It's a good read and hopefully it will motivate some of you like it did for me for some reason.

https://psychology.berkeley.edu/news/intense-prep-lsat-alters-brain-structure

Check out this interesting article from The Economist!

https://www.economist.com/business/2018/07/14/law-firms-climb-aboard-the-ai-wagon

What kind of camera/camera setup do you find most useful?

Title says it all. I bombed the June LSAT (159) vs. my average preptest scores of 169. I attribute this decrease to a few factors: nerves, primarily, and the fact that my preptests were all generally older tests, so I had little exposure to the most recent exams. I've since purchased preptests 62 - 81, I use 62 - 71 as drills and 72 - 81 as full exams. Beyond that, I did not do 5 section tests and am doing that for all my full practice exams (2x a week).

My drilled sections are still timed, I'll divide tests 62 - 71 into sections, which I'll time myself through to completion. The only difference between these "drills" and a full timed test would be that a full test conforms exactly to the structure of the real LSAT, so fatigue becomes a factor.

Has anyone else had a similar decline in prep vs. actual scores? Further, do you feel it's reasonable to approach my practice scores by the September sitting? Initially my scores for 62-71 were lower, but have recently climbed up into the 169 range, and my full exam marks are still a bit lower, 163-167 range. (Fatigue is evidently a major factor for me!)

Can someone please provide me advice as to how to tackle these questions. I am getting really discouraged because I cannot map out the logic for the question stems or if I do map out my logic paraphrase doesn't match the answer. When I was doing the quizzes in the lessons it was clicking for me but when I got to the actual lsat problems I am starting to struggle and I am really struggling with mapping out the logic.

I recently attended 7Sage's webinar hosted by (I believe) David Busis, where he talked about international students applying to US law schools. An interesting thing he talked about was that international students face a disadvantage when it comes to law school admissions because of a variety of reasons, including GPA conversion, language, and financial issues. However, I am not sure if the same applies to my case. I am an international student studying at top liberal arts school in the US (which means that I won't have language or GPA conversion issues). In this situation, would I still be at a disadvantage, solely based on the fact that I am not a US citizen?

So in some of the 7-8 question RC passages I'm getting -0 or -1, and in others, I'm getting -4 or -5-- even on the passages I find moderately interesting. The problem is that I really think that my answers are correct while I'm choosing them. Any suggestions?

Hi everyone,

I'm just wondering if anyone has any insight as to the value a master's degree holds in the admissions process? I personally have trouble with the LSAT but my undergrad GPA is fairly high and I have a 4.0 GPA from a master's degree. I'm hoping that I can rely on this at least a little but if anyone knows what kind of value it holds, any insight is greatly appreciated! In case it changes anything, I am applying to Canadian law schools.

Thank you!

Hi!

Does anybody know how long letters of recommendation are good for once uploaded to the LSAC website?

Long story short I had to postpone applying until this year after I already had asked for and received my LOR on the LSAC website. Do I need to ask them to send them in again, change the date on their letters, or anything else?

Thanks for the help!

For the past several weeks I've found recording my PTs quite helpful.

But I'm curious if people have any strategies they follow when reviewing their footage? Are their specific aspects that you focus on?

At the moment, I have two main aspects of my review.

First, I record my times for each question to try and focus on which questions I struggled with, even if I was confident I had the right answer once I selected it. This has been helpful because, then, I go ahead and review those questions more in-depth even if I got them correct under timed conditions. Second, I try to keep a notebook of various observations about my strategy, trying to tweak my timing to be more parallel to my confidence level (e.g. I can tell from the footage that I was 85(ish)% sure that I had the right choice after A (and did), but I spent too much time closely reading the other answer choices.).

Are there other techniques that people have used that they find helpful? @"Cant Get Right" , I was listening to your AMA the other day, and you seemed to be a strong advocate for video recording/review. Any suggestions?

Thanks, everyone!

and I bombed it. I'm not shocked because I knew when I finished LR and LG that I wasn't solid in my understanding of the methods, rules, etc.

so, now that I know for certain that I can crush the RC section (it's always been a strong suit - I'm an avid reader) but I need serious help in the LR and LG sections, how should I proceed with studying? re-watch the videos? drilling both? flash cards? I'm taking the September test so I have a little less than two months to improve in these areas.

(I should add that I have not done BR yet - I have no idea what questions I got right or wrong, I just looked at the overall score and which sections I need the most help in. I will do BR tomorrow or Monday - my test questions are all circled and ready for it.)

Hi everyone,

I am really struggling with Parallel Method of Reasoning Questions. I just finished the CC lessons on it and I feel like I still don't have them down in terms of timing and/or the method. I feel like I spend way too much time on them and I am considering skipping them when I see them on the real test so that I don't let them turn into a time-suck.

Interestingly enough, on my diagnostic I got all 2 of the Parallel Method questions correct...so idk why these problem sets are such a struggle. It often feels as if I don't even understand what the stimulus is trying to tell me...like I get confused and stressed by these questions.

Thoughts? Advice? Opinion on skipping these questions?

Either way, I think I'll come back to these lessons in a couple of weeks when I feel like I've thoroughly forgotten them...

I’ve been using low res summaries , drilling timed and untimed . And developing an annotation strategy . My rc score keeps going up and down (I know this can depend on the passages ) . I seem to struggling the most with Law / science passages . How were y’all able to implement a consistent score with rc ? I’ve also been keeping track of reasoning errors. I know some people swear by reading material other then rc but I did some research it seems like a waste of time because rc passages are structured a certain way . Feel free to challenge that !

Hi all! I have been studying for the LSAT for a while, and recently switched from doing PT in the 50's to the 70's. Unfortunately, my scores dropped from 170-173 to mid 160's. My reading comp took the biggest hit. I used to miss 0-2 in reading comp, but it definitely got significantly harder. Feeling a little beaten down, does anyone have any advice on how to pick back up? I am missing about 7 per section now. I am thinking of maybe leaving the comparative passage for last? The questions definitely got a lot tougher in the more recent tests...

Any and all advice/personal experiences moving from older to newer tests is greatly appreciated!

Hello fellow LSAT studiers/7sagers, gust wanted to hear peoples thoughts on study habits for full time workers and those who are also married and studying. What are some of the schedules people stick to, study habits, or ave. hours one may put in weekday vs weekend? Also any guidance on ensuring your spouse gets attention while also giving you space and support one may need for studying for this crazy exam? Any guidance or advise on these topics would be much appreciated!

As for me, I intend on sitting for the January LSAT. I started studying at the beginning of this month and have been putting in 2 to 3 hours a week day (Mon - Fri) and 5 to 8 hours btwn Sat. and Sunday (aiming for 10 to 12 hours a week). Is this enough time?

-Thanks!

There is a group on here that are applying to Canadian Law schools if you want relevant info for schools / want advice from a Canadian perspective check out lawstudents.ca

I’m 38, a single mom of 2. Been out of school since 2000, finishing up my BA now I’m hopes to apply to law school in the next 2 years.

Anyone else in a similar position? How do you stay motivated? Any worries about juggling law school and a family? Do you think being older hurts our chances? I’ve been a paralegal for 9 years so I’m hoping that experience will help instead of hinder.

So other than BRing PTs, I’ve also started keeping an ongoing list of LR questions I got wrong and going over those when I get a chance. Do you think reviewing RCs you’ve taken before but had trouble with again is helpful at all? Or are you sort of tainted from the fact that you’re already familiar with the passage? Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks in advance!

Hi all,

Last June I scored a 142 on a practice test. After reading about the LSAT for a week I scored a 148. I took the CC on here and scored a 153 on my first practice test. It has been really slow progress since then. Last month I was consistently scoring a 165-166. I am registered for the July exam and have gone back down to a 158-162 this month.

IDK if test day being so close has caused me extra anxiety or preptests 74-77are harder. I'm thinking about postponing my test to September but I'll be moving from Sacramento to Boston on September 1. That might be a lot to deal with.

I'm thinking of taking a few days off from the LSAT...

Any general advice or ideas on how to be positive? What do you all do when you're feeling this way?

I'm going to L.A.W.S. and I want to be prepared with intelligent questions and things to say. Does anyone have any suggestions?

If you have ever learned a new language, you know that after translating a new word, phrase, or sentence, you don't just stop there. You write that word, phrase or sentence down on a flash card and you DRILL it into your brain hundreds of times until you can recall its meaning instantly without thinking.

Similarly, when you are learning how to play basketball, you don't stop practicing your free throws once you get the ball in the net. Professionals spend hours shooting and scoring hundreds of free throws so that the motion becomes perfectly ingrained in their muscle memory.

Or think about learning how to play the guitar. Any guitarist knows that just because you have played a song perfectly once does not mean you are ready to perform. You have to play the same song perfectly over and over again before you can say that you have mastered the song.

But repetition doesn't just help you master a given phrase, skill, or song. By performing an action repetitively, you strengthen the capacities and skills you need to successfully perform that action. By strengthening those capacities, you will be better equipped to approach different actions that require the same skills.

Think about the basketball player. Once he has mastered the free throw he will likely be much better at shooting three-pointers, or from any distance for that matter.

Or think about the musician: by simply mastering one song, a guitarist becomes much better at plucking, playing specific notes, and keeping tempo. So even though he only knows one song, she will be much better equipped to learn and play new songs.

So what does this mean for the LSAT?

First, it means that getting a problem right once is not enough. The reason is that doing that problem over and over again CORRECTLY is how you build the skills and capacities you need to approach different and more difficult problems. The skills and capacities I am talking about include processing, comprehending, and retaining a lot of information. They also include understanding and manipulating logic and arguments. Simply solving a lot of different problems gives you no opportunity to develop these skills.

In short, my first radical claim is that taking a PT and conducting one BR basically does nothing to improve your skills. It's because doing something once or twice just isn't really practice.

But there is more.

When studying, your focus should not be on developing the skills you need to approach the LSAT. Since you get these skills through repetition, my second radical claim is that YOU SHOULDN'T BE WASTING YOUR TIME ACTUALLY SOLVING THE PROBLEMS. When you approach a new LSAT problem (LG, LR, or RC), look at the answer and the explanation and make sure you understand the question, the stimulus, and why the answer is right. Then repetitively review the steps you need to take to correctly solve that problem. This is how you will get better at reading, solving games, or LR problems.

Finally, you should focus on practicing the same problems a lot, and not be trying countless new problems. If you can master (and by master I mean that you have almost memorized) 5 PTs, you will have done so much more to build LSAT skills than by simply taking and reviewing once 50 pts.

So yes, what I am telling you to do is print out one PT, circle all the answers before looking at the questions, read the explanation as you go through each question and answer, and then PRACTICE each problem over and over again until you get to the point that each answer feels intuitive, obvious, and incredibly easy.

That is how you study for the LSAT.

I have been telling everyone that I will be going to law school this year (including someone who is going to the same school I plan to go to as a 1L)... what can I tell people to not look stupid for waiting a year? Everyone thinks I'm starting this september. I know it doesn't matter what they think... just looking for a good excuse to not look stupid. Or a reason to maybe hold off a year, even if they think I got in.

I just find it more efficient in a lot of cases. Perhaps there is an additional premise, I'll wrrite in just a couple inferences and know the answer. So I'll often just erase the few elements I wrote in to use the "empty" game board for the proceeding questions. Why is erasing so negatively spoken of? How many of you do it anyway?

URM AAf 3.4 169 shot at Yale?

Title says it all

I’m 28

Lots of good softs

Work experience

I can’t retake

Does anyone have any cheat sheets for the Logic group 1-4 and logic in general?