorrect.

Hey everyone!

Due to popular demand, I'm excited to announce that I'll be teaching a 10-week LSAT course starting June 1st!

We'll meet once a week for an hour. In addition to the instruction given during class time, I'll also assign homework, drills, and a study plan designed to support the weekly lessons and solidify key concepts. This class is ideal for anyone who wants a bit more structure and accountability as they work their way to their goal score.

The classes will convene every Wednesday via Zoom from 7pm-8pm EST. The first class will be held on June 1st, and will continue weekly until August 3rd. The class is limited to TWELVE students—first come, first served.

To sign up, visit this link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-live-class/

If you have any questions about the course, feel free to post it down below. I'm looking forward to it!

I am a freshmen in college who is on summer break. I plan on using 7 sage, the lsat trainer for RC, power core lsat logic games, and loophole for LR. I took the practice lsat through blueprint in April and scored a 130 lsat score. My goal is 171. What is some advice to make my goal be a reality. In addition I will be working full time towards the end of the summer.

Did 7sage delete the LSAT approved tutors?

Quick question -

I've just finished the grouping games intro videos on the CC. After watching JY walk through the solutions, I'm wondering, do we always just notate the necessary conditions on the gameboards?

For example, game 4 on PT26 (the lawmakers and scientists with one chairperson) has two not both rules. G -> /V and H -> /Y. Instead of notating G or H in, JY notates /V or /Y in, making the rules irrelevant since the necessary is satisified and the sufficient condition falls away.

In the game with the two boats with three adults and five children, there is a F -> G rule, and the contrapositive is /G -> /F. Instead of notating F or /G, JY instead notates G into the diagram. Once again, the necessary is satisfied and the sufficient condition falls away.

Is this what I'm supposed to be doing in my gameboard setup? Because if so, this might cut down some time while I'm doing games and even get my head straight when I'm doing the games.

If anyone has any advice on this, please let me know. I'm struggling most with just the gameboard set up (for most games) - as soon as I accomplish that, the questions are ridiculously easy.

I am currently unable to see the analytics by section on the analytics landing page. What used to show the numbers of questions I got wrong is now only showing "-". I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?

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Hello all, I am new to 7Sage, not entirely new to the LSAT, took it for the first time last January and scored a 158 after studying for 3 months on my own with Khan and some popular books.

Ive heard amazing things about 7Sage but I am just not sure if its right for me.

Im extremely frustrated and confused by the core curriculum layout. It has you learn a type of question drill it like 50 times and then moves on to the same thing with a new type of question. Well by the time ive completed the drills, I try to go back to complete some questions of the previous type and I cant seem to remember the strategies and or I mix it with the one I just completed.

I feel like im spinning my tires here. Is this normal for the beginning of the CC? Do I just trust the process?

In my other study material it strongly advised against practicing one type of question over and over in an attempt to master it as it would take away from the ability to tackle different types of Q's back to back, Im worried I am experiencing this.

I am no expert on the LSAT or studying for it, but I see the success 7Sage has afforded others and Im frustrated because I just dont see any progress.

Is this normal? When will I start to feel like im actually progressing?

I've completed Logic Game PT 1 - 52. Would you recommend I continue to do more recent PTs or redo the one I've already completed? I miss about 7-8 questions for a complete set (4 games) with timing (30 mins). When doing a blind review, I still miss 2-3 questions.

I'm preparing for the 2022 June LSAT. Any advice would be appreciated!

I submitted my paperwork for accommodations on April 7th (for the June test). This whole time it has been "under review" on LSAC and I looked today and there was nothing indicating that I had submitted paperwork. Ugh...I'm super frustrated. I emailed LSAC so I hope they get back to me soon. I never got an email indicating the I had submitted paperwork for accommodations. It just kept saying that they were under review so I assumed they received them. Has this happened to anyone before?

Like a lot of people, I had multiple connection issues while testing yesterday. They all happened during the same RC section so I had to re-read each time and then I also lost 4 minutes because of my proctor's mistake. I had two RC sections in my exam so there's a 50% chance that the one I had issues on doesn't count. I feel good about the rest of it and now I don't know whether I should retake it in May or take the gamble and use my first-time preview score on yesterday's exam.

I would be really grateful for any thoughts/advice!

Link: https://v.ringcentral.com/join/177556372647

We will continue to use RingCentral, though I am still not really sure what the deal is with its apparently-absent waiting room functionality. So I'll probably just put the link up ~15 minutes early and let people filter in. Feel free to chat amongst yourselves in the meantime! Face cameras are gently encouraged - it's a lot easier to have a conversation that way.

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Hi everyone! I decided it would be cool to run some office hours and help some folks out. I've done a few of these in the past and it's always been fun to talk shop with people. Think of it as a drop in/drop out study group, open to all.

Limiting this to 7Sage for now because it's easier to get things done if everyone has a common basis in terms of vocabulary, how you learn the theory, etc. and after a decade of using 7Sage I know the curriculum like the back of my hand.

Who Am I/Why Should You Listen To Me?

I scored 175 on the September 2006 LSAT (-4 RC, -2 LR, -0 LG), graduated from Columbia Law School in 2010, spent a year on fellowship with a judge in Bronx Supreme Court Criminal Division while teaching LSAT on the side, and have been teaching the LSAT full time since September 2011. I worked with JY on PreProBono and in the early years of 7Sage, was a 7Sage "Approved Tutor" for the entire life of that categorization, and am the only person other than JY himself who has ever had an instructional video published on 7Sage's live site. I am also the lead LSAT tutor and department chair of a local NYC-based test prep boutique. Some of my writing still resides in the "Sage Advice" section of this forum, so go check it out if you're interested .

Over the past decade-plus, I have amassed over 8,000 hours of combined classroom-based and one-on-one LSAT teaching experience, working with a diverse set of students from across the USA and all around the world - Canada, Brazil, Netherlands, England, France, Qatar, Korea, and China just to name a few. The best score increase I've ever achieved with a student is +36 (136 -> 172).

If you listen to the 7Sage Podcast, you may have heard my name mentioned in episode #67 - Vanessa (138 -> 169) was my student.

How Can I Join?

I'll put up a video chat link above when the time comes, and take it down when we're done.

When Will These Be Happening?

I currently intend for this to be a weekly thing, but the timing will vary depending on the other moving pieces of my schedule. It's not likely that every time will work for everyone, but I will at least attempt to switch it up so that anyone interested can make it at least some of the time. I currently live in New York, but I am a born and raised Californian so I understand the tyranny of Eastern Time very well, so don't worry West Coasters - I'm thinking of you guys too.

What Can I Ask?

Anything is fair game for now - general theory questions, questions about individual questions, macro questions about how to study/trajectory, questions about what hair products I use, etc. Feel free to DM me questions in advance as well. I can't promise I will get to all of them (don't take it personally!), but I will certainly do my best.

I am currently unsure how to handle the whole 'spoilers' issue (for example, a student has a question on PT60 S1 Q1, which another person hasn't gotten to yet), but I think that shouldn't stop me from just getting started. We might just have to tell some folks to deafen themselves temporarily if they don't want to get spoiled for now. In the future I may limit discussion in a specific session to a specific range of PrepTests or curriculum-only, or choose a specific topic to address in depth, or whatever else comes to mind to avoid this issue, but I still have to feel that out organically. Suggestions welcome.

Will This Be Recorded/Uploaded Somewhere?

No plans for recording at this time.

What Will This Cost Me?

Nothing but your time. Happy to help.

What If I Have Another Question?

Fire away! In this thread or in DM.

For those who have fool proofed, did you fool proof games that you completed in under the target time on the first try? So far I've still been doing each game 4 times (following the Pacifico method) regardless of if I completed it in under the target time on the first try, but I'm not sure if it's necessary.

Is there a way to launch a specific section section( LR or LG) of an LSAT test and go through the blind review?

Or do I have to complete the entire test and then BR?

Thanks in advance

So I have been having a hard time getting in to local law schools because of a transcript issue, but it seems I could get in to an online LLB program (equivalent of a JD in the US and Canada) based out of the UK. To become licensed back in North America, several exams would be required. Does anyone know anything about online degrees? Are they received well in the professional world? I'd appreciate anyone's input. Thanks.

With this question, I chose (C) over (D) due to 'becoming warmer'.

As (b) is eliminated with the same reason, I thought this whole passage doesn't talk about the future, but only focuses on what happened in the past 100 years. I got the detail that "greenhouse is the major cause" should be included, but (c) was more compelling to me as 'becoming warmer' seemed like a huge red flag for me.

I don't know why I get confused and waste time on relatively easy and clear-cut questions for others.

Overall, I think I'm too obsessed with details and words at this point. I tried to build the habit of not loosing details and tried to balance between holding on to the main structure, but now I feel like I have a serious problem of just maybe reading skill in general..?

Hope someone could give advice on my thought process...Really need help to improve on RC

Huge thanks in advance!!

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# (P#) - brief description of stimulus "

Explanation Video: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-84-section-1-passage-1-passage/

Got a random notification from here with a response to some logic games comment and I logged in to here to delete my account and wanted to provide an update.

I half assedly went through the 7sage curriculum for a few weeks during the summer before senior year of undergrad, stopped studying, and then months later took the lsat and got a 158 iirc. Once I learned about the bimodal salary distribution and merit scholarships (thanks TLS), I decided to retake the lsat to aim for a scholarship at a t14 that can get me a big law job to pay off my loans.

After undergrad, I spent a couple months at 2-4 hours a day of 7sage and PTs while working full time as a legal secretary. I was scoring from 162-172 on PTs and almost rescheduled the lsat cuz I wasn’t consistently scoring 167+, but I went for it anyways. Got a 168. I had a 3.8+ gpa from a state school. Got into UT, Vanderbilt, and Georgetown, and waitlisted at almost all the rest of the t14 where I applied. Used Vandy and UT to negotiate a 30% scholarship at Georgetown. Didn’t get off any waitlists despite visiting and sending a lot of LOCIs. Not much WL movement that cycle.

Got a 3.3 gpa during 1L and then raised that to a 3.5 during fall 2L (pandemic OCI was during 2L), which with upperclass grade curve inflation is actually around median and OCI was pretty tough. I did get a big law job in NY. I’m from CA and hate the east coast but I didn’t bother trying to apply to CA firms. Thankfully my firm let me switch before the summer associate gig started. And I applied to be a visiting student at a CA school during 3L so I could move back to CA and settle down where I want to live after law school and 3LOL in warm weather at the beach.

I have like 190k in student loans to pay off including undergrad so I’m very thankful that online resources guided me to a job that can actually pay that off.

Law school kinda blows and in hindsight I would’ve just been a business major in undergrad and not gone to grad school. As an immigrant I didnt really have the resources and network and knowledge that a lot of students have to be able to use a bachelor’s to get a high paying job. I’m happy it all worked out for me cuz my goal was just job security and I feel I have that since I got into big law.

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official April 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the April LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, May 3rd.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

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Good luck to everyone taking the April LSAT!

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Hey. I started getting these pop up ads from last week. even though I am on Chrome, and have deleted internet explorer, I am getting these ads that I just can't get rid off. I have tried deleting some files from my laptop but the ads keep on coming back. I was wondering what would happen if an ad shows up during the actual LSAT test. I know that the proctor website requires me to close all unnecessary apps/windows, but what would happen if an ad pops up during my LSAT would I get disqualified or am I worrying too much.

Thanks.

Hey everyone! There's lots of big study groups out there but I'm searching for a consistent nightly study partner to finish out the grind to the August test. Currently PTing upper 160s and looking to break 170s. I work full time so study at night only around 7-10 PM EST and weekends. Message me if interested!

No getting how the answer choice is right at all.

How do you know if your request was approved or denied? I submitted the request on the 27th and don't see anything on LSAC to check the status of it.

Hello all,

I was wondering if anybody could give me advice on Logic Games. I’ve been taking PTs everyday since April 11. And my test date is June 11. I’ve been seeing a slow incline and sometimes I’ll stagnate in scores. But I think it’s because my LG section is always really poor and it brings down my score.

Are their any strategies y’all would reccomend me do? Should I focus on LG during the week and then take PTs on the weekend?

Since my Best score so far on PTs is just shy of 8 points of my target score for the school I am looking at. So I think if I can just improve on LG section, then I’ll be able to get it on test day.

*PS, any of y’all watching the new season of Better Call Saul so far? Cuz I’m loving it! Haha