I started out with a 154 diagnostic and with my last PT, improved to 167. Although this is a great PT and could certainly be an outlier, the one thing that remains constant is my RC score. I have NEVER been able to reduce my incorrect ACs below -6. On the 167 PT, I got -7. I am curious if there are any other high scorers who had originally had this issue and were able to resolve it. Any advice?

Hi all, quick question!

In the Harder MBT Questions unit, JY covers two questions that involve the negation of embedded conditionals. I'm a little confused on the negations, and was hoping someone had some insight.

PT 33 S1 Q11:

A --> B

NOT (A -->B) which becomes:

A some /B

PT 30 S2 Q20:

(A -->B) --> /C

C --> NOT (A-->B) which becomes:

C --> A and /B

Does anyone understand why the negation of (A-->B) in one problem resulted in a some statement, while in another problem resulted in an and statement? Thank you!

Of course this isn't a one size fits all thing. We all learn differently and different routines benefit each individual, but if anyone needed some direction, here are some tried and true practices for your last week before test day. Take and use what suits you. You guys are fucking warriors and you got this.

Take 1-2 more PTs the weekend prior to test week... so like this weekend. I normally advocate for 1 PT/week, in order to give you time to extract the maximum value from the material through deep review, but here we are looking for a last minute push in volume of exposure to identify any residual weaknesses, and a final polish on our stamina. Take them at your scheduled test time with the exact setup/conditions you will have on test day.

Review everything that gave you trouble - not just wrong answers. More than on the content, focus specifically on what caused you to get this question wrong, and what specifically you can do this week to prevent you from making the same mistakes. Be specific. Saying something like "oh I got a lot of flaw questions wrong so I'll just work on those" is only a little better than saying "my score is too low so I'll just make it higher," why are they giving you trouble? What specific actions will help you address it?

Focus on LG. In my opinion, this section has the best potential for a last minute breakthrough. This is especially important if you are not consistently going -0 on games.

If you haven't yet, get on a schedule that centers around your test time. Make sure you will be rested even if you fail to get a good night's sleep the night before the test. Account for natural cognitive fatigue - if you have an afternoon time, maybe plan a nap or some downtime into your late mornings this week.

Pay attention to what you consume. Nutrition matters. You want a good balance of complex carbs, protein, and omega-3 fatty acids. My pre-test fave was salmon. Hydrate throughout the week so that you don't have to worry about it the morning of the test. The last thing you want is to chug a bunch of water and then have to go to the bathroom mid-section.

Work out. Physical activity improves learning. If you aren't a physically active person, maybe go for a walk or something each morning.

Minimize stress. Focus on relaxation. Don't take on any new stressful projects or get into fights with your family/partner. Stress is a performance killer in so many ways.

No drastic changes. If you're not a coffee drinker, now is not the time to start. If you are a smoker, now is not the time to quit. Whatever homeostasis is for you, that is your foundation for good performance in the next week.

Check your setup. Get on the ProctorU chat, and have them run you through an equipment check using your exact test day setup. One less thing to worry about. Also collect all the items you will need... ID, pencils, paper, earplugs, etc. Prepare your room, and make any necessary arrangements with friends/family (be out of the house, off the internet, watch the dog, stfu, etc.) ahead of time. You want to avoid any last minute stress and ease your overall cognitive load as much as possible.

Get your mind right. Meditate and practice positive affirmations. I am the least new-agey person you'll meet but whatever... this works. Don't stress about the right way, just do it. A 10 minute guided meditation (I liked Khan Academy's videos) every day did wonders for me. Remind yourself that you put in some good hard work for this, and you are well equipped to succeed on this test. You are confident and in control. No matter what you are going to beat this test so it might as well submit to you now. Visualize a successful performance on test day. You will be prepared, and zen AF, and ready to just destroy this test. Efficiency is the balance of speed and accuracy, and you will achieve this through economy of effort... slow and methodical when needed and explosive violence of action where allowed. If your first section is LR, you will be critical, smooth, read for understanding, and rely on your strategies. If it is RC you will read as fast as you can understand and translate as you go, summarizing each paragraph and maintaining a critical mindset as you attack the questions. In games you will remember your form and remember to push rules together. You will articulate exactly what criteria the stem gives you for your answer choice. You will skip aggressively and eliminate ACs aggressively because we don't have time for that nonsense. If you get stressed you will put your pencil down, close your eyes and take a few deep breaths. During breaks you will visualize my attack on the remaining sections and relax. Or something like that. Don't wait until the morning of... start now.

For the love of god take a break. If you do any one thing in the run up to the test, make sure you don't try to cram. You will burn out and waste all the months of hard prep you put in. Take at least a couple days off. For some people a few days off followed by a light day of prep before the test works. For others a break right up to test day with a good warmup the morning of is better. You know yourself best.

Is it recommended to read questions aloud when studying for the LSAT? It's easier for me to study that way, but I try not to because when it comes to test day I know I can't speak out to disrupt other students. Does this make sense? How do others study and what's recommended? It's challenging for me to break down the context of questions in my head.

Hi all! I keep misreading rules on logic games under time pressure. If a rule says “when J is in Y cannot be in,” I’ve read it as “when J is in Y has to be in.” Really silly in retrospect but I keep doing it under time pressure. I’m taking the June test (coming up in about a week), any tips for how I can avoid this and learn to do so in T minus one week? Re-reading rule translations was a useful one that I got from discussion forums. Anything else that could help?

Hi! I already took PT 70s on 7sage > LSAT Questions > Prep Tests and want to retest all 70 again!!

I don't know whether I should click delete button for test again or not.

Anybody can help me?!

English is not my mother language. Although I have been practiced a lot, I still make mistakes when I try to read faster. I can finish a question set if I choose +50% time. But I knew it wouldn't be enough if I want a good score. So if you have any same experience please give me some advice.

Curious on what to do for LR. When I do an untimed LR section, I only get a few wrong. When I do a timed section, I get a lot LOT wrong. I know this happens due to the time, I am just unsure how to fix this?

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Hi, so I recently took a PT on LSAC Lawhub to get used to the format. I want to transfer my answers over to 7Sage so that I can get the analytics, see explanations, etc. in the usual post-PT format. I'm sure there's a way to do this, but I can't find out how. Does anyone know how this is possible?

Hey y'all just in a bit of a rut and need some clarification from my 7Sage peeps. When the term "unless" is used in a logic game rule with other groups things get kinda dicey for me quick.

For instance in an In/Out game if there is a rule which combines the negation of a player via the group 4 "not" or "cannot" group in the conditional I can't for the life of me get it down who gets negated and ends up in the sufficient. Example:

"cannot select J unless W is also selected" . Question: Do I negate J to /J via cannot, then negate my negation of /J again via "unless" to end up with: If J --> W ? Is this correct?

I thought I had this mastered until I took PT 87 Game # 3 (Double layer Sequencing)

"Hanbock cannot be shown earlier than the third week unless Ibex is shown in the first week"

Who gets negated, how, and ends up in the sufficient? Sorry if this is painful for those who have mastered LG conditional logic. Thank you for your help!

-Drew

So I just took PT 88 (flex style)...and it was rough. Like we're talking I knew it was so bad, I didn't even bother with BR and will just redo each section individually tomorrow. I'm not discouraged, just a little concerned about how I managed to fall apart that aggressively. If anyone is willing to sift through my reflection and offer advice, I'd appreciate your words of wisdom. Harsh, gentle, and every tone of advice in between is welcome.

3 things I probably did wrong RE: the timing of this PT (which I took at the time I'm scheduled to take the test for real btw):

Actually taking the test:

TLDR; I messed up the logic games so badly that I knew there was no salvaging my score after that. And it showed in the RC section...LR I somehow managed to recover enough to only get -5 :)

All week, I've been doing individual logic games of all types and difficulties, most of them for the first time. I was finishing them quickly and fairly accurately (-0 or -1). I thought I had finally developed a strategy for paying extra careful attention and not making sloppy rule misunderstandings. Yet today, I did worse than my diagnostic. I somehow managed to misread a rule in every single game and couldn't recover.

This definitely started to leak over into the LR section, which is unfortunate because I was able to hit a personal best in my drills this week. But I still was able to implement my skipping strategy and I even stopped and closed my eyes for like a whole minute. My attitude was not great, but obviously I kept it together enough to get -5, which is about as bad as I'm hoping to do worst case scenario on the real test.

I thought I had made a recovery, but the lingering effects resurfaced in the 2nd RC passage. The passages were all actually quite easy to understand, but I think I just mentally checked out because I knew this test was a wash.

The big question

I guess if there was one piece of advice I absolutely need, it's how to stay mentally engaged after royally screwing up. I consider myself a good test taker and I've never gotten that deflated mid test, even on tests where I knew I wasn't up to par on the material. I always found a way to salvage some scraps, but just didn't have it in me today for whatever reason.

Like I said before, I'm not discouraged because I made some sick gains in my drills this week and was really feeling myself all week. It just didn't click during this PT. But with only 12 days to go...yikes

Also, if you read through all of this, you're a hero and deserve all the success in the universe.

It's been a long while that the word "last" has no meaning to me anymore, every time I see the word "last", I actually see lsat.

OMG.

So I am currently in the process of fine tuning some of my strategies and doing some last minute drilling before the June exam and was wondering if there is a reliable way to determine passage difficulty for RC. I feel like if there is a method to assess the passage difficulty, I could improve my RC score a little bit just by being able to focus on the easier passages first. If anyone has any tips/recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

I can't understand why the first (and not the last) sentence would be the MC. I note that several others posted comments with the same confusion with that question, it really was a hard question for a Q3!

If you were one of the geniuses who breezed through this one, I'd appreciate some insights!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-4-question-03/

Hi All! Apologies if this has been asked before, but can someone clarify how many dates we have as options for the LSAT Flex for each month? For August, I understand it starts the week of the 14th and you sign up when it opens a week and a half prior to that, but how many days do we have to choose from? Thank you!

Hi all,

Back for the April 2021 flex thread there was a really helpful comment a user wrote about which LG's he did prior to the test that made him feel really prepared. If you're one of those that feels LG is your greatest strength, I think this may be one last beneficial step just to lock it in. I plan to do it at least and hope it helps. I wanted to list the user's name for reference but it got cut out of the picture I took so feel free to look back through the thread and you should find it easily. A lot of people were saying how some of the April games threw them off but this person said he felt extremely prepared doing these hard/unusual games prior to testing.

Here's the list:

PT2 games 3 and 4

PT7 game 3

PT15 game 2

PT21 game 4

PTF97 game 4

PT25 games 2 and 3

PT 79 game 4

PT 88 games 3 and 4

All credit to him!! Just wanted to re-share for the upcoming test in case it could help. Happy studying everyone!

A couple months ago, I was getting somewhere between minus 3-7 per RC section and now I've seemingly lost my groove as I've been getting minus 10+ on more than a few occasions. Has anyone else experienced this? Tips/advice?

I am looking for a study group for October November testers who are willing to study minimum twice a week and that are committed to this fully.If anyone is interested, please let me know.

Hi everyone,

I have been studying since November and am signed up to take the August LSAT. For a long time I was super consistent but now I can feel my study motivation dropping. I am interested in finding someone (or a group of people) to study with to hopefully reignite my motivation. I am currently scoring between 169 and 171 on my PT's. I live in Hawaii so schedule wise people on the west coast would probably work best. Please let me know if anyone is interested!

Hey everyone

I have been having trouble with MBT questions in specific.

Can you offer your tips and hints to how you handle them? Do you find writing out logic to help or waste more time?

My last couple of practice tests have been REALLY rough for RC. I can read and understand the passage pretty well in around 4 minutes, but spend way too much time on inference questions (both author agreement/disagreement and general inferences about the passage questions). My RC scores have been tanking my overall score, I'm consistently -0 to -2 LR, -0 on LG when I finish the section but sometimes don't get to the last 2-3 questions. I was at a solid -3 to -5 with RC for the majority of my studying up until now, usually just from not finishing the last few questions, but recently my uncertainty with these inference questions is killing my score. I can usually only get it down to 2 or 3 answer choices, I overthink them for 2ish minutes, and then invariably choose the wrong answer. Looking for tips on how to answer these question types more confidently, especially when 2 or 3 answer choices can reasonably be supported by information in the passage. How should I be quickly assessing which statement for which there is more evidence that the author would agree with it?

If anyone has recently taken PT87 and remembers passages 1 and 2 from the RC section, would be interested to hear your thoughts/approach on the inference questions - especially question 6 from passage 1 of PT87! Or in general, if anyone has receded severely in RC - how did you get your score back up? Any and all help much appreciated

Hi everyone! This might be a silly question, but I could not find it in the FAQs section of the LSAT. Am I allowed to fold my scratch paper in half for the exam? I don't have a lot of desk space, so I'm trying to save some room.

I'm keeping this short and sweet because I just want to give a testament to 7sage and get that sweet sweet dopamine release from voicing my accomplishment!!

I started out with a diagnostic of 152. 1 month ago I started taking blind tests and after taking 3 - 4 I was averaging around 158. For the last 3 weeks I have been taking roughly 3 practice tests a day, 4 days a week. Last week I was averaging 168 but hadn't broken the 170 barrier. I just finally hit 172 actual, and then 175BR (I don't ever blind review tbh, I just went to finish the last 2 questions on LG that I didn't finish)

I'm not sure if this means i'm in a position to give anyone advice honestly, but if anyone has any questions for me, feel free to ask - I can give you my anecdotal advice!

I just logged into my syllabus and saw a message saying my LSAC Prep Plus subscription is expiring. Do I need to renew it to keep using my Ultimate 7Sage course? Please advise. Thanks