I’ve noticed a significant increase in difficulty while drilling LR sections from PT 42-51 compared to those from PT 29-38. Do the LR sections get more difficult? I’ve read that some people think they do and others don’t notice any difference. I guess I’m asking you guys to resolve this apparent paradox for me. If there is a difference, then hopefully it will expose a weakness in my fundamentals.

I forget?! Thanks!

The last center I had had a clock. Do you think I should run to walmart and get an analog one or chance it?

Hi everyone, I just began 7sage and got 146 as a diagnostic score. Im hoping to get to at least 165 or above on the actual test next year. Ultimately, i want a good enough score to get a full tuition scholarship preferably to UF or FSU... Im planning on studying from late august 2018 and into 2019, to take the june and july tests. any advice?

Are the conversion charts at the end of each PT the same for every test? Or are they adjusted for the curve for that particular test. For instance, I got a 68 on PT 37 which translates to a 156 according to the conversion chart. However, I checked the score with another converter online and a 68 was a 159.

Anyone know which one would be right?

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 84 (June 2018 LSAT) RC only.

There will be two sessions total. One for passages 1 & 2 and one for passages 3 & 4.

All sessions will start at 8:30p and end at 10:30p ET.

What happens in these sessions?

We'll read the passage together, paragraph by paragraph. I'll ask you to make low resolution summaries of each paragraph. We'll use those low res summaries to build higher resolution summaries. Then, we'll answer the questions together.

How should I prepare?

Have a clean, unmarked copy of the PT ready in front of you so we can read and answer the questions together. Please wear headphones and try to be in a quiet place.

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Obtaining PT 84

If you have an Ultimate+ account, you will be able to view and print PT 84 under the Syllabus. If you are enrolled in Starter, Premium, or Ultimate, you can also purchase PT 84 as an add-on to your existing course here.

Past Sessions

7/23 Monday - RC - passages 1 & 2

7/25 Wednesday - RC - passages 3 & 4

Hi guys I just wanna get some opinions on my BR vs regular scores. I’ve taken only 2 PTs so far and these were the scores:

Test 1 Timed: 149

Test 1 BR: 153

Test 2 Timed: 145

Test 2 BR: 158

My goal is to be at 160 or higher. I was kinda disheartened to see my already low initial score decrease but I was also surprised that my BR score was that much higher? Any advice on what I can take from this, what this means and where to go from here?

Thanks guys

Hey, thanks for stopping by.

So here's the deal. I got through my first PT. As I took the PT I circled all of the answer choices which I was uncertain of (as is suggested by 7sage). For each section, I noticed that I circled about 2/3 of the questions -- leaving about 8 answers uncircled.

My score somewhat reflected what you might expect from a first time PT. I got a 148. I went back an did BR, typed in my new answers -- and the score hardly moved at all. It only went up to a 151. Here's the thing -- I found that in one section I got all of the answers wrong that I DIDN'T circle. Does this make sense? So basically the questions I was most certain of were the ones that I got wrong.

Has anyone else shared in a similar experience (especially of this magnitude)?

Thanks for any time

Thomas

Hi everyone,

Not really sure where to post this, but admissions seemed like the most appropriate spot. For those of you who have been admitted to law school or are currently attending school, how did you handle "imposter syndrome." I am currently in a year-long fellowship program with cohort members that are vastly more qualified, both in a professional and academic sense, than I am; navigating the dynamics of these relationships is both new and somewhat overwhelming. It seems like I always "have to be on," and am constantly trying to prove to myself that I deserve a seat at the table. I'm sure dynamics at law school, especially @ T14s, are similar and I was wondering how people dealt with feelings of subtle inferiority.

I was just wondering if anyone has taken all LSAT practice exams? I am planning to take June's 2019 LSAT test but I still believe that it will be very hard to complete all those exams. I am planning to start taking practice tests in December since I believe that by then I would have learned everything from 7sage and I also think I will take 2 quarters off of school since I am ahead in units. So ill have 6 months to take a practice test every other day, and I was wondering if anyone has done that and if that is doable. Also incase things don't go as planned, is it possible to take a practice test everyday or is that just overkill?

The title pretty much says it all! Wondering if I should commence "chilling" tonight, or if I can just take the day tomorrow to relax. I feel like since I do have a fresh PT left, I should make use of it. I've already taken the LSAT twice (Sept 2016 & 2017), and I finally feel confident in my average PT scores for test day Monday. This will be my last time taking it. Any guidance in general on what I should be doing tonight / tomorrow is appreciated! Thanks all. And good luck to everyone taking it in 2 days!

If anyone is interested in meeting semi-regularly to review RC passages/question types they find especially difficult let me know and I can organize a group.

Hey everyone,

Our new 7Sage blog is live, and we just posted our first article: Does Attending a T14 School Really Matter? This is a well-researched piece written by our own @Christie Belknap. Check it out!

I have such a hard time with Logic Reasoning no matter what the question types may be. I read the stimulus and understand it for the most part and pick the "correct" answer confidently, then do a blind review, but, when I review my answers I am almost always wrong. Once I watch JY's explanations of the questions I can see clearly why I picked the wrong answer choice - and it is for the most part a stupid mistake from either reading the passage incorrectly or the questions.I have tried to improve by slowing down and even reading the questions and possible answer choices multiple times, but that hasn't been helpful as I am still going with my gut and picking the wrong answer choice.I am really good at Logic games and fairly good with RC - but I can't seem to improve on LR. Any suggestions?

I'm going to vent a little bit on here. At the start, I took the initial PrepTest June 2007 and got 144. I missed 51 questions then. Now, I took my first PT 62 from December 2010 and got 144. I missed 57 questions. I feel defeated. My logic games did go up, so I am happy about that. I just want to prepare effectively for September and I am not sure whether I should take Kaplan? So far, I just finished the CC and took the first test, so maybe I need to do the drilling too. What suggestions do you have? Thanks for the help, guys!

Hello fellow masochists,

After a year of studying off and on, I took the plunge and signed up for September. Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me get my time down on LR (bad) and LG (worse).

The fundamentals seem to be there, as I'm averaging 170+ untimed (-1 on LR, -2/3 on RC and -3-4 on LG). I have tried everything (skipping answer choices once I find the answer, minimizing rereading, etc.) but still am 3-4 minutes over on LR and 8-10 minutes over on LG. Recognizing the inferences too late in the games is probably the main factor, in addition to my ADHD.

I have burned through PTs up to 58 so far, so about 25 left. It is crunch time now, and I really don't know where else to turn besides maybe redoing the course (completed about 6 months ago)??

Any suggestions are appreciated, and good luck to fellow Septemberererers......yes, I am losing my mind. jk. but actually.

RC is about the last section I really need to make some improvement on. I'm happy with my accuracy on all of the passages that I do (they are between -0 and -2) but I also only make it through 3 passages within the time restraints. Does anyone have any experience with doing RC faster? Any help would be appreciated.

Hello,

I am currently 19 years old. I worked my butt off and took 60 credits of college classes from a community college while I was in high school, which all transferred to a large public university. I'll finish undergrad in May 2019, two years after I graduated from high school. Ideally I would like to go straight from undergrad to law school, which means I'm applying to law schools this coming fall. It also means that I have had only one year out of high school to actually work on extracurriculars and such, and because of that, the Experience and Activities sections on my resume after high school are pretty much nonexistent. I shined Activity-wise in high school (Student Body President, Honor Society President, Valedictorian, leader of a Youth Nonprofit for multiple years, part-time job, etc.), but David has said repeatedly not to include high school accomplishments. My undergrad GPA is a 3.93, and I am currently PTing right at or right below the median for my target law schools. I am practicing full time before my LSAT in September.

I just want to know, do law schools care about how young I am? Does applying at age 19 hurt, help, or even have any effect at all on my chances for getting accepted? Does a lack of Experience and Activities on my resume hurt me, or will law schools be understanding given that I've had only one year out of high school? Should I use my Personal Statement to explain my circumstances, or would it be smarter to write an addendum? I feel like my age would be a good narrative for my Personal Statement, but what do you guys think? Any answers or advice would be greatly appreciated :)

Hey everyone- just looking to see where people put their purses / bags / phones during the actual test . I heard some proctors or most just let you put them at the front of the class (I know it’s a luck thing ) as I’ve heard it both ways. What did you do on test day ?

Hi Friends,

I'm calling upon the collective wisdom of the 7Sage community.

Long story short, I don't feel prepared for Monday's test. I haven't taken enough PTs and I'm not at a place where I feel comfortable with timing, etc. I work a full-time job, as a lot of 7Sage folks do, and I haven't put in the study hours that I'd like to.

I'd like to start law school in fall 2019. What do you all think - should I withdraw from the July test and take September's test or just go for it knowing that I'll likely need to retake it in September? I feel a bit stuck because even if I withdraw and take September's test, that still doesn't leave me a lot of time considering I will still have a full-time job.

Thanks Everyone.

I just completed the Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis Question section in the CC and have a few questions regards the content in there before I move on to Strengthening Questions. I'm first of all curious as to if those who have completed the problem sets did so in a timed manner (1:24) or if you took time on each question within each of the 15 sets to try and find the answer? Any additional info/different perspectives would be greatly appreciated!

hey all,

so I've heard from @"Cant Get Right" and others the importance of doing confidence drills for LR.

I was wondering if you guys did confidence drills for RC?

My guess is that confidence drills helps people with pacing, speed, and confidence. I think those skills are also very important in RC, as well as in LR. So i was wondering if ppl had experience doing confidence drills for RC, or if they have any advice or suggestions?

thanks.

Hello! First, I hope all of your studying is going or went well.

I am applying to Canadian schools this fall and I am writing the LSAT on November 17. I am worried that this date will put me on the later side of the applicant pool and hurt my chances. My GPA is not great, although I have a solid explanation for my poor performance during my first year and a good trend line during my last three. I have good professor recommendations and I am planning on scoring in the 165+ range.

I know that most schools in Canada have a November 1 application deadline. Please let me know if you have any information!

Thanks!

I love you 7Sage

Hi all! I'm thinking about writing an addendum because my academic history is a little unorthodox. Considering the addendum is disliked, I wanted to get all of your opinions.

In high school I had a 3.92 weighted GPA. When I was studying for the SAT in 2012, I studied as hard as I could, but it was no use. I took a practice test and received a 1440/2400. Considering the predictive value of the SAT and future success, I was discouraged from even applying to colleges. I didn't take the SAT because I didn't want to waste money to confirm a low score and directly enrolled in a community college. When I was accepted as a transfer student to UC Berkeley I was terrified because high school was more rigorous than community college. However, I worked two jobs and graduated a semester early with a 3.92 GPA. My high school GPA was coincidently a direct prediction of my UC Berkeley GPA and future success.

When I took my first LSAT diagnostic I received a 138. I spent the next 6 months studying and in September 2016 I received a 147. I was devastated, but I continued studying because I was determined. I was working a full time job, with a 2 hour commute, and spending a minimum of 3 hours a day studying during the weekdays. (Weekends, of course, I spent 4 hours minimum.) I continued this schedule for a year and half until I took the June 2018 test and received a 161. Although this is a great score, I'm still convinced it's not reflective of my abilities*

My issues include:

My goals:

*Before, I hear another retake argument, I think it is safe to say that studying the LSAT for a total of 2 years is as good as it's going to get. I've memorized all the practice tests and taken them multiple times.