It is doable. I am not done yet because I would like a 160. But if I can do it as a mother of 2, working full time as a litigation paralegal and gain 17 points then you can too! Don't give up! Also a very special thank you to my tutor! I couldn't have done this without her! (I hope she sees this post)

Hi everyone,

While I've seen some people state their frustrations with scoring in the 165+ range because they wanted higher scores, I wanted to make a post for those who are proud of their accomplishments to date and getting scores that are reflective of where they want to be. No shame or disrespect to those wanting to achieve whatever perfection they are aiming for, but proud to support others who are doing their best all the same. Especially for those older in the group (30-year-old here!), the single parents or single-income households navigating full or part-time work.

This isn't the end of my LSAT journey (one more attempt will be made in October) but I wanted to give a huge shout out to those who consistently support and provide feedback in the lessons and discussion forums. Keep working hard, be proud of your accomplishments (because no one knows what this test is like unless they've sat through this process), and trust the process!

I can understand how ACs A-D are incorrect. I am truly struggling to see how E is correct.

My contention here is that even if a greater proportion of crimes are reported in recent years, those independent surveys would still include all of the non-reported and reported victims. Therefore, there is no way to make the argument that these two things could be viewed separately. The video explanation really did not clear this up for me. Can someone possibly explain how to understand this more clearly?

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I'm an International student (South Asian) applying to Law schools in the US. Do I qualify as a URM? also how much of a boost can I expect being a URM?

I live in Toronto, Canada and just recently got a full-time permanent job. I have been preparing for my LSAT for over 3 years now since I was in grad school full-time and working full-time. I am hoping to write my LSAT in August and apply for Law School. But I am getting worried and anxious just thinking about if I get into Law School in 2022 is this the right time to let go of a good full time job when the economy is doing bad due to the pandemic? The fear of struggling to find another job or the uncertainties of pursuing law school is making me lose my focus and motivation.

I also worry that pursuing a new career at this age maybe too late now as I could be competing against a lot younger people and will not have same energy/ patience to start all over again.

Anyone else in the same boat as me or have any advise? Thanks!

I'm hoping someone can help me on where to begin with retaking. I just took the June LSAT and scored a 151. Obviously not horrible, but also not where I was wanting, since I was at least PT-ing around 155-158 in the weeks leading up to my test date. I do feel like I had some external factors that didn't help (mental health, burnout from school, winter storm) and I didn't study for as long as I would have liked, nor did I take every PT available to me. I know some people feel as if they can't really improve from their first test, but since it is so "low" I'm really hoping that I can. For anyone who is also planning a retake, or has successfully retaken the LSAT, I would really appreciate any advice. I'm not looking to be in the 160's or 170's; I am very happy with the high 150's, since that's all I really need for where I want to go to school. Is this realistic? Smart? I'd appreciate any help or encouragement!

Thank you so much 7sage for the information that ya'll provide. I started this journey just about a year ago and have improved my score by 12 points by using 7sage and power score bibles.

I am a living testimonial of faith and keeping God first.

With the amount of work you put in with your LSAT studies; you can do it!

See y'all later my future lawyer's.

Just for your encouragement, I am a full time worker, work in a stressful environment. I scored 134 in June 2020 test, and June 149 2021 ( Thanks 7sage). I am not really happy but I am satisfied. Hopefully I can get in to a >100 and practice law.

Hi, I wanna know which tutor approved by 7 sage is especialy helpful for ESLs.

I contacted Sami but it seems she is quite occupied.

Who else will you recommend? Thanks!

Hi everyone, I just received my first LSAT score, which is 161...My practice score was ranging between 163-168, so I feel I need retake it. I have a full-time job and my goal would be 170s. Do you recommend me to take it in August or October?

Thanks!

I read that if you're above the median score, you shouldn't take it again. Is this true?

Some background: I am a first time test taker, and took the June LSAT and scored on the lower end of my PT range. I am above the median for my target schools and right at the 75th percentile mark. I have the ability to do better, but also have terrible anxiety that I don't foresee going away the second go-around. I'm really hoping for some scholarship money and don't know how much higher of an LSAT score I need to boost my chances. Do those few extra points matter if you're already above the median?

--Also worried because of the large number of highly qualified applicants. Could the incoming 2021 class profile cause the scores to skew even higher, thereby changing the median scores of my target schools? Or do these generally stay the same year to year??

I know I asked multiple questions, so thoughts or feedback on any of the above appreciated. Thanks!!

I got a 159. Same as my April score. I got a 144 my first time in Sept of 2018. This is my 3rd attempt and I seriously do not want to retest. My PTs were 166-170 consistently so I am not sure what happened. I am only looking to get into UNC, their median is 165 or higher with this cycle. I am frustrated, any advice on retaking or what my chances would be?

I've now scored 168 three times with a 166 sandwiched in between. PTs have been consistently above 170 of late but clearly it hasn't happened on the real thing. Already registered for one last rip in August. Anybody else managed to pull this ignominious feat? I need to commiserate.

Hi! So I was admitted this March to do an M.A. program at my undergrad which would allow me to work toward my BA and MA at the same time. However, despite doing the program for about 2 months and loving it, I could not find any means of receiving financial assistance through research assistantships, TA-ing, etc. so I decided that I would transfer everything from my graduate transcript back to my undergrad transcript and withdraw from the program. Law school is already really expensive, so I didn't think this would be cost effective! I believe that everything else seeming normal, some of the courses on my transcript are at the graduate level, and I'm not sure if it would be written anywhere that I withdrew from this program. Furthermore, I'd really love to get into the law school program at the same undergrad I went attended!

Would all of this be something that I should disclose in my application? Thanks. :-)

I hope my question's not too confusing.

Does anyone know the closing time for the 7Sage 7K Law School Scholarship? It says on July 1st. Does that mean at midnight tonight or tomorrow?

Well, I got my June Flex score back and, at 163, it's two points higher than my best PT score and above the 75th for my target schools. I'm not a 170+ scorer obviously, so take this as you will: The best piece of advice I got was to stop trying to finish every section and focus instead on getting the questions I attempted correct. On the official test I only finished the LR section in its entirety, 2.5 games, and 3 RC passages. I had to bubble blindly on the rest. If you're not aiming for the T14, that might be okay for you too.

Good luck to all of you, and thank you for the support!

Hello,

I am new to using the PrepTest feature and am preparing to take the August 21/October 21 exams.

Should I be preparing using "stimulate flex" and having three scored sections or having 4 scored sections?

I want to be using my time correctly and efficiently.

Please let me know!

Thanks,

Maxwell James

I couldn't sleep well yesterday since I was so worried about my score. I got up at around 6 AM to check my score and it is 162. This is the third time I took this test: I got 161 in Nov 2020 and still 161 in Jan 2021. Though one-point improvement does somewhat enable me to console myself, I am unhappy. I have been on the waitlist of my top-choice law school which is one of those T14s, so this June test is important for me to improve my chance of being admitted... I hate to say this but I am thinking about giving it up. I have prepared for the LSAT for one year and my diagnostic score is 149 (untimed), and I really appreciate that 7Sage has helped me to increase my score by 13 points.

I know there are people whose scores are lower than mine, but the 162 will still keep me away from my dream school. Moreover, since I already took a gap year after my high school graduation, my family doesn't allow me to gap one more year this time to reapply for the law schools, which means, this is supposed to be the last LSAT I could take in my whole life. My average PT score is 168, so I felt extremely frustrated when I saw the 162. I expected to see a more huge progress like a 3-point improvement, but unfortunately, I don't. I know there are so many people who took the test at least 5 times and got their target scores, and I know I can never be one of them.

I feel so bad to say this, but I don't have any more chance to retake the test, and what's more, I don't wanna retake it anymore. I am tired, anxious, and always wanna cry when thinking about how I let my family and friends down and how all of my efforts become in vain. Thus, to overcome this negative mindset, I plan to take a break this summer before entering the law school which accepts me, so that I can spend time do something else, such as doing workouts, reading books, learning Japanese, etc.

My next step is to go to the school that admits me and then struggle to get transferred next year. (Because this school is much much far away from my home and I wanna meet with my family often, and also, it is more expensive than my dream school). I don't know if I should take another LSAT for the transfer purpose, so I would appreciate if any of you can provide any tips.

Congratulations to all of you who took the June test. LSAT is such a challenging task in our lives and I cannot imagine how brave and grit one should be and how hard one should work to get over it. I apologize if I am not making sense or this post makes any of you who is preparing for the LSAT feel scared.

I got my score back and got a 159. Honestly I started crying but then realized a few months ago I thought I would never get past a 155 (diagnostic was a 148). I am proud of myself and I feel for anyone who feels like a failure for reading posts about people being upset with a 170. A 159 is the 75th percentile -- the top quartile. Of course that's something to be proud of. Even though I will retest in August, I am actually kind of proud of my score given how much work I've put it and raising it +11 points.

That being said, I will be continuing to use 7Sage in July to prep for August. I am aiming for 163 at the lowest (+4 point increase). Does anyone have advice on what to do in the short amount of time I have? My +11 point increase took me a year to get, I started studying in May 2020. Is a private tutor worth it for a month? I already know that success can only come with timed practice and real practice tests, which I of course plan to do. Any advice would be so appreciated.

And seriously... do not let discussions about 165/170+ being "mediocre" blindside you. This forum is filled with a very concentrated pool of dedicated people. A majority of people would do anything to break 155, 160 and 165. Reaching your goal is an achievement even if that goal is someone else's diagnostic. Congratulations to anyone who has studied their ass off and put themselves through months of practice tests and weeks of waiting to know how you did.

My score came out and after 6 months of additional studying it’s 2 points lower than my first take. I feel like I choked on test day and the 2nd score isn’t representative of my current abilities at all. At the same time, I’ve heard that more than 2 takes can be a red flag to top schools. What do y’all think? Go for a 3rd?

I am guessing I am not the only one who didn't get the score they have hoped for on the June exam (which hurts terribly after over a year of studying). Passing along two things that made me feel better after my last disappointment that I will revisit again this time....

This article: https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/if-you-didnt-get-the-lsat-school-you-dreamed-of/. After you read it, I suggest making a sticky note with "Never flinch. Be tough. Be unflappable. Be upbeat." somewhere on your workstation. I look at it every time I want to quit.

Any episode of the 7sage podcast with a " lower score - (170+ score)" in the title. Almost every single high scorer that JY has on the pod has multiple lower takes with a rollercoaster of disappointments. We are not alone in scoring below our PTs and can benefit from other people's stories.

Please drop any other motivating tips below.... August here we come!!

Does anyone know of legal jobs that involve or allow for part-time work? I'm just curious, and would appreciate any and all leads you all have for niches in the field of law (or even outside of law, but suitable for people with a JD) that are amenable to part-time or flexible work.

Four f*cking years. I'm tired. I'm so tired of this shitty test. I go at most a -4 in RC and a -1 in LG. LR, though, is a complete and utter mess. I score anywhere from a -5 to a -13, or hell, even worse. I have no control over this section. I've been trying to master this section for four years now and I cannot. I've tried every resource available, every study technique, but LR success utterly evades me. I've done every LR section in existence. On the most recently released test (the May one), I went -4 in RC; -1 in LG; and -11!!!!!! in LR.

I'm so close to giving up. I was waitlisted by every school I applied to this cycle with a 164, and I can't see myself scoring any better in August because I seem to be getting worse in LR, not better. Worse. I have no idea what to do anymore.

If anyone can help me, please reach out. I really need help and I need advice for sanity-sake.

I consistently get -3 (or -4) every LR section and can't seem to improve.

If anybody has read this book, would you recommend it for someone who is really struggling with LR even after going through the entire CC here on 7sage?