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Hi guys ... I'm going to ask a relatively simple question that's been confusing me a lot.

I'm currently in doing the "How to Take a Simulated LSAT Test" (https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/how-to-take-a-simulated-lsat/) and that article provides the following information: The LSAT is divided into two 105-minute sections, with each 105-minute sections consisting of three 35-minute sections.

This is confusing because there are only five 35-minute sections:

  • Logical Reasoning

  • Reading Comprehension

  • Logical Reasoning

  • Logic Games

  • Writing Prompt

    • I've only done 2 PrepTests at this point (without any writing practice yet) ... so I've been splitting my test into two 70-minute sections with a 15 minute break. Is this the correct way to practice?

    Also, while I'm at it, is the above order of sections standard? I remember Logic Games coming first on my diagnostic, not last.

    Thanks for any clarifications!

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    Can I keep it a buck with you guys?

    The 7Sage community really is wonderful - it's full of love and encouragement and a realization that we are all in this together. I've (silently) read along with so many posts, both people down and up because of this God-forsaken test, and have rooted for you all every step of the way. I figured it's time to write my own post and to seek some general tips and advice from you all; sorry in advance for the length of this post.

    I was a legal studies major in college and I knew from day 1 that I wanted to go to law school. I fell in love with law and all its related concepts (politics). I found my passion and was ecstatic about it. I've always been an ambitious person and that carried on through where I wanted/want to go to law school. That meant T-10, with my top goal being H/Y/S, especially H (Barack Obama is my role model, lol). I first took a raw LSAT and scored a 156. I was a junior in college and my mind began racing with possibilities. After junior year finished, I studied - for what I thought was - really hard until I took my LSAT in September of that year, September 2018. That's about 4 months of straight studying.

    Only now do I realize how negative it was - I was doing a mixture of 7Sage and Powerscore books. I wasn't Blind Review'ing, I wasn't intently going over wrong answers (maybe only superficially) and definitely not right ones. I would use Adderall all the time to study and take tests. My life was a bit of a mess - I was living with my then girlfriend at the time; it was incredibly toxic. My whole life was. My life consisted of infidelity, some drug use, and excessive and heavy drinking. I had a chaotic life. I now realize that my studying was fueled by narccisim, ego, and superficialties; I had lost my way.

    Eventually, I realized that taking Adderall every single time before a test might not be helpful - I stopped, and my score went up straight away. I wasn't making many gains at all until I made a big jump from 159 to 163 on PT49 and I was ecstatic - I still remember the feeling. My target goal was a 175 and (once again proving how foolish I was) thought that I could get up to where I wanted to go in such a short time. I bounced around in the 160's, though never surpassing 163 again on all the rest of my PTs.

    It didn't happen. I took the LSAT in September, and I knew immediately I did terrible. I don't even remember taking it - it was a blur. It was a complete disaster. I got a 153 on that test.

    That really hurt me. It felt like a repudiation of my entire self. It hurt me to my core. (I know how foolish it seems).

    I fell into a deep depression. It started to seem like the things I wanted to achieve wouldn't be possible. It was my first real smack in the face in my life. Things ended with that girlfriend, I isolated myself, and it was just generally rough.

    I soon realized how bad my situation was. I spoke with my older sister and other family members and they helped me through it. I realized I needed to reexamine who I was. That next whole year, essentially, I stopped doing the LSAT. I became much happier. I had an amazing senior year and by the end of it, I knew I wanted to delay law school and go to the Peace Corps. This is what I did and I was stationed in Ethiopia. It was an amazing experience, but due to unforeseen circumstances, I had to leave early, and I'm back home in the US. While I was there, though, and through that year, I felt healed. I found myself again. Rediscovered my faith, got closer to my family, read a lot, and just discovered more of who I was. It's been amazing. It helped put the LSAT into perspective. It's not the end-all-be-all, even if it can seem that way.

    It took me a long time to work back to the place I am now. I have found my immediate future; I am about to accept a position with Teach For America, so once that starts, it'll be a 2 year contract, and then I want to go to law school.

    I've recently started studying for the LSAT again. With all these new tools at my disposal - trying to be healthy and do it the right way this time. I've been using the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim as well as some explanation videos from 7Sage, because JY is amazing and so is this whole community. About 3 weeks ago I took another LSAT - it was a big deal for me to finally take one again, to finally dive in again. I got a 159 and was happy with this score. I forgot for a second to BR, so I only BR'd 2 sections, but I immediately realized how helpful BR'ing is. I was ecstatic.

    I took another one last week, that vile September 2018 LSAT again, and this time got a 156 (BR 161 - weird). I was a little disappointed, and realized it was really impacting me - even though it shouldn't. I'm not worried I'll sort of spiral like I did last time, but I don't want my happiness to rely on this test. I just want to do the best I can.

    So basically, I wanted to see your guys thoughts on where to go from here. My target goal hasn't changed. I'll study for as long as it takes, as much as I need to to get where I want to go. If it's studying straight for 2 years, I don't care; I just want to make sure I'm doing it right, I know what to expect, and where I can attack it. Any study plan recommendations or stories of people from a mid 150's to a 170's, as well as any sort of usual timetable? I'd love to hear them. I guess I just need to know this is possible - sometimes it feels as though it isn't.

    Also, just FYI, my splits on the last two tests:

    PrepTest 71: LR -16, RC -8, LG -6

    PrepTest 85: RC -10, LR -18, LG -5.

    Also don't really know what happened here because normally I'm strong on LR and very weak on LG. Idk.

    I'm so thankful for this community - it's held me up and helped me in so many important ways - not just the LSAT, but for mental health, positivity, and encouragement. You all are the best.

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    I received my first acceptance today, and I just want to thank everyone at 7Sage who helped me on this journey! Not a T-14 or anything crazy like many of you, but a school in the top 30 nonetheless! The dean called to tell me they'd be offering me a full scholarship - I can't wait to get more offers from other schools, but IMA BE A LAWYER, Y'ALL! Thank you JY and everyone in the 7Sage community! Sorry for all the exclamation points, but I am so pumped!!!

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    Hi all does anyone have an Excel sheet where they keep track of questions they've missed where you can track your flawed reasoning and see how your reasoning changes over time? Pacifico had an LG Excel sheet but I'm looking for an LR sheet. I know I've seen one on here before but I can't remember where. Thanks in advance :) Feel free to DM me and I'll send you my e-mail if that works best.

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    I sat for the ‘November 2019’ exam just over ten days ago. Is it normal to still feel exhausted after this much time has passed? So far I have woken up with an lsat hangover every. single. morning.

    I refuse to continue feeling sluggish.

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm planning to take the LSAT this summer of 2020 (in either June or July). I would love to know the test dates so that I can plan my study schedule accordingly.

    Does anyone know, based on past years, around which month the LSAC usually announces the summer LSAT dates? I just would like a general idea to know about how long I'll have to wait for this information.

    Any input would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks! 😁

    Nicole

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    Hello, everyone: I am experienced with the LSAT. I just need someone to guide through some tricky situations I find myself in in each of the sections. I am seeking a tutor who is willing to assist in helping me reach my target score range. Thx!

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    Hello everyone I need some help with an issue I have been struggling with. Any input would be great.

    Back story:

    I graduated high school in 2007 and started community college

    and i am currently doing both and plan to get my associates fall 2019 and bachelors in may 2020

    Since 2007 I have been the worst at yoyoing through my enrollment. Most semesters I would start and stop college for whatever reason (i have a lot of Fs from not showing up and Ws because i would withdraw before the date)

    I started University in Fall 2018 and will graduate with a 3.8

    My community college grades are weighing my 3.8 to a 2.7 total

    Here is my question.

    I can take some courses over and raise my gpa to a 3.0 (this would need to happen in spring 2020 or I can keep it and invest the time into studying for the LSAT. I plan on taking it in October/November 2020.

    So i either take some classes and not start studying until May

    Or just write an addendum and use the time to study for the LSAT.

    (I have already asked the schools about changing to withdraws and its not possible)

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    Hey guys,

    I was wondering whether it's appropriate to list an incoming position on a law school resume.

    The reason I want to include it is because the position is with a great organization and I'll be doing work that directly relates to the type of law I plan on practicing. Because I talked about wanting to practice that type of law elsewhere on my applications, this position would tie everything together nicely.

    However, since I won't start working there until a few weeks after I submit my applications, does anyone have any advice on how to list it on my resume, or any potential downsides to doing so?

    As a side note, I don't want to push back sending my apps any longer, so I've already ruled out waiting until I start the position to put it on my resume.

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    Hey Everyone,

    Okay so I have been using Prep Tests 1-35 as strictly untimed drilling materials. I have consistently been using these tests for untimed problem sets in order to increase my accuracy. I plan on starting to time myself some months before I take the test. From which PT should I start using for timed testing practice? I just don't want to use too many PT as untimed drilling material that I don't have more than enough PT to use for timed work. I hope this makes sense. Thank you in advance!

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    Hi everyone!

    I just have a question about the course structure for the Ultimate+. After the core curriculum, there are 4 sections called Drills from PrepTests 01-09, Drills from PrepTests 10-19, Drills from PrepTests 20-29, and PrepTests 1-35. For each of these sections it shows "0 mins" next to each. Are these looked at as extra and not part of the main testing material?

    How should I go about studying? By plowing through all of these sections labeled zero mins first? Or by skipping ahead to the first official PrepTest with a time next to it? My fear is a lack of time for finishing all the material so I'd like to be strategic in my approach.

    Any advice on how to approach my studies?

    I am currently in the middle of reading comprehension.

    Thanks!

    Nicole

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    My PT scores are stagnating in the low 160s while my BR keeps increasing with each test (now in the mid-170s) and I don't know why! Any advice you have about how I can get this improvement to show in my PT scores would be really helpful. Currently my strongest section is RC and most inconsistent/weakest is LG.

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    I have recently started studying seriously for the LSAT. I am looking to attend law school in the US. Afterwards, I would like practice in the US.

    Are there any limitations on an international student's ability to get hired out of law school and work in the US? After my undergraduate studies, I came across this issue in applying for entry-level positions - nobody wanted to sponsor me for an entry-level position. Are there any other considerations I have to make aside from visa sponsorship?

    My apologies if this is vague... I know very little about how a Canadian might practice in the US!

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    I recently got accepted to the University of Minnesota and was pretty set on this being the school I was going to attend. Until today, I found out I got accepted to the University of Toronto.

    I now have a tough decision to make and was looking for any pointers? Which school would be a better choice for career outcomes and opportunities? I should mention I am from Minnesota and an alum from there as well. I’ve just heard amazing things about Toronto and it’s reputation.

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    Hi, I've been studying for the January LSAT for a few weeks now, and since my blind diagnostic of 169, I've been plateauing in the 167-169 range on timed prep tests. I've been studying for a couple hours every day (except for a brief recess to travel to my undergrad graduation) and I'm starting to feel dejected about reaching my goal of around 173/174. My errors are spread equally between LR and LG (and are usually the product of overlooking little details, so I've been working on trying to amend that), while my RC scores have been surprisingly good and I'm not particularly concerned about that area. My study methods include reading the LSAT Trainer, the Powerscore LSAT Bibles, watching videos, and taking prep tests every other day and then reviewing my errors. I decided against paid courses/tutoring because of my diagnostic score and the prohibitive costs. Is my goal of the low 170s realistic given the timeframe and my study methods? Does anyone have any tips about strategies to maneuver oneself out of the high-160s zone?

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