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Hi everyone, I am seeking some advice on what to approach first in regards to studying for the LSAT. I’m planning on taking the June 2022 LSAT and am start prepping to prep for it.

I bought the Manhattan prep books last year so I’ve been reading the RC , I found RC a bit difficult as I got 2/10 on the short exercises and it was mostly because I looked at the RC’s in a different perspective, although I did have the correct answers underlined. I was planning to enroll in the 7sage ultimate plus for additional support and instructions. However, is there a specific order that I need to study like would LG and LR possible make the RC’s clear? Any suggestions or tips?

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I've heard that foolproofing the games from PT50 to the present is a good idea, and I am leaning in that direction because a lot of the earlier games do seem to be relics of the past. But I also want to be able to do my full PTs from the newer tests. How should I reconcile this apparent paradox?

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Last comment thursday, aug 19 2021

Tips for timing

I had recently been going about taking PTS but rather untimed to see whether or not I'd be able to decipher the correct answer with the choices provided. On LR using this method I have gone -2 and -1, but I continue to struggle with timing. I possess the same issue with RC buts it way worse as I don't even have time to reach the the questions of the final passage before time expires. Any suggestions to improve on timing in these two sections?

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I just finished by Blind Review for PT 69 and got a 162 actual and a 180 on my blind review, something I've never done before. Before that I was averaging around a 160 with a 170/172 BR. I would go over questions I got wrong in depth, watching JY's explanation videos and such until I was sure I understood why the right answer was correct

I am so happy with these improvements because I got a 159 on the June test and I am retaking in October to hopefully hit a 163. I want to stay motivated and continue to see progress.

Should I continue doing timed practice every other day and blind reviewing, or should I include other forms of studying as well? I have 100% free time from now until mid-September. I'm leaning towards timed practice (i.e., practice tests) since clearly my weakness is the timing.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated! thanks so much

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Hi, I started at a 142 and am currently PTing between 155-157. Any advice on how to break out of this? My goal is a 165 by October.

I need to definitely work on logic games timing, but any overall tips would be helpful. Or any books/course/tutors!

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Last comment wednesday, aug 18 2021

LOR upload question

I'm applying to 12 schools, but when I go to add a recommender, the maximum number of letters from each recommender is listed as 10. How do I upload those 2 additional LORs? Thank you!!

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Hey all! I have a really close relationship with both my professors who wrote me absolutely GLOWING letters of rec. Unfortunately I am on my third cycle of applications, I will likely be reaching out to my professors in September to ask if they can resubmit, wondering if anyone else has had to do this and how you went about it? They are really supportive so I'm sure it won't be an issue but for some reason I can't shake that feeling of embarrassment & am not sure how to word the email.

Would appreciate any advice!

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Last comment wednesday, aug 18 2021

Withdraw ... or not?

This is killing me, so I had to share and see what others think. I got a 169 in October (with around 3 months of studying) and a 171 in June (a few more months of studying). My PT average going into the June test was around 173ish, with some 178/176 (BUT those tests were in the 70s, not 80s because I stupidly did most of those early; however, most of those early scores were also low 170s). LG was my worst section originally, but I've improved drastically (thanks, JY!).

I'm aiming for the best school that will give me a lot of money. (Like, a lot.) My GPA is lower than the median for all the T20, so I feel I need a higher LSAT to balance it out.

Final note: I messed up my alarms on the day of the June test (nightmarish, I know) and woke up literally five minutes before my test start time. No coffee, no food, no warm up or other prep. I had gotten the room ready the night before, thankfully.

I've been debating over the past few weeks whether I should just be happy with the 171 or take the August next week and risk a lower score if I have a bad day. I've done two PTs this week - one from the 60s (180) and a redo of 89 that I hadn't looked at since late last year (got a 171 this time, 168 originally). However, my drills have been going fairly poorly this week and I'm kind of freaking out. I'd appreciate any thoughts anyone has.

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I just finished my first ever LSAT and have a rough impression of how I did on each section relative to the others and relative to my usual PT performance on each section type. But will I be able to confirm this impression with more specificity when I get my results? As in, do score reports actually detail the number of questions right/wrong per section? Or do they only report the final overall score out of 180?

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Last comment wednesday, aug 18 2021

Simple RC Question

Does JY want us to write down low resolution summaries of each paragraph during actual RC practice tests and on the LSAT, or is it just a tool to use whilst learning how to do RC?

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Hi everyone, I'm having trouble understanding why answer choice B is the correct answer. I looked at B at first and thought that there was no way it could've been right. I chose C as my original answer

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Maybe I'm thinking too much, but perhaps not.

I first posted this question in the comments section of one of the CC lessons (https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-group-1-and-2-translations-1-answers/?ss_completed_lesson=17922), but since no one has yet to respond, I'm posting this here.

Main gist is, how should I treat subjunctives in questions?

Take, for instance, one of the sentences from this particular lesson "I would not be able to see Arun if he were in the next room."

According to standard grammar rules, "[I]f he were" indicates a subjunctive, which means in fact that Arun is not is the next room. This means that the sufficient is thus negated.

Or another example, this one from Fiddlers on the Roof. One of the famous scores has the line "If I were a rich man..." The character singing is not rich, that's why the subjunctive form of the verb "to be" is used.

If I see such a phrasing in the stimulus of a question, shall I assume that the sufficient is negated?

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Hi guys. I've heard it's best to annotate the least amount as possible on RC to account for time and accuracy on answers. I was wondering, what are your strategies and methods towards annotating for the RC passages. Do you highlight specific things like author's tone or change in language, etc? I would love to know to try out new ways of annotating on the digital test to see what works best.

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I'm a little confused about the relationship between the taxes and bus fare in this stimulus. In the first sentence, when it says bus fares are subsidized by city taxes, does that mean at least some of the fare is covered by these taxes? And when the councillors argue that city taxes should benefit those who pay them, is he assuming that people who commute from outside the city don't pay any taxes? Is that why he concludes that bus fares should be raised? to lessen the burden on the taxpayers? Is D wrong because it is talking about raising taxes and not the bus fares?

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So I was scheduled to take the test at 7am this morning and I had ran the equipment check multiple times the night before and the morning of. All equipment checks said I was good to go. However, once i went to start the test, the testing session had another system check called "ports" and repeatedly failed. This "ports" requirement was not a part of the equipment test and I had no idea that this could be a problem. I contacted tech support and they went through my settings and made sure everything was good which it was. I had techs straight up leave the chat multiple times and had other support workers having me repeat the same uninstall-reinstall tasks over and over to no avail. Eventually, after 2 hours, one of the techs just sent me a link that let me bypass the testing session and finally take the test around 9:30. There was no problem with screen sharing or them controlling my computer so I can only assume this was a technical error on their part.

While I got to take the test, it was immediately after 2 hours of non-stop heart-pumping stress and a few nervous breakdown close calls. I will definitely be taking it again in October but this has set back my app date by a few months all while I have to study for the lsat again while finishing my senior thesis. Im at a loss for how I will manage all of this now. Besides just letting off steam with this post I would like to know what you all think I should do. I do have chat logs with the technicians. I know filing a formal test complaint with LSAC will delay my scores by 3 weeks. Should I try and contact LSAC by other means and let them know the situation? The biggest thing is that I do not, under any circumstances, want to take it again through ProctorU.

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This is something I wish I could tell my younger self when I first started off studying. When I first started, I had this mindset of "If I study 5 hours a day and do 100 questions... yeah I'll definitely crush this exam." Yeah, I was definitely cocky with that mentality and now I realize how foolish I was back then to think that haha. But the reason for that is much of our exams in college and high school were fueled by this kind of approach. Whether it be a biology exam or history exam, if you memorized a fact, YOU KNOW and can regurgitate that on paper. "What year was the Declaration of Independence signed? Oooh easy, 1776!"

The LSAT is different. It is less a content exam and more of a skills exam. The exam tests very specific skills that, if you hone them well, will serve you extremely well come test day.

For example, in Logical Reasoning, it is all about evaluating the argument. What does it mean to evaluate the argument? It means you have to be able to find the Conclusion, identify the Premises, pause and think about any assumptions being made, and then figuring out why the correct answer is correct while all the others are bad. To be able to do all this quickly is a skill and the most critical skill on the section.

When I started off, I didn't think much about the above and my basis for success came down to how many questions I got right on a problem set. "Yes, I got 4 out of 5 right! I'm ready for this man!" But the I would just keep getting the same low score over and over and over.

The problem was that I may have gotten the correct answer a few times but I never fully understood why nor did I fully integrate the correct processes to be able to get them consistently right.

The best example is shooting a basketball. I was lucky enough to hit a few shots in a row but come game day, I couldn't hit them consistently time and time again. The only way to make this work is to make sure you integrated the correct processes into your brain so that it is seamless. That's why players like Steph Curry no long think when they shoot. They just shoot because the skill is so embedded in them.

That's where you want to be in LSAT prep. It is far more beneficial for you to take the time to figure just what skills the LSAT is testing and then figuring out the methods to consistently practice those skills over and over.

Your goal should not be "I want to finish 50 questions in 3 hours," but rather "Did I understand just these 5 questions and how to correctly approach them next time?" The latter is far more beneficial and will serve you well because the LSAT repeats the same concepts over and over. The same flaws, the same games, the same RC passages come up over and over. If you could to figure out the best way to tackle these problems the first time around and integrate them, you'll be ready to ace them without blinking the next time you see them.

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I heard from previous test takers that you can use ctrl-f on the lsat, I've been using it while doing reading comp and it really helps! I just wanted to make sure I won't be penalized for using it on the actual test, does anyone have any insight on whether it is actually allowed for the august exam?

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Last comment tuesday, aug 17 2021

balancing work/study..

Those of you who have managed to study while working full time.. how long did it take you to reach your dream score? any tips/advice on time management/ study schedule?

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It's been a few years since I graduated and I want to reach out to my professors for recommendation letters and I was wondering if anyone has any good email templates for people who have been out of school for a while. I would love to schedule a chat with them mostly because I want to touch base with them, let them know what I've been up to since graduating, and feel like that's done better over a call instead of email. However, I want to come off sensitive of their time and make sure they know I am doing this in hopes of receiving a rec letter. When I go to write the email I feel awkward because I don't even know if they remember me. One already agreed to write me a rec letter a few years ago but I have no idea if he remembers. Any tips would be appreciated!

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Hoping to crowd-source resources. I'm fairly comfortable if I can diagram a sentence but am trying to slowly wean myself off this time-consuming method. Anyone have great LR problems, drills, exercises that have helped you with conditional language you'd like to share?

Where I am at:

  • exhausted the CC topics on cond logic
  • saved a few LR questions to return to periodically
  • "flashcards" of the cond indicators
  • Thanks much in advance! I'll try to pull up the LR questions I've saved to share as well.

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