Hello, I just finished my CC, took 36, 37, and improved 10 points from the last PT of another company (Smh on my poor bank account...). I am still aiming to improve much more until September...

Anyways, I've improved greatly on LG and RC, but not too much on LR. I am continually doing BR right after the timed PTs.

My study schedule says I should be taking 3-4 PTs a week... I don't think this is very realistic and effective.

I'm taking time off from literally everything, but with BR, I may be able to squeeze in 3 PTs, but for sure, 2 solid PTs.

My ultimate goal is to take the September exam, but I'll also be taking the one in July.

I believe these two are my available options:

If so, how many, and which ones to skip over?

or

If so, also, how many per week?

Also, if you have any suggestions in terms of improving LR, I would greatly appreciate it. I'm thinking that I should just go back to the CC and look for drills for those sections...

Thank you!!

Does anyone else have difficulty with the mss/inference questions on reading comp? I always feel like the answer I select is never the one best supported by the text because I don’t make the correct inferences or because the answer was somewhere else in the passage.

Is this an example of a poor comparison of laws at one time vs the present? I just can't seem to make the connection here. Thoughts?

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Hi!

I've started my 7Sage course this week and I've just finished up until learning how to BR. I guess the serious business only starts after that.

I'm registered for the October LSAT in Abu Dhabi (hence the odd date) and aiming for a 170+. I did a diagnostic from Khan Academy and got a 150.

With barely 3 months to study, do you have tips on how to best optimize my studying? Initially I thought of spending 2 months on the CC and then PT-ing in the month to follow.

Also I'll add, I realise that I am studying at an extremely slow pace, slower than the time stamps next to each topic :(

I don't know...please help!

So, anyone got suggestions how to stay sane with adhering to the course and somewhat progressing during gap year(s)?

I initially had planned on taking the September 2018 exam but life decided to show me that "adulting" is more important.

How do some of you balance working/finding work that would "beef up your resume" while studying for this monster of an exam?

I'm aiming to try to get into USC or UCLA for Fall 2019 or 2020.

I did the SA/PSA lessons and seemed to be somewhat slow and only got about 85% of all the problems in the lessons correct. I've found that it helps to just think of them as strengthening questions at first and attempt to find an assumption that will strengthen the argument, then use logic if it seems too difficult. Is this a viable method or will it come back to bite me if I don't just learn to drill out SA/PSA questions with logic (i.e. will it lessen my chances of getting more difficult SA/PSA questions correct, slow me down with these problems, etc.)?

I saw someone post a while back about how they would, given their reading speed, read RC passages twice before tackling the questions. I'm curious what others think of this strategy since I've struggled with slowing my reading pace down.

I took the September 2017 LSATs after almost a year's worth of studying with the Kaplan LSAT prep. I was devastated after scoring a 155, because I felt that the score did not reflect the amount of energy and dedication I poured into studying for the LSATs. I had to stop studying for a couple months because of the sheer disappointment and lack of confidence I felt. I decided to try 7sage after my friend recommended it. I didn't have much hope for it because I would only have 4 months of studying for the June LSATs (started studying with 7sage on Jan). During and even after the exam I didn't feel so hot but I ended up with a 166. I know many people here have scored much higher but I was so elated and happy with my score. I credit it to 7sage and the 7sage community, hope everyone who took their June LSATs are happy with their scores as well. I just wanted to say if I improved, anyone has the potential to.

I just finished the causation and phenomenon portion of the course. For the most part I understand the concepts, but I was only averaging 4/5 correct on the problem sets. Should I take the time now to review these types of questions or is it best to just continue through the course?

I was lazily scrolling through NBA instagram while procrastinating my BR and what with all of the free agency rumors and team changes going on, I noticed MANY conditional statements throughout as well as some slightly convoluted arguments/hypotheses.

Here are a few of the best ones I found that I wanted to share with you all, as proof that the LSAT invades every aspect of our lives!! Feel free to work out the logic translations if you want to. Hopefully some NBA fans (and maybe even non-fans) can find some enjoyment from this.

Starting off simple:

https://imgur.com/lV6xKH6

Regarding trading Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers:

https://imgur.com/BWkzld6

same post comments, continued

https://imgur.com/clB4D0I

Argument regarding what the Celtics should do to compete with GSW:

https://imgur.com/2uEUEzx

My favorite:

https://imgur.com/XqbkOqO

People are upset:

https://imgur.com/B1zCwvK

I'm also happy to explain/give more context to anyone who is curious about what in the world is going on.

I’m curious as to how long i.e. how many months you are studying for prior to taking the LSAT.

I've been studying since April. just took the June test, I wanted to use it as a benchmark to see how the test was/how I would do. I signed up for the July test, but after some studying I realized it might be better to wait until September to take it again. I missed the cutoff date for the refund though. Should I just take July and September or take the loss and cancel July?

With regards to Canadian Law schools should you let the schools know you are also taking the nov lsat if the deadline to apply is November 1st. Or will they be able to see that you are registered to take it . Thank you

Hi all,

Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this. I have been studying for the last 6 months and am set to take the July test in a couple weeks. Depending on the score I get, I had planned on taking the September test as well. However, I just found out a dear friend is getting married on September 8th, the exact same day..

What are everyone's thoughts on taking the November test for this coming cycle? Is it too late? I will have already taken the July test, and will have already applied to most/all of my schools by then. Really curious if people think it is worth it to take the November test for the coming cycle with a July test already on the books.

Thanks!

Hi guys.

My subscription is expiring this week, so I just thought I'd say thanks before I go. Even though I didn't post much, this website and community were instrumental to my LSAT improvement over the last year. I went from a 163 diagnostic, to 168 in September, and finally to a 172 in June. With my 3.5ish GPA, even that four point improvement at the end was a huge boost to my admissions chances. I was actually only shooting for a 170 when I signed up for 7sage.

I improved so much in LG with the foolproofing method, and the analytics tool helped me pinpoint and address my other problem areas. 7sage works! Blind review and foolproofing work! I couldn't have done it without 7sage. Keep working and you'll get your target score.

Sometimes it didn't feel like I was improving much, but it's just a slow, slow process. Looking back, I think I improved about one point per month of study, but sometimes that improvement was masked by the +-3 pt fluctuations between practice tests. I definitely had periods where I was consistently scoring below where I should have been -- for example, in April I had a string of 168s, right after I had been consistently scoring in the low-mid 170s. Don't get discouraged by that stuff -- you know you're improving!

Also: I have to rag on Powerscore before I go. The Powerscore LG Bible overcomplicates logic games. I definitely prefer the way that JY teaches them. It is not helpful to spend hours and hours learning how to organize logic games into tiny, discrete categories. Actually doing timed logic games is what will help you get to -0.

Thanks guys! Peace out.

I was originally scheduled to take the LSAT at Montclair State but got notified about a month out that I was rescheduled to a hotel in Newark (the Hilton I think) and that didn't sound appealing to me at all. I'd read too many LSAT hotel horror stories. I wrote to LSAC and they agreed to my request to change to Seton Hall (which is actually closer to my home) without issue or fee.

Proctors: My proctors were fine - a little whispery once or twice but nothing major. Felt very rote and by the book, no real issues.

Facilities: The test was held in Stafford Hall which is a new, clean building full of classrooms. There were probably about 20 people assigned to each room and everyone was pretty spaced out by a desk or two, not at all crowded. Desks were standard size, comfortable enough for booklet and answer sheet.

What kind of room: see above

How many in the room: see above

Desks: see above

Left-handed accommodation: n/a

Noise levels: My individual classroom was very quiet and the students were respectful and orderly

Parking: There was copious free parking in a parking deck very close to the test building

Time elapsed from arrival to test: This was the worst! My only major complaint was a ridiculous wait in a long line that went outside the building and wound down and around another building. I arrived at noon and waited in the already long formed line for a full 40 minutes before any one was let in the building. This sucked! It was hot and everyone was pretty edgy - it's a crappy way to lead up to the test, waiting forever outside standing in line with no updates or idea what was going on. Once inside - we quickly found our names and room assignments. Check in was smooth from that point forward.

Irregularities or mishaps: Nothing after long wait to get in.

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? Sure - since the accommodations were good other than the ridiculous wait.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Monday, June 11, 2018 1:00

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Zoom might prompt you to download something before you can join the webinar, so I’d advise you to show up a bit early on Thursday.

Hi everyone-

I am taking the July LSAT (SOS) and am going to go into it with PTs all over the map- ranging from a 164 to a 175 (averaging around a 168). Any suggestion on how I can push them over the hump in the last couple weeks? Planning on taking two a week in between now and then. I just took PT 77 which was absolutely brutal and demoralizing but I am trying to stay calm. Any tips/ tricks out there?

Yeah, that's right not a typo. Sorry for the long post, but allow me to explain. I have been working on my BA for almost 10 years, and have made many different career/life moves in that time. When I was younger I was very impulsive, not in a reckless sort of way, but I was pretty unafraid of making big, life-changing decisions pretty much on a dime.

So in 2009, I was in my second semester at my local community college when my girlfriend broke up with me and the financial crisis really began to hit home for my family. These two events made me really question what I was doing and what I was working towards in school, and I decided that I wanted to do some serious travelling before continuing with my degree. So I withdrew from 3 courses and got a restaurant job while finishing the other 2. In September of 2009, I registered for 3 courses to take while I was working, but ultimately decided to withdraw from these courses too and got two more jobs, so I could save more money. That's 6 W's so far.

I saved for this trip, and wound up going for a 16 months backpacking trip that lasted from 2010 to 2011. I visited 25 countries on 4 continents. I'm hoping I can somehow use this fact to spin the massive number of withdrawals I have from this part of my education.

While abroad, I applied for university and got in, with the aim of becoming an engineer. In 2011, I returned to school, took a bunch of math and science courses, and got into Engineering school; however, when I started the next semester, I realized I really didn't enjoy math and science all that much. So I withdrew from 2 of the 5 courses I was taking (calculaus and matrix algebra), finished the other three, and enrolled in a history and a poli sci course for the summer, with the aim of majoring in International Relations. We're at 8 W's now.

I was accepted into the IR program, but on starting my next year of study, I felt a lump in my throat. I went to my doctor, who referred me to a ENT specialist. While this lump turned out to be benign, it totally derailed my studies and changed my perspective on life. I found myself asking myself: if I had 1,2,3 years to live, what would I be doing? And the frank answer was, I wanted to be a bartender. While working at restaurants to save the money to travel, I'd developed this huge interest in cocktails, wine, spirirts, etc. Once I'd realized this, even after discovering I was healthy, I just knew I couldn't stay in school. I had to pursue this dream, as silly as it may be. I withdrew from all five of my courses, and started beating down the door of all the best bars in the city. That's 13 W's now.

I wound up working as a bartender for five years. At the end of my career, I had won numerous awards and managed bar programmes for some of the most decorated bars and restaurants in the country; however, the late nights and booze were getting old. I realized it was finally time for my to go back to school. In September 2017, I enrolled in two courses just to try to school out again. I enjoyed it but didn't know what I wanted to do still, so I didn't register for any courses for the next term.

Instead I went to woodworking school for 6 months. I liked it, but I realized my romantic notions of manual labour did not accord with the reality. And the pay was terrible. So in 2018, I came back to university AGAIN and decided, screw it, I'm just going to major in English, which I love. It's been amazing, I can't believe I didn't do it sooner. I have been taking just English courses for the past academic year and was just accepted into English Honours. Stupidly, I wasn't enjoying one of my profs teaching styles, and withdrew from one of my courses. That's W number 14. This was a totally avoidable W and, in light of everything else, I shouldn't have done it. Oh well.

Additional info: I am writing the September 2018 LSAT and am currently PTing in the mid-to-high 170s. I have a 4.0 GPA over all my courses, despite all the interruptions and course changes. I am close with many of my profs and will have several strong academic references. I have 2 more years of academic study left (since I opted for honours, which takes a few more credits) and am fully committed to my life path in a way I never was before. Also, there will be no more W's.

So what should I do? How much will this effect me? Will the things I did while out of school help to justify the W's I got when leaving school multiple times? How should I acknowledge the events described above?

Thank you if you took the time to read this wall of text.

Background:

I scored a 164 on the Feb. 2018 LSAT. This was the low end of my PTing range of 164 - 172. GPA of 3.93. Attended a higher-end state school. I work at a legal aid firm as a paralegal, before that I was an AmeriCorps member at the same firm. I have eclectic undergrad experience including winning a grant to research public defense in my state (and actually doing the research), also majoring in English Lit and concentrating on Caribbean literature, and being a very proficient (but mostly amateur) classical musician. I'm probably headed for public interest, making scholarship money important. My spouse and I are in a financially stable position, though.

Question:

My question is pretty specific; I already know I need to retake the LSAT. However, before retaking the LSAT (probably on the new November date) I'd like to craft a really good ED app and send it either to Berkeley or Northwestern due to their scholarship offerings for being accepted ED. Generally, it seems like ED and an early cycle app would increase my chances of getting in and I like both of these schools enough that I'd go to either. Any thoughts on which?

Pros of Berkeley: historically seem to weigh GPA more highly, might like an applicant with demonstrated experience, devotion to public interest, and interesting background. Once my spouse and I establish CA residency, the cost decreases, and there's the 60K scholarship split over the three years. That would probably be affordable for us.

Pros of Northwestern: personal connections including a supervisor who went there, a professor from undergrad who knows admissions counselors and professors and would provide a solid recommendation. The full-ride scholarship seems like a double-edged sword: yeah, it'd be great, but it seems unrealistic. My chances of EDing Northwestern probably depend a lot on retaking the LSAT. But maybe those personal connections would help?

Thanks in advance! I really appreciate it.

I have been PTing for several weeks after completing the Ultimate CC. However, I felt the need to upgrade to Ultimate + due to the lack of improvement. How should I proceed to study for the September LSAT? Should I redo the CC or simply finish the new Problem sets before PTing again?

Thanks!

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Hi everyone,

I studied abroad my first year of college (new program) and had an okay GPA (3.4). I went back to my home university and spent nearly a whole year sick with the worst bout of asthma-bronchitis I have ever had (I missed a ton of classes, choked on air, could not speak, intense fatigue, etc.). I still maintained an okay GPA (3.0-3.2--I can't remember) but I missed the deadline to withdraw from a science GE I was taking (Astronomy) and although my university does not consider P/F in their GPA calculation--I have heard that the LSAT does and that a Fail= an F. I have not officially submitted my transcripts to the LSAC but I'm guessing my overall GPA will end up being pretty low (3.26-ish).

Should I write an addendum? My first semester Senior Year GPA was a 3.5 and my second semester GPA was a 3.7--so there was definitely an upward trajectory...I just don't want to seem like I'm making excuses, but my sickness seriously messed up my year. Sometimes I would try to attend class and then have to excuse myself to have a 10 minute coughing fit outside the classroom...And I'm not even exaggerating.

Also, my major GPA was MUCH better than my cumulative GPA--is that something I should point out? I was an English Literature major with a minor in Forensics and Criminality and so all the science-y GE courses messed up my GPA. My overall GPA was a 3.36 and my major GPA was a 3.56 (this is before the LSAC calculates my GPA). Also, I went to a competitive university in California--do law schools take this into account?

Any advice is very appreciated.

Thank you.

Seriously, just brag about your progress-- big or small. Don't humblebrag; own it. Talk to me about your score increases, timing improvements, confidence boosts, etc. (Feel free to add in any tips!)

Hi everyone,

I've just started on the logic games section of the course, where Jy recommends printing out ten clean copies of each game. Unfortunately I've not yet found a way to do this without noting and listing the games he is using in the practice sessions and then going into all the logic games materials and picking them out one by one. Since I mostly use the mobile platform, this is time consuming and clunky to do. Does anyone have the full list of example logic games used in the course in order of when they were used?

Happy studying,

Maria