Planning on taking the August Flex. Really want to improve on LG. How did you guys finish the LG Curriculum section? Did you foolproof each game 10 times in a day? If so how long was it since you seen improvements?

Please help!! I feel like I don't have structure when it comes to finishing the lessons for LG and practicing before August test date.

Has anyone noticed the "Some...." as a cookie-cutter trap answer choice for tougher strengthening/weakening questions?

(Disclaimer - I don't think this would work all of the time; and would actually love to look at counterexamples if anyone has any). But I think it might merit some additional attention/scrutiny if you are going to select an AC to strengthen or weaken an argument and all you have in your pocket is a some statement - kind of like going into battle with a BB Gun.

I think the reason for this is that some statements are inherently weak (or NOT powerful, in Loophole terminology). Some could be 1 out of 100 or 4 out of 2 trillion and unless the conclusion is conditional claiming that all As are Bs then its probably won't do much to claim that some As are /Bs. I could see this being particularly the case for causal arguments when there are potentially multiple and countervailing factors at play (as there almost always are).

For example, prolonged exposure to sun without sunscreen is known to cause skin cancer. If we wanted to weaken this argument for example, "some people who go to the beach everyday and never wear sunscreen will NEVER develop skin cancer". Well of course! There are always going to be a couple outliers but that doesn't wreck the fact that one thing (prolonged exposure to the sun without sunscreen) causally contributes to another thing (skin cancer).

I also think that the same reason that some statements make them incorrect (they are indefinite, vague and inherently weak) also make them appealing. After all, some could mean 99.99% but that requires the additional (and unwarranted) assumption.

Can anyone else validate this reasoning or rip it apart with an accompanying explanation? :)

I have been studying on and off for about a year and a half. My initial diagnostic was a 150. I recently graduated with a 3.91 as a Philosophy major and I worked while in school full time, so I studied for the LSAT when I had the time. I took the June 2019 test since we could cancel it after seeing out score, and I ended up cancelling (151). Initially, I wanted to go straight to law school from undergrad, but decided its best to take a year off and work and give myself a little extra time to study. I am registered for the August flex test, but I am really stressed and discouraged because my score isnt improving. The most recent flex practice tests I took were both 155. I really want to go to a T14, and every other component of my application is very strong. I am a URM, great personal and diversity statement, and a strong GPA. The LSAT is the only thing holding me back. Getting a 165 would make me a strong splitter, so that is my new goal (initially I was aiming for a 170).

I dont want to take another year off, but i really dont know how I can improve 10 points in less that 28 days while working full time as a paralegal. I want to apply as early as possible to improve my chances, so I am planning to send in my application mid to late September. I am contemplating also registering for the October LSAT and taking that if my August score is not good...but regardless, how can I improve 10 points when in a year and a half I barely improved 5? In my untimed sections I always feel confident about most of my answers, yet I still miss a good amount of them. It is very frustrating. I average -8 LR, -10 RC and -7 LG. English is also my second language and while that was never an issue in school, it seems to be a barrier here for some reason.

I started my studies off with 7sage a year ago, went through the CC but found that it didnt help me too much at the time. I then went through the Powerscore LR and LG books, which helped me build a stronger understanding of the basics, especially for LG. I drilled linear questions for LG, which helped as well. Since then, I have been doing timed and untimed practice tests(about 4 so far), but im not sure what else I can do to help isolate the main issue. I think improivng my LG will be the easiest, and RC the hardest. LR is what is tripping me up because I feel pretty confident when answering the questions, but obviously something isnt clicking. Through BR and looking back at the answers, I usually see where I went wrong with missing small details or inferences, but even if I understand that question, I continue to make similar mistakes on the next prep test. Essentially, I am looking for any advice at all for how some of you overcame a plateau, especially breaking into the 160s.

Sorry that this turned into a mini rant lol, I just feel very lost and discouraged and I really really want to go to a T14. Any help is REALLY appreciated.

I want my law application to highlight my work experience since it's an area of strength for me. Because of this, I want to ask my employer for a reference. However, I plan to continue working at my current job for the next year before starting school and am nervous that asking for a reference from my workplace could result in reduced opportunities at work or employment risk for me. I could, however, ask for a reference from a client executive I know well who recently left the company for another opportunity. How would it be perceived to submit a reference letter from a past executive from my company, rather than a current one? Also, does anyone have experience asking for a reference from a current employer who does not yet know that you plan to leave the company?

Hi 7Sage!

So Logic Games is my worst section in terms of reading the stimulus and rules and then articulating in writing the games onto a diagram on paper. My PTs score are highly affected by my inability to perform well on LGs. So as many people suggest, I printed out all the Logic Games from 6-35 (I already did PTs 1-5) and plan on working on those and foolproofing them. The problem is this process takes awhile, and i'm worried that just focusing on LG might affect my RC and LR studies. But I am desperate to improve my understanding of LGs.

My question is: should I take a month or two to just focus on PT LGs 6-35 with no PTS to improve my LG score, or just do some LGs here and there while still taking PTs?

(Btw, I do work full time from 8-5)

Thank you!!!

I’ve been studying for the lsat for some time now and I’ve peaked in early-mid 160s. Having a hard time figuring out how to increase my score and I only have about 10PTs left.

I’m looking for some advice. I know section breakdown is important so:

LG: -2/-0 wrong*dont need help with LG

LR: -4 wrong per section

RC: -6/-8 wrong per section.

I’m aiming for a 172+ and do think I can hit my score with enough work. I know I need to improve on RC, maintain LG and improve LR. But I need help with improving LR and after I study RC a bit more I may need help with that. I’m mostly looking for someone to help guide me.

Currently working part time but my job is working me more than that. I had to move home because of COVID and can take time off of work if need be. Ive considered taking about 3-5 months off of work just to focus on lsat full time.

Hi Everyone,

Currently working through the CC and getting ready to start taking practice exams soon. I was wondering if it's possible to add an extra (exprimental) section to one's PT's?? If someone has done this could you please explain how?

Thank you!

How similar is the digital LSAT to the PTs available on this site? i.e is their a timer in the corner and can you shade out answer choices?

Question for anyone who can answer: I completed an Lsat on July 2019 but subsequently cancelled my score and retook in January 2020 and kept that one. I was going to complete my lsat writing this month for this upcoming application cycle but do not have a launch link because I guess my first test was over a year ago and you get a year to do it, but I thought it was still attached to the specific test you end up using /don’t cancel so I thought since the only score I will be using is from January I would be fine.

Is this going to be a really big issue? I will call them tomorrow cause it’s a weekend but I am honestly worried that I won’t be able to apply this cycle because they are saying I did not do it on time and I believe it is still required. What do ppl think?

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Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a person or 2 to help keep me accountable to my study schedule. I've come to realize that I allow myself to slip up way more than I do when I have someone counting on me to get my stuff done. I've also found that groups with more than a handful of people isn't enough to keep me on track, so I'm looking for up to 3 people max to work with.

I have availability Monday-Friday from 11am-5pm CST. I've got a lot of fresh PTs, so I'm looking for people who are at the beginning of their PT phase to BR sections of LR & RC with 2-3 times per week. I'm aiming for a mid-170s score so I'd prefer to work with anyone who's aiming for a similar score. I'm planning on taking the November test or possibly even the October test if I see enough progress in 3 weeks.

If you're interested, shoot me a DM!

I listened to a few of the episodes of the 7Sage podcast and remember hearing someone talk about how they recording themselves taking practice exams. Has anyone else experimented with this? If so, how and what did you use to set up your phone/camera to watch yourself? Also, did you find it beneficial? Any other thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Hey... this summer has been whacked for my personal life and has gotten in the way of studying. So far, I've done 6 PTs. I typically score -12 on RC (rough life ik), anywhere from -8 to -3 on LR, and as long as I can get through the questions, perfect on Logic Games. Yet, the highest PT I've done was a 157. Today was a 155 (I didn't finish LG). What should I do? My Mom (who is not a lawyer nor knows anything about the LSAT truly), suggested that I write August and she would pay for October. Get two writes done. My struggle is, do I even try for August still? Please advise. Thank u sm.

Hi everyone, I hope your long weekend is going as good as mine with all this studying going on (simply fantastic). -_-

Just a bit of background, I've completed the Powerscore Bibles and am now going through the 7Sage core curriculum. When going through Sufficient and Necessary conditions, I had a quick question: how would you "draw" these two sentences?

No dog is funny (https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/basic-translation-group-4-flashcards/) - Group 4

There is no reward without hard work. (https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/basic-translation-group-3-flashcards/) - Group 3

Based on the CC lesson, "No" is the identifier for the first sentence, meaning we take either of the ideas (dog or funny), negate it and make it a necessary condition.

Based on the CC lesson for the second sentence, "Without" is the identifier for the second sentence, meaning we take one of the ideas "no reward" or "hard work", negate it and make it a sufficient condition.

My question is, why is the idea in the second sentence "no reward" but the idea in the first sentence just "dog"? Why doesn't the "no" negate the dog as well, just like it negates the reward, making it "no reward"?

Sorry if I confused you guys. :( Thanks so much!

What do you guys make of your BR score? Do you see your BR score as your potential timed score or is there always going to be a margin of difference between timed and BR? On my second PT I got a 156 timed, and 168 BR, so a 12 point differential. Have you guys found that you are able to close the gap between the two scores over time? Is there like a goal differential I should be setting for myself, such as 5 points or something?

I was asked by a tutoring place today to provide a copy of official score report. How do I get that? I cant see where to find it.

Before I begin, I think it would help if I stated my strong and weak points so that if they differ greatly from yours, you don't have to waste your time by reading this post (since it wouldn't help you much). I started studying for the July LSAT in May and even though this only gave me two solid months, I was confident it would be enough because I have very few skills but one of them is that I can motivate myself. If you can sit down and read a textbook for 5-7 hours straight, then the recommended 900 hours of studying for the LSAT would be overkill.

My strong points: Logic games (more specifically pacing myself), Logic Reasoning (more specifically finding the point of the argument and trap)

My weak points: READING COMPREHENSION... It haunts me in my sleep

My PT schedule:

The first few weeks I took a practice test once a week. I started in the 70's (just so I can start learning from the most recent tests and not just be introduced to them at the very end).

After 3 weeks I took a PT every other day. This lasted for about 2 weeks. In the 6th week of studying I took a practice test everyday, sometimes twice a day. (HOWEVER, since I was getting only 10-15 wrong each time, it didn't take me long to review the test and learn from my mistakes. If it takes you half the day to understand where you went wrong then you shouldn't take two PTs a day. Only take another PT after you fully understand where you messed up on the last one). This phase of taking one everyday lasted for about 2 weeks. (I took around 40 practice tests in total).

My resources:

I started with the powerscore LSAT bibles, I read 70% of all three and then realized I wasn't learning anything new. Also, I found out about 7sage way to late in the game. I think it was week 6 when I found them. I don't regret not starting with 7sage though, powerscore lays down a better foundation (in my opinion) so that when I started using 7sage I didn't feel the need to watch any of the introductory videos in the syllabus section.

After I took a PT, I would do a blind review and would treat watching a video of J.Y. explaining the problem as the last resort. Even if I got the question wrong on the blind review and looked at what the answer actually was, it benefited me to take time and try to figure out myself why that was the answer.

Logic Games:

Someone said you need to master this section first, before you do anything else. I completely agree, I spent the first 3 weeks 50% focused on logic games and 50% focused on LR and RC. It felt good to only be in week 4 but to have an average of -1 for LG. My tip for logic games is to try different ways to diagram. As soon as I started to diagram almost every game as a chart rather than just lines, I felt much more comfortable and my average score for that section went from a -5 to a -1.

Logic Reasoning:

As soon as I felt like I (just about) masted LG, then I moved on to logic reasoning. Most of my study time was spent on logic reasoning (I didn't know July was going to be flex). I didn't catch on to the "read the question first" strategy for the longest time because powerscore doesn't recommend it. Reading the question first really helped me, I also slowed down my reading and tried to focus on the minute details of the argument or set of facts. This is not a tip and it's not really helpful but its what honestly increased by score over the weeks: I started to gain an intuition for what the trick LSAC had up their sleeve was. I would read an argument and focus on a specific word or tone and I anticipated what the WRONG answer would be. I know a lot of LSAT study sources tell you to anticipate the correct answer (which is very helpful) but if you can find the knack for anticipating the trick answer, that will make you a million times more comfortable.

Reading Comprehension:

I barely improved on this section and it frustrated me to no end. The only tip I have, which I used in only the last week of studying, is to feel free to either not take notes, take copious notes or only take limited notes, whatever. I know LSAT tutors usually tell you to have a set strategy for note taking but I found it useful to just judge for myself based on the passage. If there was a science passage, I would take notes on the structure. If it was an art passage, I would maybe take notes on the different view points. For philosophy passages I always felt comfortable and never took notes. Point being, feel free to decide while you're reading the passage if you should take notes, you know best what will make you understand the passage.

Last week preparations:

This may sound like superstitious over kill but this was really important for me. I didn't study the day before the test and the morning of the test I did 8 LR questions and one LG to warm up.

The week before I only took 3 PTs and did minimal studying.

I had a planned breakfast (every time I took a PT I ate the same exact thing at the same exact time each day, just so I knew it wouldn't upset my stomach). In case anyone cares, I had a white cheddar babel cheese at 9:30 and my LSAT was at 10:30. I would wake up at 7:00.

(DISCLAIMER: You may find the next sentence corny and overly superstitious). I made sure to wear the sweater and socks I wore when I scored my highest PT score. That may sound stupid but it gave me comfort which means a lot on test day. To continue with the corny mental preparation, I watched the movie Marley & Me the night before because when I cry, it calms my nerves. I encourage you to wring out your emotions like a wet towel the night before your test. This will make you feel emotionally drained the next morning (too numb to be nervous) but your brain will be good as new.

Also, I started exercising to take a forced mental break while studying so I definitely put in a long workout the day before my test. My muscles were sore and tired which meant I wouldn't be fidgeting.

Lastly, I convinced myself that I didn't actually want to go to law school and that this was just for fun. I know that sound impossible and weird but it relaxed me and I focused more on the test and not on how I was doing on the test.

This was a long post but I really think you'll pick up at least a couple of useful tips, even if you're in the last week of studying!

Any tips for the last month to help improve LR section? I seem to be making the same mistakes on timed PT and I think it is because of time pressure and not the difficulty of question because I have a solid understanding of all question types. If anyone has any advise to do in the next month to get more comfortable by test day that would be hugeeee help.

Took the july LSAT and scored about 8-9 points lower than I was Pt'ing. Planning to retake in October, what are the best tips people can give me to make that improvement in the next two months to get up to 170 and not have the same underperformance

Hey all,

I'm going to be traveling and without wifi next weekend so I'm wondering if it's possible to access the tests and 7sage materials offline? Is there a way to download tests, problem sets and/or videos ahead of time?

Hi! I was wondering how do you flag questions while doing Preptests so that you can come back to them later? There are so many options on the upper side I am kinda confused.

Thanks!

Hi 7sagers! I'm currently averaging -1~-2 in LR. Recently I've been reviewing my old PTs. I think it would be great if I have someone asking me questions so that I can review my fundamentals. And also I hope this can help someone who cannot afford a tutor. I plan to do this tutoring once or twice a week until August LSAT. Shoot me a message if you're interested! Please briefly tell me your score range in LR, your weakness, PTs you've done, your availability, how long you've studied for the test ,and whether you have finished CC or not. I live in GMT+8 (ET+12hr), but we can definitely make this work. Thanks!

Hi all! I'm new to 7Sage, but have taken numerous tests directly through the LawHub Prep Plus subscription. I think my accounts are linked, but is there a way to import all the tests I have already taken into my 7Sage account so that they can be taken into account for analytics?

Thanks for your help!

Hello all,

I was curious to see if anyone else who has taken the flex scored slightly lower than regular PTs? Does the LSAT flex seem to generate lower scores? And is this the reason LSAC introduced the cancellation for the August LSAT? Let me know your thoughts please!!

Will admissions look at the lsat flex differently for the 2021 applications? I would not like to have to retake the exam a third time, so I would start my applications with my july flex score.