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I have taken a few weeks to focus on admissions stuff, but the September LSAT didn't go well for me. I panicked on RC and the first LR, i have always had pretty severe test anxiety and it really hit me hard on test day. I did okay on the second LR and after the break i calmed down and the last two sections went fine. All in all I expect to be about ten points or more below a good practice test, which is obviously quite disappointing.

Overall though, its not a big deal. Writing in September was an important experience, and i'm looking forward to seeing my score so i can review and see what I can improve on. Pretty much thanks to reading and exploring these forums I have come to realize that writing more than once, although not ideal isn't a big deal either and what is important is showing long term improvement. I have been forcing myself to read an old economist front to back every day and the last few days i started prepping again, I did two timed RC sections and scored -3 on each, tied for best two scores on timed RC so far. I'm optimistic i can really do well in November, I feel way less anxiety and I will be more prepared. If anyone else bombed September just wanted to let people know there's other people out there in the same boat and looking forward to crushing November with whoever decides to write then! I remember after the test i found solace in reading other peoples horror stories and realizing i'm not alone in my bad test so i figured i would pay back now, right before scores are released. Goodluck!

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Hey future lawyers,

I will be applying to a few schools in New York this cycle. I was wondering where do these students live. Housing in the city is unreasonable, and the commute from other burrows can be quite far. Do students just take out loans for housing? Plus it seems like most NY schools don't provide housing. What's going on NY law students?

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Thursday, Sep 27, 2018

Lost my PT scores

Hi,

when i upgraded my 7sage account, i seem to have lost my scores for PTs I took prior to upgrading.

Can i get it back for records?

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Yo so I have a question about the "Education" Section of some schools' applications. For instance, Harvard asks you to "list the academic honors, awards, or other recognitions you have received."

I was an almost straight-A student, so I got Dean's List (GPA of 3.50+), Provost's Honor Roll (GPA of 3.75+), and President's Honor Roll (4.0) nearly every semester. But am I actually supposed to list all of these? It seems really redundant to have 20 entries all saying the same thing ... wouldn't these show up on the transcripts anyway?

Also, if anyone is in Phi Beta Kappa, what did you put for the "description"? Just "Honor Society"? There's a pretty small character limit. Same question with summa cum laude----"top 5% of class"?

I know these questions may be dumb and I might be nitpicking, but I just want to make sure I'm doing this right ...

Thanks for all the help guys

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Hey guys, so some schools ask you to list the other law schools that you're applying to. Some say it's optional; others don't specify, but still allow it to go unanswered.

Do you guys answer this question? I feel like listing other schools could backfire if an admissions committee interprets it as a lack of specific interest in their particular school.

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After practicing some timed tests, I've finally accepted that I won't be able to do every single problem and have to learn to give up some problems. So what type of problems do you guys skip? Like what's your criteria to skip a problem and how long does it take you to make that decision?

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I'm probably getting caught up over trivial details, but what do you guys put for "Step two: Describe the file" when submitting your personal statement on law school apps? Just "Personal Statement"? Same question for "Why School X"/"Why Lawyer" essays.

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Hi there!

I have printed out all of the problem sets after each lesson and I went through all of them and watched the video explanations on this as well. My question is - do you recommend me also going through the question bank as well? I'm not sure if I should start practice tests now or continue on to the question bank after completing all pdf problem sets.

Thank you for your help!

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I was listening to a podcast about law, and the topic for that episode was how tech was impacting law. Most people agree that tech will reduce law opportunities and jobs in the future, and increase competition, but one exception was if the employee was properly trained in using new technology in law. The analogies I imagined when they mentioned this was a financial analyst who is a master in excel and python, or a industrial designer who is proficient in AutoCAD or Rhino.

So my question is if you guys know any schools that focus on teaching their students the newest in law-tech? I know northwestern has a few programs that introduce law tech to students, but I can't find anything for other schools.

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Hey guys!

I was hoping someone could possibly shed some light on this question. My break down of the stimulus is:

Conclusion: all whale- hunting should be banned

Premise 1: a ban on the whaling of endangered species cannot be enforced without banning the whaling of all other species

Premise 2: hunting endangered whale species should be banned

When I read the explanation in the book, they mention that premise 1 tells us that “a choice has to be made: either we do without an effective ban on the hunting of endangered species or else we ban the hunting of nonendangered species. The argument comes down in favour of banning the hunting of nonendangered species but provides no justification for preferring this choice over the alternative”

The problem I’m having is that I initially viewed that as a conditional statement. I dont see how we could chose between two options.

Any insight on this would be super helpful!

Thanks guys! :)

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Hey guys, so Necessary Assumptions I was having problems with, but finally I fixed that!! But now these questions are so annoying. I feel like they are time traps for sure, and if I follow the trying to match similar phrasing of the conclusions and premise, I feel I waste alot of time and it distracts me from the point. Do you like to change the stimulus to ( A B C etc) or do you just take note of the stimulus format? If possible, if someone can tell me their thought process in attacking these problems, where we dont kill so much time! That would help so much! Thank you!

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I am rereading PS Bible for MSS/MBT and encountered this statement (FYI; I am using 2017 edition; page 122)

The statement is "many people have some type of security system in their home"

PS classifies this reverse statement "some people have many type of security system in their home" as wrong;

while reading, I did have the sense that the statement is wrong; but I am interested in the logic behind this reversal;

I thought many is some; wouldn't these two statements be the same or am i missing something?

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Hello 7Sagers!

I am wondering if someone could give me advice about what they think is the most efficient way to retain and review lR material. I want to create something that I can review everyday and that in the end will help me put all of the pieces together. So far I have been writing notes from all of my lessons, and then I rewrite them to make them look neater. I want to kind of create a cheat sheet for all of the things I am learning in the LR section.For example: I have a sheet on MBT questions. Am I doing too much? Is there a better way?

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Hi Forum,

I will be applying to Canadian schools given that my fiance has received a job offer in Ottawa. I am American and completed my undergraduate degree at a top public university and have an MBA from an Ivy League institution. Is anyone here applying to Ottawa and/or Toronto law? If so, can you share insights on these schools? There are limited rankings in Canadian law schools given that their system is completely different from the U.S. Thank you so much.

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Here's my perspective (for the 2017-18 app):

It is clear that we should all do as many practice interview questions as possible. But honestly, I didn't feel like it helped all that much. I spent 2 days searching up questions and preparing for them, but only 2 questions on the actual interview were on the 10+ pages of of questions I prepared. And even when it was a similar question, they worded it differently such that I could not use my prepared responses and had to rephrase them. This, combined with my nerves from not having been interviewed for about a year, made me run out of time for almost every question, even though I thought I had given myself some leeway. Additionally, I wasn't very certain, because I may have simply mis-remembered, but I felt like they mixed up the time allotted to you for the questions, for example: during a practice session, a question was given for the long answer response section, but during the actual interview, it was given during the short answer response section, and threw me off completely.

Do any of you have insights on this interview that you would like to share? I would appreciate any thoughts and advice =).

Here are some reflections from my interview last year:

Have a phone timer on the side.

My browser didn't beep when the time was up, because I clicked off of it.

Be even more concise than you think was necessary, and be able to answer every answer within 45 seconds, but be able to expand on it if necessary.

Practice table topics, instead of preparing responses.

Begin each response with a conclusion in mind.

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Hey All,

A question regarding LOR's...

I already have 2 professors that know me somewhat well who are writing me an LOR. One professor taught one of the classes for my major. The second taught a course related to racism and the law. With that said, I have been working at a firm for some time and the head attorney is also willing to write me an LOR. Should I request one from him as well for my 3rd LOR?

I understand most law schools prefer/request only 2 LOR's and have thus heard conflicting things.

Thank you all in advance!

**Edit: typo.

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Hello,

Just for fun tell us what's your dream school regardless of your finances, GPA, or test scores. Then 3 reasons why that school(s).

My dream schools are Columbia or NYU.

Columbia

  • In New York, Close to Harlem
  • They have excellent faculty and a wide range of classes
  • Ivy League with strong connection and a beautiful campus
  • NYU

  • In New York, I love the Village area
  • Excellent faculty and wide range of classes
  • Strong BALSA Community
  • Admin note: edited title, no all caps please

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    I have heard and read conflicting things about SLS preferring a targeted LOR. Some people swear that if you don't have them, you're not going to get in, but others have reported not having them and still having been admitted.

    I just checked Stanford's admissions website and they state, "Stanford requires that at least two and no more than four letters of recommendation be sent directly through the LSAC Letter of Recommendation Service. Letters sent directly to the Office of Admissions will not be accepted. Please be aware of the high value Stanford places on school-specific letters of recommendation. If you choose to provide us with a targeted letter, please be sure to assign the appropriate targeted letter to Stanford Law School. Recommenders should be instructors who have personal knowledge of your academic work, preferably those who have known you in a seminar, small class, tutorial program or the like. If you have been out of school for a significant period you may substitute one letter from an employer or business associate. Sometimes these applicants find it difficult to obtain even one academic recommendation; in that case, you may submit two nonacademic letters. Please advise recommenders that should you choose to apply for a joint degree and/or other programs at Stanford University, the letters of recommendation may be forwarded to that program for review."

    I have not yet made requests to my recommenders to create targeted letters for Stanford, but I already have two recommendation letters on file. My concern is that if neither of my recommenders has a strong connection to SLS, then their targeted letters may sound insincere. However, I don't want to hurt my chances simply because I didn't request these professors make a targeted letter for Stanford. Making the additional requests to my recommenders would likely delay my SLS app by several weeks. One of my recommenders received her PhD from Stanford, but she has no ties to the law school.

    Any input is welcome. I'm curious to hear how others are handling this, as Stanford seems to be the only top school that explicitly states a preference for targeted letters.

    Also, for context, my GPA is between their 50th and 75th percentiles, and my LSAT is above their 75th percentile.

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