Hi everyone,

I received a 172 on October's LSAT. I know I should be excited and grateful, and I am. But I am still tempted to take November's test in a few days which I am registered for. Of my last 5 PTs two were 172s and the rest were 175 and up. My thinking is that since they only count the highest score, the advantages of possibly doing better outweigh the disadvantages of possibly doing worse. Doing worse is a real possibility and I already have one cancellation from July. My weakest section is LG and If I get a hard LG section my score could suffer. I've ranged from -0 to -10 in LG. I can tell right away If I bomb a section and would cancel but I think 2 cancellations look really bad. I am not sure if I should retake, and would appreciate your thoughts.

Can I please get feedback and recommendations for LSATMax as source for LSAT Prep

7 Sage is excellent,but I was wondering about LSATMax as a supplement source for LSAT Prep,thinking in terms of Jan 2020 exam

How do you get to JY review of all the latest question that was held from nov2-nov16

November will hopefully be my last take. I first took in June when I was mid - high 160s (with one 170) and cancelled because I was nervous on test day. Wrote again in September with Prep Test scores hovering in high 160s - low 170s and scored 164. Gutted, I'm going for one more try and am finally consistently hitting the mid 170s. Last month of PTs has been 177, 174, 175, 163 (was sick) 166 (next day - still recovering), Tuesday's 172, and today's 173. My diagnostic last December was 157. When I started out I had no idea I'd ever be where I am today: looking to go knock a 170+ out of the park on Monday.

I've learned some incredibly valuable lessons along the way. For one thing: never stop respecting this test or it will punish you. Next, don't forget that the light at the end of this tunnel is law school, then the Bar exam, followed by a meaningful career practicing law. Finally, this test is intended to quantify your ability to understand and reason with complex/dense words and situations - consider that getting better at these skills is early preparation for your future career.

No matter what happens I know without a doubt I, personally, wouldn't be hitting these scores without the excellent content of this site and the brilliant, dynamic support found here on the forums. If I'm having a bad prep day, I know I can find the right motivation here - it's happened multiple times. So, with that, thanks to all for sharing the adventure. To those taking the November exam: may the logic come easily and may the curve be generous.

I will make a longer post about my LSAT experience later, but I wanted to give a huge shout out to 7sage and your community. I'm breaking up with the LSAT, and cant wait to enjoy my freedom.

To everyone still studying, just know you all will reap the benefits of your hard work! This test absolutely broke me at some moments along the way, but I always remembered the long game. Dont give up!

Hi everyone I've been using 7Sage for about 2 months now. I originally planned on taking the January LSAT but I realized recently that I'm not as close to my goal as I want to be (high 160's). So I decided to push back and take the test later next year and give myself much more time. Despite all that I've learned about the LSAT the biggest epiphany I've had is that going from the mid 150's to the high 160's is a lot more work than I expected. I'm fine with pushing back the test but since I have so much more time to prep I don't know where to start. I moved through the core curriculum pretty quickly and I'm thinking about going back through it. I also do not know when I should start taking PT's... I know that while the core curriculum is important for understanding theory, PT's are the best practice. Since I have access to every PT on here I want to get through all of them...

Any recommendations on where to REstart?:(

Hi,

When JY lists 5 minute ideal time for LG, is that assuming after foolproofing or under test conditions?

Hi everyone,

I have been studying for the lsat for a few months (4), and I can't seem to break the 150s consistently on my PTs (highest 152). I usually average a 145, and my short term goal for now is to score a 155 by January. Does anyone have any tips for me?

Also, here are my study habits! maybe there is something wrong with that.

Monday- Friday, 10 am to 12 am = creating problem sets and doing Logic games and drilling them from the first 40 LSATs.

12:30 to 2 = looking through LR videos again (I struggle in this section the most).

2 to 3 drilling reading comp from problem sets.

I usually do 2 practice tests a week. I struggle the most in LR, and seriously need help on improving that!

So currently I'm PTing at around 140, with BR of 150, and my goal is 163.

My current plan is to Do a PT one day, BR it the next, and review my answers the following day. Ultimately trying to squeeze 2 PT's in per week.

Since there are a ton of wrong questions, do people usually review these past wrong questions on their own day? Also do people make a question bank of the wrong answers to redo them?

If you have an efficient strategy, please share as it would be much appreciated!

For anyone who has written an afternoon lsat (12:30pm), do you have any tips to fight the afternoon sluggishness and stay alert?

I’m a military spouse and I have been studying for about two years now! My scores are very competitive and I was planning on taking the January test but my husband just got word that we may be moving to Belgium for a year or two depending on the contract! I was wondering how bad it was if I took the exam but waited those two years to apply to schools? I didn’t know if the admissions offices see the dates that the exams were taken on the application! Any help is appreciated! :)

So I took the test in June and got a 163, took it again in July and got the same exact score so I canceled and signed up for October. I just got back my October score, and I got a 160... I'm feeling really anxious because it seems that it will look really bad to law schools that I did worse on a recent exam. I don't plan on applying for a few years, but I'm dreading the thought of having to take this exam again. I'm also stressing because I've taken courses and read a ton of prep material, and also took pretty much every PT. I'm at a point where I don't know what I should do.

Has anyone been in this same situation? Any advice?

I'd appreciate any input at this point.

Hi all,

I wanted to thank 7sage for providing amazing and affordable resources for my LSAT journey. It was a long and exhausting, but definitely worth it. I studied for over a year, and it was always encouraging to see stories where people had improved significantly. I hope that my story helps others to see that improving by 18 points or more is totally possible with hard work! Good luck to everyone on the rest of their LSAT studies!

Hi everyone, I just finished my core curriculum, and I have some strategies I want to impelement in the drilling and preptest stages and I want to talk to someone, one on one in private chat or skype or whatever medium is easier, it really helps to hear someone else's impression of my studying strategy and to get some quick pointers, I do have some friends who have done lsats who I can speak with but usually they give me very general tips and then get back to work to hit their billing target for the month lol, jk but really wondering if this practice is even a thing.

Thank you!

Does anyone know where the 2023 Law School Admissions Forum is these days? It looks like it's not on TLS or LSN.

Sorry this is a bit late, but I wanted to give a very big shout out and thank you to JY for conducting multiple BR sessions with prep test 88. I can't tell you how incredibly helpful that was, and it was great to get to know some of the other 7sagers as we went along. JY, thanks for taking a huge amount of your time to help us get better scores. It also is quite an honor to get to work directly with you. I'm sure we are all better for the experience.

I’m not seeing any, so just checking.

With LSAC's recent announcement that they will release lsat scores to law schools before the lsat writing review has been completed, I wonder about how this policy change will affect CAS reports.

My report is currently being held up because LSAC hasn't released my writing sample review (despite completing it before an applicable application deadlines), although my october score was released today. However, within my LSAC account, my law school report appears ready to be sent. The report status under the school I applied to says :

"Report generated: type credential"

Does this mean that the CAS report has been generated and will be sent?

Thanks!

Been studying since June this year and will take the real thing on Monday November 25th. I just high scored on PT 71 at 175!! I'm really confident now for monday and feel like the hard work will pay off. Good luck to everyone who is testing as well and just know you will do great! Thank you 7sage!!

Hello to everyone taking the November LSAT next week and I wanted to wish you good luck and tell you that we freaking GOT THIS IN THE BAG. We're gonna kill it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Apologies if this has been answered before but preparing LG drills and I noticed there have not been any spatial games in an exam since ~PT 35.

Has this been noted by LSAC / is it considered "dead?" Just trying to hone in on games before the test next week and want to make sure I am using my time wisely.

Thanks so much!

Hey so I’m just starting to PT. I was wondering if it’s normal to PT, BR, and Check answers each on different days? Since this score has tons of wrong answers (I’ve done 2 pt’s and got 140, and143), I feel like to do all 3 in one day and try another PT right after seems a bit excessive.

10/26/2021 Update: I am currently a 2L at USC Gould. Feel free to DM me questions about the LSAT, the application process or law school. My journey was far from ideal, but I hope I can provide some insight.

Overview of my journey:

I'm writing this for a bit of inspiration for anyone that is in need of it because my journey was not easy, but it sure paid off because I stuck to it.

I studied on/off for nearly two years total. My diagnostic was a 144 back in Jan 2017. After finishing the 7Sage CC, I was sitting at a 152 in May of 2017. I made sure to really take my time with the lessons and I hope everyone does the same as well--it was time well spent and I would definitely do it this way again.

Post CC was really where the grind began. I was dead set on a 170 score.

My first take: 161 in December 2017.

Second take: 161 in December 2018.

After studying for 10 months 5.5 days a week for 8 hours a day, I received the SAME EXACT SCORE.

I was actually depressed after this test. I was emotionally numb for about a month, it was rough. The following weeks post-results felt like a nightmare I would eventually wake up from. In particular, LSAT was my life at this point, and to have zero improvement on the only thing I was focused on was one of the toughest feelings out there. Most of all, I had nobody to blame but myself.

I took a two month break and got back to hitting the test hard again for 4 months.

Third take: 166 in June 2019.

Same study plan, but I used the BEST tutor, @"Cant Get Right." I'm not sure how the rules are for plugging people, but he was just phenomenal with picking out my weaknesses and helping me combat them in an understandable way. I cannot say enough great things about Josh. Here is his website. https://www.nevermorelsat.com/

Top 3 tips:

DO NOT USE ALL THE PT MATERIAL. I cannot stress this enough. I would feel so confident after blind reviewing a PT from learning an immense amount from it that I would take another right away WITHOUT drilling weaknesses. Not surprisingly, I would receive similar scores, on average, because I failed to address weaknesses. Sure I spent days on BR ripping apart questions, but what's that worth if I never addressed the underlying problem by drilling it away? Make sure to save PT material and use it wisely. Personally, I ran out and that created a ton of unnecessary problems. Without drilling in-between PTs, I would waste limited PTs on full tests to receive very little benefit from using all that material. Please don't make this mistake.

Good, bad, or otherwise, DO NOT let the overall score get to you, ever. When practicing for this test for an extended amount of time, the most important thing to know for keeping one's mental in the right place is that an overall score is simply a really poor gauge for your improvement. Seems a bit counterintuitive, right? Of course, to combat this, 7sage takes the last 5 PTs and averages them for your improvement score. Although this is more accurate, it's still a poor indicator of IMPROVEMENT. Allow me to explain why. LSAC has thousands of tricks that they use. Some happen more than others. It takes time to learn these tricks and just because you learned a few new tricks or new ways of thinking on your most recent PT BR, that doesn't mean those aspects are going to be tested again in the next PT you do. It actually would make sense that ideas being testing on in, let's say, PT61, are going to be testing totally different tricks than those used in PT60, since the previous test may have been released for people to study it. For example, LSAC is NOT likely to put two 5 star questions with a very similar small trick in them, in sequential PTs. But some people take PTs in sequential order. So while you are actually improving, you are likely being tested on the areas you have yet to ever see. So please don't look at the final score and think THAT is the measure of your improvement.

Here is an optimistic way of thinking that helped me keep my drive, despite the scores: The more missed questions, the more opportunities I had to fix problems. The more problems fixed, the less problems I could potentially run into on test day if I ran into a similar question/topic.

The only aspect that should be celebrated or frowned upon are similar questions that you've studied before/have seen and now on this second time: 1) you recognized the similarity or not, 2) you got it right or not, 3) you skipped it or not (strategically) 4) you got it correct again, but faster or not. Situations like this are a direct measure of improvement and they are key to watch out for.

This community has helped me so much. So if anyone wants to chat about anything LSAT related, has any questions, or simply wants to vent, please feel free to DM me :D

What a journey this one was and I would not be in this position without 7Sage and the community.

Thank. You.

I know we can bring regular pencils to the exam (it's printed on the admission ticket) but can we also bring pens? Or is LSAC providing pens?

For the stylus/pen they are providing - is it a decent pen? As in, will we want to use it over the pencils so we don't have to go back and forth?

Also, just to confirm - we still can't bring mechanical pencils right??

I did PT 78 today (spoiler alert?)

I got stuck on a few LR questions I did not realize were difficult until I spent 2 minutes on them (I read the stimulus slow, but I only realize a qusetion is difficult once I get through all the ACs).

I also noticed the last RC passage was easiest, but was put off by the "science" topic (and I saw it had very few questions, so I figured it would be hard). I spent too much time on the second passage, which I found the hardest since I had no clue what was going on

I was hesitant to start the last passage because I did not want to be "jumping" aorund, or what if the last passage was harder? Did I waste all this time?

So, this sounds like a stupid question but -- how do you know when to skip? How do I know if an LR question will be easy or hard? Sometimes what looks easiest, given the stimulus and the passage, turns out to be the hardest, and vice versa.

I know when to skip games (think PT 77 game 3 lol yikes)

Does anyone have any advice on this issue? :)