Hello everyone,

I found this to be an incredibly difficult question. I did get the question right, but I did not feel good at all about my answer choice timed or in blind review. I eliminated the other answer choices because they just seemed outlandish, but I really looked hard at the stimulus and can find precious little textual support for E. Why would it not be possible for the mussels to absorb some of the hazardous waste, but not necessarily become hazardous waste themselves? To me it seemed like that really was making an assumption. I can agree by using my real world knowledge that E would make sense, but in the world of the LSAT where tiny assumptions can separate correct/incorrect answer choices, I really felt that E was just asking me to go much farther than I was comfortable with.

Because of my doubts, I came incredibly close to changing my answer to D in blind review, and even now looking back I can still feel the doubts lingering. Is there something that is just going way over my head here? Does someone else see something in the text that clearly and demonstrably makes E the better answer choice than D?

Thanks so much!

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Hey everyone. I know someone who interviewed for Harvard in mid/late February and he has been eagerly awaiting a decision. If he was to be accepted, when is he likely to hear back by? Thanks!

I just want to say I'm so grateful that I found this community and these resources. I can't imagine prepping for this giant test with such unreasonable time limitations without it. Although it's super tough and frustrating at times, I feel like the concepts are gelling and I'm forming better habits every day. Go, team!

Hey all,

This might be a bit early, but I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about how 7Sage will update its curriculum & strategies heading into the Digital LSAT? How soon can we expect 7Sage to update its content to take on the digital version of the LSAT?

Hi Everyone,

I am facing significant challenges with timing on the arguments section. As of right now, It takes me nearly 20 minutes to get through the first 10 questions on each arguments section. On one section recently I got 10 right but had 8 blank and 7 incorrect.

I am increasing my understanding of question types from the core curriculum but it’s not translating into increased speed/accuracy/right answers when I take practice tests. Does anyone have any tips that actually worked for them and subsequently improved their timing? How did you increase your pace?

Thanks so much 7Sagers!

I'm currently scoring in the high 160s to mid 170s on the earlier PTs, but significantly lower (about 5 points) on the more recent PTs (60s and later). I don't have that many data points, but this is a trend I'm already starting to notice and since the recent exams are a better indicator of what the upcoming exams will be like, I'm inclined to put much more weight on the lower scores for an accurate gauge of where I am. I'm registered for the March exam, and I'm aiming for somewhere in the high 160s, and 170+ eventually (am tentatively planning to take a second time in July). I'd really like to close the gap and continue raising my score — has anybody had a similar discrepancy between the earlier and more recent practice tests, and how did you overcome it? Even within the two "categories" of practice tests, I'd like to close the gap so that I'm only fluctuating a few points rather than 5-6. Thanks in advance!

Hey guys, can someone please advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one sentence - do you pick one idea and negate necessary?

Does it have the same concept as when you see both group 3 and group 4 indicators in one sentence.

Example- If you cannot (cannot- group 4) swim you are not (not - group 4) a Koala Bear-

Do we translate it into Lawgic as [S arrow K] or is it translated as usual [s/ arrow k/]

Thanks in advance

M

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could give me a general direction to go in based on my history of PT's

I score in the lower to mid 160s and really want to get into the high 160s and possible over a 170. I have been studying since November, and am redoing the CC and lead a BR study group. However, I am scoring the same I was in November with usually around -22 for the exam. I don't know how my accuracy hasn't moved, and I always feel like I am at a standstill because I never know what to do to really feel like I understand the exam. I don't believe in having a LSAT limit on how well you can do, and I know I can get there with the right study methods, but I feel like I don't have that.

Walking out of PTs, I never feel like I do well even though I end up usually over a 160, which I know isn't bad. I just feel like I don't have a grip on the test/don't feel like I know what I am doing or how to study to increase my accuracy and break through the -22/-23 slump.

Could anyone give me suggestions on a possible study plan/ways to improve that are purposeful. A friend of mine suggesting just slamming PTs because he thinks its the timing, but I am a bit nervous about doing that considering I will probably take the exam in June or July, and want to finish the CC before taking more PTs. I also score usually around a 176/180 for my BR, so I know it isn't a conceptual issue.

Please help, thank you (3(/p)

Hi,

I have the premium course, but I don't think I have enough time before the LSAT in July to finish every single problem set (I'm at parallel reasoning now and work full time) in each section and still get a month or two of practice tests in. Is there a "suggested minimum" list of problem sets I could prioritize in each section? Or is it better to do every problem set in the CC and less practice tests?

Does the base course have the same problem sets?

#help

So, I got accepted to my number 2 choice today with a very good scholarship. I am thrilled about this, but it does create a conundrum.

For my number one choice, I wrote a "why school x" essay and ended it with "if accepted, I will withdraw my other applications immediately". at the time, I honestly thought i had a shot at number 1 and didn't think I had a shot at number 2 at all. the other schools i applied to are very distant for me compared to these two and the two schools are similar enough to where if school no 1accepted me but didn't offer me money, i would seriously regret having to withdraw from school number 2 and losing out on the scholarship money. I applied to school number 1 first, but haven't heard anything yet, it is currently "In Review" status. So my question is should I 1) withdraw from school number 1 now. 2) is there some other option that i am not seeing that is an ethical alternative?

thanks

I'm trying to improve on seeing the flaw in the premise but I can't seem to break the glass ceiling here. I can do the 1 and 2 star ones pretty well but my problems start to occur at 3 stars and up, and I end up going to the AC's blind which is not the right way to go about it. The easy cookie cutters I'm decent at, but ones like PT58.S1.Q18 give me fits because I can't quite "See it."

Any tips for helping to see it? I've been at this for a couple of years on and off so it is not a "I haven't seen enough", but rather I know its my approach mentally. Just would like a fresh perspective. Thanks!!!

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Hey guys,

I have been doing the fool proofing for games 1-35 and wanted to share what I do to save those trees.

I place two games in each sleeves (front and back). I do my drills like 45 mins as many as I can do. Note the time for each of them in the bottom corner. By the end of it. I erase the one that I need to redo and leave the ones I did good. This way you don't have to make 5 copies of each game. Just 1 copy and tadaaa!

I take the information and note it in a pdf sheet. This is a sample of the LG tracker. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L3TW5io8o7AMCoBDLvSFr8HupWJqYynq/view?usp=sharing

Hope this helps!

j/k

BUT I JUST BOUGHT INK TWO WEEKS AGO AND I RAN OUT PRINTING MY PREP TEST JUST NOW.

Didn't even think about it because there's no way I used that much in such little time. But there is a way, and it's called the LSAT. I estimate that I'll be dropping at least $200 on cartridges by the time I'm done with all of my PTs.

Well, off to Wal Mart.

Hi everyone - I am new here.. I am planning on writing the LSAT in September. I did a diagnostic...wasn't great. I bought the PowerScore Trilogy to better study the materials and just joined 7Sage to better grasp everything.

I also work full time and am finishing my undergrad full time as well. I am a mature student and I hope to apply in November and get in for Fall 2020. I know it's a long stretch but I am motivated to at least have a shot at this.

Anyone please help and let me know how I can get started to better prepare myself? Thank you!!

For LR, I'm officially scoring what I did before starting 7sage in January.

I began 7sage in january and made massive improvements in LR after the core curriculum. From Prep-test 36 through 38, I was getting just one to three wrong a section. On PT 36, however, my BR score (166) was only two points higher than my actual score (164), so I began to blind review in much more detail in nuance, revisiting parts of the core curriculum, and referring to the analytics tab on 7sage to help focus my studies.

However, I noticed that I was becoming more hesitant and more willing to circle questions, and the answers I gave to circled questions were more frequently wrong. I use to end each LR section with over 5 minutes to spare and around six questions circles, one or two of which would be corrected (my best overall performance was on Preptest 38, I scored a 166, with a 174 BR).By Preptest 40, I can barely finish an LR section, circle 8-12 questions, and end up correcting most of them.

I think this is best demonstrated in two timed drills I took from PT 73.

On section 2 in late February, I got four wrong initially, had circled 4, and corrected two.

On Section 4, which I took today, I got eleven wrong (many of which were not circled), and circled 12.

Does anyone have any other LR review methods besides Blind Reviewing?

I'm taking the March test and need advice. I thought I was in good shape when I stopped the core curriculum and truly believed the 7sage method, but now I feel like I wasted this time I took off to study for the LSAT (sorry for the mini rant).

So, I'm in a little bit of a pickle. I know I can score higher on the LSAT, and I'm still waiting to hear back from the majority of schools on my list. However, a few have admitted me with full scholarships. All of those are within the top 70-100 in terms of ranking to give you an idea of ballpark here.

Now, I know that increasing my score a few points and applying super early next cycle could better my chances for admission to some better ranked schools, but I just wanted to know if anyone had any insight or experience on if reapplying next cycle to some of these same schools that offered me full rides would hurt my chances at 1) re-admission and 2) similar scholarship offers from them.

I just took my first ever PT last week. After BR and scoring, I have gone through each question I missed, retried it, and watched the video explanations. I'm not sure what else to do before I take my next one on Saturday. Drill weak sections? Foolproof in my free time? Go back to hard problem sets? There almost seems to be so much that I could do that I'm left not knowing how to make the best use of my time.

What do y'all do as additional prep in between taking PTs? How do you make decisions on how to structure your time? Any input is much appreciated.

I am f finishing up FP 1-35 but I have neglected LR/LG for the most part lol. Should I jump into PT’s while doing LR sections on off days? Also considering going through the CC a third time.

Hi everyone!

I’m really having struggles with LR these days. I used to get a total -8 questions wrong in the 50s. But throughout the 60s, 70s, and 80s, I consistently got a total of 9-11 questions wrong. This plateau has started since September 2018...

I really focused on LR for the past 2 weeks and basically drilled all the question types I struggle with. (From PT 1-38) I took PT 68 a few days ago to see if I improved and got -14 questions wrong. (Sec 2:-9 sec3:-5) Why am I getting worse...:(

After blind review I was able to fix 6 answers, but it was still very discouraging to see this score. I don’t understand why I’m not improving at all. I don’t think it’s a burnout... My average is 165 right now. I also got a 165 on PT 68. I really need to get LR down to achieve my goal.

I always review the questions I got wrong and analyze why each answer choice is right/wrong.

These days I’m thinking that this is my limit and I’m just not smart enough to overcome this plateau...I studied full time for a little more than a year now.

Any advice or strategies from people with this kind of experience is welcomed!

Thank you.

So i’ve managed to improve my LR score to about 0-2 questions wrong per section. On good days I get every LR question right and on bad days I would get up to 3 or 4 wrong in total. I first finish the section in about 30 min and go back to the questions I circled as confusing. The thing is, when I solve questions I usually read every single answer choice (so even if I know that AC A is the correct answer, I would read B,C,D,E just to make sure). Sometimes, when i’m absolutely sure that the one I chose is the correct answer, I just skim through the rest of the answer choices, but I still spend time reading them.

What do you guys think about not reading the other answer choices once I choose an answer that i’m fairly sure is right? This way I would finish the section earlier and would have more time to spend on trickier questions. Right now I feel like i’m too nervous to do it but i’ve seen JY do it in his live commentaries and am thinking about it.

Has anyone tried this and improved their scores? Or should I still at least skim through every answer choice?

Wondering if it’s worth taking in March since I know everyone recommends to score higher than your actual goal in PTs. I've scored at/above my goal only 2 times, most of the rest (minus the first few PTs when I was still learning everything) have been within 5 points of my goal. I’ve already taken it once so don’t want a similar score to look bad. I'm scoring in the 93-96 percentile range so not much room for error lol

Hi Im new to this blog and would like to know if there are any suggestions on how to make accurate and complete (AS MUCH AS THERE ARE TO MAKE :-) ) inferences on this Logic Games section!

Thanks in advance.

Hey guys,

This is a burning question that's been bothering me since the beginning of my LR prep.

If you have seen PT64 S1 Q13 (joggers question) and PT73 S4 Q3 (skin cancers question) or would like to check them out, please continue reading.

In PT64 S1 Q13, the argument concludes that stretching doesn't help prevent injury because the group that stretched before jogging had the same number of injuries as those who didn't.

This is a weaken question.

We have Trap Answer Choice E, which states that in some forms of exercises stretching before engaging in an activity can reduce the severity of injuries. It is easy to eliminate E on the basis of "some forms of exercise" because we do not know that such a case includes jogging. But what if E had specifically mentioned jogging? Would it weaken the argument? Can the severity of an injury be a factor that contributes to the effectiveness of its prevention?

Similarly, in PT73 S4 Q3, the argument concludes that sunscreen lotions aren't effectively preventing UV rays causing skin cancer because the average number of the people who get skin cancer is as great for people using sun lotions as those who don't.

This is a flaw question.

Trap Answer Choice B says that the argument fails to see the difference between the number of cases and the severity of the cases in evaluating the effectiveness of skin cancer prevention.

One clear way to eliminate B is to realize that B does not pinpoint which group's skin cancers were more severe. If B had said that the argument fails to consider that the group without sun lotion had more severe cases of skin cancer, would it be the flaw of the argument?

I think the decision to accept modified versions of both PT73 S4 Q3 and PT64 S1 Q13 depends on how we understand the definition of prevention. To evaluate whether prevention of a disease/injury occurred effectively, is it sufficient to ONLY focus on the number of injuries/disease prevented OR do we also need to take into account whether any reduction in the severity of such disease/injury occurred?

In my opinion, measuring the severity of an injury does matter in assessing the effectiveness of a preventive measure.

If a thousand people who used sunscreen lotion developed stage 1 skin cancer but the same number of people who didn't use sunscreen lotion developed stage 4 skin cancer, the argument would be weakened because the sunscreen lotion indeed was effective in blocking a worse form of skin cancer. It would be unreasonable to say that sunscreen lotion wasn't effective in that case.

All in all, what is meant by effective prevention? Does it have it to be complete 100% prevention (as in no instances of injuries, whether severe or light) to be properly called effective prevention?

Thank you so much for reading my painful thought process. Please help!

Did anyone who took the test 3+ times take it at the same center each time? I'm going on my fifth take and kind of feel insecure about taking it at the same place. Perhaps taking it at another test center would provide a beneficial change of scenery for me. With that said, the test center at which I've taken it every time I've taken it is quiet and professional, and is at a smaller university that typically doesn't have a huge group, so it's mostly insecurity that is causing me to consider trying a different test center. I also, when I'm being rational about this, don't think it's likely that where I take it has much significance compared to the quality of my prep, but it still is something that has come to mind. Should I just suck it up and go for the one that I already know is good?