HI Guys!

All the test centers in my province are saying they're "unavailable" but I've booked a seat, how does this work? Will I get a seat, because I've already paid... I'm freaking out...

Hi All, I'm racking my brain right now with these SA questions, and I would greatly appreciate the community's help. While I can sort of diagram out the right answer, I don't exactly get why certain elements don't work.

For example:

If the support states that:

Don't Sleep -> Tired -> Prone to Mistakes

and the Conclusion is:

Don't sleep -> Fired

Why is the Sufficient Assumption: "Prone to Mistakes -> Fired" and not "Tired -> Fired"?

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Curious your guys' opinions. I've just been going straight through the core curriculum. Anybody have tips for staying up on games and logical reasoning? I take a PT minimum once every other week. Should I be doing past core curriculum problem sets of LG and LR as well? Or should I be doing fresh problem sets from the question bank? Or neither, focus on Reading Comp., and keep taking my periodic PTs?

I had two sections of LG. THEY ARE RIDICULOUSLY HARD! I had no mental power left after those two sections!!! How do you guys feel about those two sections??

I am giving the LSAT on October 13th in India , and I am confused whether the LSAT here will be digital or not ? I don't want to be surprised on the test day because I am doing all my PT's with pencil paper .

Is anyone else planning to cancel their score?? What are the pros and cons of canceling my score this time? How is it gonna affect my admission process?

I took my test at American University (School of Law), and I was so surprised at how disorganized everything was. We weren’t even close to being seated at 8:30 am because they were still trying to figure out the tablet and wouldn’t let us in, and when we finally got into the room, they handed everyone their tablets one by one (there was like 40-50 of us so it took forever) and then their seating chart was messed up so it caused even more delays.

We started a full two hours late. IMO this is forgivable for the July exam (due to the special conditions and people knowing they would potentially walk into something like that), but not forgivable for a normal test where all the kinks should’ve been worked out and the proctors should’ve been trained properly.

We started at 10:30 am and many of us were fatigued from the anxiety of the last two hours. To make it worse, the proctor didn’t say “start”, he just started the exam and we all looked down and saw the timer going and panicked. (Someone yelled out “you can’t just start the exam without telling us”) but we all carried on, but it was so frustrating and just sad.

Should I report this to the LSAC? I really think the disorganization, lack of competence on the proctors’ part with the tablets resulting in a two hour delay, was a detriment to a lot of people.

I am putting this question out there, because after flagging this question and blind reviewing, I still got it wrong.

Currently, I am blind reviewing my process to improve my LR form, and I am also blind reviewing to address any gaps in understanding.

For this question, when it came to form. I felt pretty good

My steps:

For step 5, I was able to break down the grammar of the conclusion and the premise. But during the test, I could not see the gap clearly. So I flagged it. I was able to eliminate answer A, B, and C easily. I did not eliminate D and E. I came back to it and chose E.

Specifically, I chose E because the argument seemed to state that contemporary artists are mistaken, Mistaken about what? I presumed on their belief that their works enable many people to feel more aesthetically fulfilled. However, the premise focuses on "more great artworks" that human being could appreciate in a lifetime. So I thought I saw the gap, that the inability to appreciate work over a lifetime could not be lead to people feeling more aesthetically fulfilled.

As I read answer choices E, it seemed to match that during testing condition, but I am unsure it did during BR. Definitely, the difficulty in the answer choices factors in the difficulty of this question as well.

Let see if the flaw in answer E is actually evident in the stimulus

To paraphrase E: The argument assumes, without providing a reason, that the number (count) and variety (diversity) of great artworks already in the world affects (makes a difference to) the amount of aesthetic fulfillment derivable (coming) from any contemporary artwork.

It seems that E is incorrect, because it seems that it is not the number and/or variety of great artwork that makes a difference, it is the inability of human being to appreciate it all in a lifetime. So E seems wrong for the reason. But I still have my doubts on why E is wrong.

But although, I understand what answer choice D is saying. I have no way of understanding how the stimulus would be vulnerable to that criticism. Love to have a some help here clarifying this flaw question.

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Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-16/

The first question to the second game needs to be re-evaluated. I wasted so much time on this “easy” question and I still couldn’t figure out which one didn’t follow the rules. Anyone else had trouble?

Y'all. WTF was this test. LG destroyed me. I'm so upset.

I already have 2 cancels on record - 1 from 2017 when I had a panic attack during (lol) and the other from the July test because I saw my score and didn't like it and wanted the free October retake. I don't actually have an official score on record but I feel like there is a chance that today's score might be lower than what I cancelled in July.

Today's test was unexpected. I feel like if I cancelled today, 3 cancellations would look really bad-- but does it look worse than a terrible score because LG totally f*cked you? lololol

Thanks for the help!!

KJS

Hi everyone,

For those of you who are taking afternoon tests instead of morning tests, what is your test day routine like? Since the test "starts" at 12:30 pm (mine actually started closer to 2:30pm), how do you use the time between waking up and the test?

Hi All,

To quickly summarize:

I applied to law schools last year with a162 LSAT score, and a strong resume of federal government and political work. I got into most schools I applied to, receiving 50% - 70% scholarships from every school I got into.

I decided to decline all of my acceptances. I work as a political consultant for progressive candidates and campaigns around the country, and I felt that I needed to stay working in the campaign world for one more year. When I told my company I was leaving for law school, they gave me a huge promotion, which included allowing me to oversee all of the national political projects and campaigns that our company was working on. I was/am in a unique position to help candidates I support get elected, and causes I care about get brought to the national conversation. I'm glad I stayed. It's been the right decision.

That being said, I am reapplying because I want to keep my options open, and my doors open, just in case.

Clearly I feel that my applications and essays were very strong, as they resulted in me getting solid scholarships to the schools I wanted to go to.

My question is this: do you guys think I can re-use my personal statement and/or optional essays? How much do you I need to change? They personal statement was very strong and it worked out for me very well. I'd prefer not to have to change it, but I could see why that may look bad to an admissions committee.

Would REALLY value your thoughts here!

Thanks!

Any tips on choosing the RIGHT answer when you've narrowed the choices down to 2? Thanks!

Here's my dilemma. Most schools I'm applying to allow for a maximum of 4 letters of recommendation, but I have 6 and don't know which to select.

I am 1 year out of undergrad (i.e. will be 2 years out going into law school) and majored in History. I have FOUR history professors who have told me they will write me letters and who I know will write exceptionally strong letters for me (of the "one of my best students" kind). I also have a music theory professor who would write me a fantastic letter, which would be from a different perspective (though music, while a deep passion of mine, isn't directly related to my pursuing law). But since my post-college work experience is definitely relevant to my decision to go to law school, I also asked my former work supervisor to write me a letter. I'm fairly confident his letter would be positive, but if my professors' letters were 10s, I'm guessing his would probably be a 7 or an 8.

Just weighing them individually, I would definitely prioritize the ones from my history professors, but as a whole package I don't know if it would be better to mix things up a little. Thanks for reading this and I would really appreciate any thoughts/suggestions :)

I found on my first PT that a significant amount of answers I had gotten right during the initial timed test, I later went back and changed to the wrong answer during Blind Review. This wasn't just one or two questions, but many. Does anyone have any experience with this? Not sure how to feel about it, it's definitely not great. I'm not sure if I'm just second guessing myself too much, or if it's a deeper issue. Any advice?

How many LOR's should I send to Seton Hall?

They only require one and accept max 3.

I have from my employer and a professor. Another professor told me he's gonna write one, I'm just not sure when. Also they ask in the application how many LOR's I plan on getting, so I don't know what to put down.

Hi everyone,

I'm kind of an uncommon case and could not find an exact reply to my questions. So here we go:

I've got a 162 in the LSAT and a 3.4 undergrad gpa.

I moved to the US, because of my dad's work, when I was 15 and due to previous foreign education, skipped a few years and graduated with 16.

I had a basic level of English and where I come from nobody moves cities for Universiry nor is there any application process. Therefore I went to an ok public school.

I didn't know what to major in and choose a hard STEM major. I kind of struggled and once I changed to something I liked my GPA was better. Since I did now know when I had to leave the US i took summer school and finish my undergrad in less than 3 years.

After that, due to work restrictions I did an MBA where I got an improved GPA.

I have 5 nationalities, one of them Mexican and I use to have a green card. I've lived in 3 different continents and have travelled to 70+ countries so I'm quite international. Therefore I want to do international law (i'm open to either private or public.)

My questions are:

I'm applying to pretty much all the top 14 schools and if I don't get in I'll retake or rethink my career path.

I currently live in a very expensive country and cannot afford to take a few months to study for the LSAT.

I've been working for the past 6 years in private and investment banking for 16+ hours a day so I could not focus as much as I wanted. However for personal reasons I do not want to delay anymore my applications.

BTW I've received fee waivers for almost all the schools that I want to apply to and I think that I have excellent albeit work LOR's.

Thank y'all very much for your time!

Usually, I study 3-5 hours a day. But for the next week, due to some circumstances, I probably will only be able to get an hour in max, sometimes even split up throughout the day. What is the best way to make use of this time? 1 section a day and review?

I was thinking maybe foolproof 2 games, do 1 or 2 RC passages from the older LSAT PTs + review, and then maybe review some LR questions?

I have a long list of LR questions I have missed from my time studying that I couldnt get right during BR either. All in all, that seems like it might be close to an hour. 2 games, 1-2 RC passages, plus a few hard LR questions

Consistently in practice tests, my first section is my best with each subsequent section scoring worse than the previous. On the PT I just took, section 1 was LR and I got -3. Section 4 was the second LR and I got -11. I find that my stamina greatly diminishes after each section, especially with the digital test. It’s harder to concentrate, both on what the words mean and the screen itself.

Does anyone have any stamina tips for the digital test? Is it just practice? Also, is it possible that the two LR sections vary that drastically in difficulty?

Thanks!

I had a very minor fender bender (I was at fault) a couple years ago that resulted in no damage to either car, but as a precaution we both wanted to have a police report filled out in case something arose. An officer filled one out and that was all. No citation, no warning by the officer, no insurance companies were involved, and no further issues ensued. Do I report this on an addendum? I'm not sure what specific wording—if any—under which this would qualify with respect to a C&F question's language.

Thanks for any help or advice in advance!

For many of the longer user comments on JY’s video, they seem to be cut off. Usually, you can click something that ll expand that person’s comment, but for some reason that button isn’t there (I don’t see it), so I can’t read longer comments of people posting their own explanations. Anyone else have similar issue?

Hi everyone,

I am wondering if anyone knows when the Fall 2020 test dates will be posted?

Hey friends, quick clarification question for you #help.

In 17.01.G4, the rule "J is on the same team as K," translates as a forever together biconditional, where J ↔ K. Similarly, the second rule, "K is not on the same team as N," translates as a forever apart biconditional, K ↔ /N. In his explanation (see link below), it seemed like J.Y. was implying that this was because there were only two groups for the pieces to be sorted into.

Does this mean that a similar rule would not translate as a biconditional if there were multiple groups? If so, someone please explain this to me, because I don't understand why it couldn't be a biconditional in both game types.

17.01.G4 video explanation: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-1-game-4/

On the LR questions that are straight lawgic, a lot of times I have to write it out and translate it to get it right. For example I translate it to A ----> B etc. I score in the high 160s so I am wondering is this normal or is this a weakness of mine? And suggestions on improving?